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Births Mar 1924
Edwards Oswald Morgan Doncaster 9c 1432
Births Jun 1927
Edwards Philip J Morgan Doncaster 9c 1244
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sorry for not getting back straight away,but many thanks for your research.
its lovely to know there are so many people out there willing to give there time to help
regards
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if there is no maiden name of the mother on the birth certificate why as this and how do i know i am following the right path?
regards
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Have sent PM to Michelle explaining a few things...
Fans
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Hi again Michelle
I have been having a bit of a rummage and came across this........
1901 Wales Census
about Robert J Edwards Name: Robert J Edwards
Age in 1901: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1894
Relation: Stepson
Mother's Name: Hannah J Wixey
Gender: Male
Where born: Ferndale, Glamorgan, Wales
Civil parish: Ystradyfodwg
Ecclesiastical parish: Ferndale and Tylorstown
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales
Street Address: View image
Condition as to marriage: View image
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: View image
Registration district: Pontypridd
Sub-registration district: Ystradyfodwg
ED, institution, or vessel: 62
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 141
Piece: 5019
Folio: 117
Page Number: 27
Household Members: Name Age
Frederick T Wixey 25
Hannah J Wixey 27
William D Edwards 8 (Step Son)
Robert J Edwards 7 (Step Son)
Thomas C Edwards 6 (Step Son)
Marriages Mar 1901 (>99%)
Edwards Hannah Jane Pontypridd 11a 693
Wixey Thomas Frederick Pontypridd 11a 693
Household transcription
1911 census
Person: WIXEY, Hannah Jane
Address: 3 Dolycoed Terrace Tylorstown Glam Wales
WIXEY, Thomas Frederick Head Married10 years M 32 1879 Miner Blaocklayer Underground Cheltenham Gloucester VIEW
WIXEY, Hannah Jane Wife Married F 38 1873 Merthyr Glamorgan VIEW
WIXEY, Eleanor Daughter F 9 1902 School Tylorstown Glamorgan VIEW
WIXEY, Frederick Thomas Son M 7 1904 School Tylorstown Glamorgan VIEW
WIXEY, Annie Daughter F 6 1905 School Tylorstown Glamorgan VIEW
EDWARDS, William David Stepson Single M 18 1893 Collier Hewer Ferndale Glamorgan VIEW
EDWARDS, Robert John Stepson Single M 17 1894 Collier Hewer Ulenllecha Glamorgan VIEW
EDWARDS, Thomas Charles Stepson M 15 1896 Collier Hewer Tylorstown Glamorgan VIEW
EDWARDS, William Boarder Widower M 65 1846 Surface Colliery Lab Cardiff Glamorgan VIEW
RG number: RG14
Piece: 32392
Reference: RG14PN32392 RG78PN1853B RD589 SD4 ED64 SN390
Registration District: Pontypridd
Sub District: Rhondda
Enumeration District: 64
Parish: Rhondda
Address: 3 Dolycoed Terrace Tylorstown Glam Wales
County: Glamorganshire
It's a tricky one!!.......and will need some certs to be certain!!
If the above info is your Robert John Edwards..........Did Hannah Jane actually marry a William Edwards or was William, Robert and Thomas her illegitimate children?
The Edwards/Wixey marriage cert will tell you whether or not Hannah Jane was a spinster when she married in 1901.
I think this is the birth reg of the above Robert .......
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England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Robert John Edwards Name: Robert John Edwards
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1893
Registration district: Pontypridd
Inferred County: Glamorgan
Volume: 11a
Page: 481
Robert was 64 when he died in Sept 1957 so the above birth would tie in with his death.
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If the above Hannah Jane didn't actually marry a William Edwards.........this might be her in the 1891 census.......
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1891 Wales Census
about Hannah J Edwards Name: Hannah J Edwards
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1874
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: William Edwards
Mother's Name: Mary Edwards
Gender: Female
Where born: Tredegar, Glamorgan, Wales
Civil parish: Merthyr Tydfil
Ecclesiastical parish: Pentrebach
Town: Taff and Cynon
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales
Street Address: View image
Condition as to marriage: View image
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: View image
Registration district: Merthyr Tydfil
Sub-registration district: Lower Merthyr Tydfil
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4434
Folio: 7
Page Number: 7
Household Members: Name Age
William Edwards 52
Mary Edwards 50
Sarah Edwards 22
Margaret A Edwards 19
Hannah J Edwards 17
William S Edwards 14
Agnes Alice Edwards 12
Celia Edwards 8
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I think we are on the right track Michelle.
I have just looked to see if i can find the marriage details of Thomas Charles Edwards to see if they correspond with the details of Roberts marriage regarding the Father.
A tree on Ancestry has Thomas Charles Edwards ..........
England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Thomas Charles Edwards Name: Thomas Charles Edwards
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1897
Registration district: Pontypridd
Inferred County: Glamorgan
Volume: 11a
Page: 629
Mother Hannah Jane Wixey........Father Willam Edwards.
Thomas's marriage certificate details........
1st January 1920 Bedwellty Monmouth.
Thomas Charles Edwards:......23 Bachelor....Coal Hewer.
Res at time of marriage:....63 Glendwr Steet, Abertillery
Father:.......Willam Edwards.....Coal Hewer (Deceased)
Spouse: Edith Hannah Edmunds..... 24 Spinster
Res at time of marriage:....73 Glendwr Street, Abertillery
Father: ....William Edmunds........Coal Hewer
Witnesses: Evie Frank Tovie and W Edmunds.
Died 15/02/1959
Residence: 23 Walpole Street
Place of death: Southmead
Buriel.....Avon View Cemetary 19/02/1959
England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966
about Thomas Charles Edwards Name: Thomas Charles Edwards
Probate Date: 15 Apr 1959
Death Date: 15 Feb 1959
Death Place: Bristol, England
Registry: Bristol
Of 23 Walpole Street, Eastville Bristol.........at Southmead Hospital Bristol
To Frederick Thomas Edwards.....Flight Sergent R A F
Effects: £1052 18s 8d
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Tree Name.......Edwards Family Tree
Tree Owner......Jennieedwards1956
You can check out the tree on Ancestrys sister site here...
www.mundia.com/
You will need to register.
You will not be able to contact the tree owner unless you have a subscription with Ancestry.
If you would like me to contact the tree owner on your behalf ........send me a message.
(There are some photo's too!!)
Prickles. x
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thank you for the information... all seems very confusing
but the name jenny edwards rings a bell!! i think she became a bellfield if correct
i am not a member of ancestery but i would join if i could be sure she would make contact with me....any help in contacting her for information would be welcomed.
so my next thing to do is order birth cert 11a 481
is that correct?
regards
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That would be my next move Michelle.
It will give you Robert's Mother's maiden name........
Was she an Edwards?........or did she actually marry a William Edwards?
I will PM regarding making contact with the tree owner on Ancestry.
Prickles.
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update...
today ordered robert john edwards birth cert from gro
estimated arrival 29th april
11a 481
pontypidd
hopefully this will give us the maiden name of his mum
then we know on right track
explaining all this to my dad when i am only a beginner myself is proving to be fun!!
but thats history for you.. and nothing is very much straight forward...
be in touch when the the cert arrives
thanks :-D
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sorry not been in touch with updates but lots going on and have not had much time for researching.
brilliant news though with all the help i have been given we are on the right track and the cert came confirming the mothers name of robert John.
along with maiden name as samual
and she did actually marry william edwards as stated on robert johns cert.
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