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Hi Tenerife Sun
Just to let you know I also have checked all in Emery Down.....no luck either!!!!


Regards Vera

I've checked all the 60 plus entries for Emery Down in 1911 and they weren't there.

And...


Deaths Mar 1957 (>99%)
WILTSHIRE Mary 84 New Forest 6b 372

Probate

Wiltshire Mary of Home Farm, Emery Down, Lyndhurst, Hants, widow, died 21/02/1957. Probat 20th March to John Stephen Wiltshire, chartered Surveyor. Effects £2,429.18.06

Probate for William George Wiltshire.

Wiltshire William George of Home Farm, Emery Down, Lyndhurst, Hampshire died 08/05/1955 at Ashurst Hospital, Ashurst, Hampshire. Probate granted at Winchester 22nd July to John Stephen Wiltshire, chartered surveyor. Effects £2,110.

Maybe George's death, New Forest covers Lyndhurst. So...were they in Lyndhurst in 1911 mis-spelt ot not entered on the census.


Deaths Jun 1955 (>99%)
Wiltshire William G 77 New Forest 6b 333

A possible for john's marriage


Name: WILTSHIRE, John SRegistration district: [?] New Forest County: HampshireYear of registration: 1937Quarter of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar Spouse's last name HillsVolume no: [?] 2B Page no: [?] 1609

Name: HILLS, Ivy WRegistration district: New Forest County: Hampshire Year of registration: 1937 Quarter of registration: Jan-Feb-MarSpouse's last name: Wiltshire Volume no: 2B Page no: 1609

Ivy W Wiltshire died in 1959 and John remarried

Deaths Dec 1959 (>99%)
WILTSHIRE Ivy W 50 New Forest 6b 367


Name: WILTSHIRE, John SRegistration district: [?] New Forest County: HampshireYear of registration: 1960Quarter of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep Spouse's last name BarracloughVolume no: [?] 6B Page no: [?] 891

Name: BARRACLOUGH, VeraRegistration district: New Forest County: Hampshire Year of registration: 1960 Quarter of registration: Jul-Aug-SepSpouse's last name: Wiltshire Volume no: 6B Page no: 891

Sure do! :-D

Hi Jan,
They could be anywhere....you know what these ancestors are like :-))


Regards Vera

What was the address on the birth cert, out of interest? But to be honest I think they are just missing.
What sort of porter was he? Railway? Maybe they were in Scotland!! Just kidding.
Jan

Worth looking at Vera, though I suspect this is that William 1901?? Maybe??

1901 England Census
Name: William Willshire
Age: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1872
Relation: Grandson
Mother's Name: Mary Willshire
Gender: Male
Where born: West Itchenor, Sussex, England

Civil parish: Selsey
Ecclesiastical parish: Selsey St Peter
Town: Selsey
County/Island: Sussex

Registration district: Westhampnett
Sub-registration district: Oving

William Willshire 84
Mary Willshire 49
William Willshire 29

1911

Thought I would show you this one.......his age wrong and no John just james Goddard John as son....and different occupation !!!!.


EDIT just checking 1901


WILLSHIRE, William George Head Married M 38 1873 Seaman R L Company Selsey Sussex VIEW
WILLSHIRE, Mary Wife Married10 years F 37 1874 Soudean Hants VIEW
WILLSHIRE, William Arthur Sydney Son M 9 1902 School Southampton Hants VIEW
WILLSHIRE, James Godard John Son M 8 1903 Adopted Child Southampton Hants VIEW
WILLSHIRE, Cecil Henry Grainger Son M 4 1907 Southampton Hants VIEW
WILLSHIRE, Alfy George Norman Son M 1 1910 Southampton Hants VIEW
RG number: RG14
Piece: 5954
Reference: RG14PN5954 RG78PN273A RD99 SD1 ED20 SN72
Registration District: Southampton
Sub District: Southampton Eastern
Enumeration District: 20
Parish: Southampton
Address: 20 Rockstone Lane Southampton
County: Hampshire

Although it states Millshire on the 1911 census image.....looking for the cecils births it is Wiltshire.


Regards Vera

Dea
I thought it might be her too...quite a few years older than her spouse then ?

A tree on Ancestry has them marrying in Minstead, which if correct would tie in with that.

Gwyn

I 'assume' that this is her GB ??

1901 census transcription details for: Forest Bank, Lyndhurst
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG13
Piece: 1050
Folio: 40
Page: 3
Reg. District: New Forest
Sub District: Lyndhurst
Parish: Lyndhurst
Enum. District: 3
Ecclesiastical District: St Michaels
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Forest Bank, Lyndhurst
County: Hampshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
CHAWNER, Frances Sarah Head Widow F 59 1842 Living On Own Means
Reading, Berkshire
CHAWNER, Ethel Frances Daughter Single F 35 1866
Blachingley, Surrey
CHAWNER, Winiford Marion Daughter Single F 31 1870
Blachingley, Surrey
GATES, Ada May Servant Single F 32 1869 Cook Domestic
Hordle, Hampshire
LEACH, Alice Servant Single F 32 1869 Ladies Maid Domestic
Reading, Berkshire
***PURKESS, Mary Servant Single F 28 1873 Parlourmaid Domestic
Minstead, Hampshire
CURLL, Ellen Sarah Servant Single F 28 1873 Housement Domestic
Emery Down, Hampshire

But I can't find any sign of her on 1911 either.

Dea x

Do you have any idea of when and where Mary was born or the names of her parents ?

Kitty

Were there any later children?
I couldn't see any obvious ones with that surname combination when I was looking on freeBMD for clues to possible location.

I wondered if they had been mistranscribed eg. GEORGE b.Wiltshire

Not found them so far........

Gwyn

Just tried that suggestion Jan..............no luck though.

Thanks again.xx

I wondered that too. As a last attempt, have you done a search for the address on John's birth cert?
Jan

He was a porter when his son was born too.................maybe they were travelling on that night.

Thanks for trying Jan
xx

I see he is on a lot of Ancestry trees - and nobody else seems able to locate them!
He was a porter 1901 - do you have his occupation when his son was born?
Jan

I have William George Wiltshire b 1881 Lyndhurst Hampshire
Wife Mary Purkess married in 1906 New Forest
Son John Stephen Wiltshire b 1908 New Forest

Can anyone find them in 1911 please?

I can't see them anywhere :-(