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Thanks guys, the 1861 census with her listed as niece I thought we disproved earlier...ill check that...the Mary Ann on it (Head of house) has a different age by quite a bit than the Mary Ann on the 1851 census...Ill go check the earlier posts to refresh my mind

Then it looks like him then, although it doesn't get us any where near to prooving Emily though.

Think Pat is right maybe the birth cert may give some links - although she may not have been registered. I don't think there were any penalties for not registering a birth back then, but will stand corrected.

On findmypast it says deaf and dumb since birth

Not sure if this helps, but the 3 children on the 1861 census (shown as sons) are in the Brentwood workhouse in 1871 they are recorded as orphans, and scholars:

William Wright
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Gender: Male
Where born: Heston, Middlesex, England
Civil parish: Isleworth
Ecclesiastical parish: London
Town: Isleworth
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Registration district: Brentford
Sub-registration district: Isleworth
ED, institution, or vessel: Brentford Union Workhouse
Household schedule number: 1
Piece: 1314
Folio: 130
Page Number: 7

With him:

Walter Wright 14 (deaf and dumb as on 1861 census)
George 10

So, if the William with Emily & Frederick in 1881 is the same person it would indicate the 1861 census could be correct for Emily.

It looks like Walter stayed in an institution, was on 1881 census still a scholar in a home for deaf, and I think his is on 1911 census an inmate in the workhouse (a joiner), but ancestry does not show disabilities on 1911 census for some reason.

I did not like that 1861 census because the age was out.

But I do take your point about not necessarily her mother being Mary Ann - in which case the birth certificate needs buying that NanaSue found?

Ashford is 15 miles from Canterbury.

Pat, I don't think that is her mother in 1851 - more likely to be her aunt and grandmother. The 1861 census for Mary (this time born Ashford, Kent) states Emily is her niece, not her daughter. I also think the grandchild Ellen Eldridge is on 1, not 11.

Wonder if she is the daughter of Sophia - I can't find her on any other census though.

On the 1851 census her Mother and grandmother were both born in Canterbury Kent.
Still looking for them in 1841 and 1861.

Think that christening can be ruled out by this marriage, her father a lighterman.

Emily Elizabeth Wright
Spouse Name: Daniel Nicholas Grahamson
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 18 Aug 1867
Parish: Bethnal Green St James the Great
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Father Name: John Henry Wright
Spouse Father Name: Daniel Nicholas Grahamson
Register Type: Parish Register

As has been pointed out, if she was born in August 1844 she would have been 21 at marriage so would not need consent. She also claims she is only 20. Therefore unlikely to be Emily Elizabeth, unless an extremely forgetful person.

They are both still stating married in 1911 although in different households. She is a sick nurse and possibly just helping the family with new baby just a few days old, so a temporary arrangement?

Frederick is not living with her in 1911. He is on a seperate 1911 census.
Address 5 Royal Naval Place, New Cross SE, Greenwich

There is death ref for him
Deaths Jun 1920
Age at Death: 76
CHILTON Frederick
W.Ham 4a
Page 227

(below, the Emily E)

Baptism
Day:08
Month:September
Year:1844
Forename:Emily
Othernames:Elizabeth
Surname:Wright
Fathers forenames:John
Fathers occupation:Lighterman
Mothers forenames:Mary Ann
Birth date:14/08/1844
Address:4 Bird St
Location of church:Stepney
Parish:St George In The East
Church address:Cannon Street Road
Entry No:2033
Source Ref:X024/133
Record source:Docklands Ancestors

Chris :)

There's a discrepancy on the 1881 census, Frederick is born Hounslow, but she states born Westminster, then the children as all Hounslow.

Could she have been the one giving the info, and all the other census info given by Fred?? 1911 is not helpful as they are all born London, and I guess they didn't know much about her - put her down as Mrs Chilton the first name added later and not with same pen.

Don't think those trees on ancestry can be relied on, there looks to be a lot of discrepancies, including linking to the wrong death/probate for Fred.

Added: also wonder if the William Wright (22) boarder, could be the William G Wright on the 1861 census age 3?

Do you know when she died? The only death I can see which matches her age is this one:

Deaths Dec 1919 (>99%)
Chilton Emily E 73 Greenwich 1d 1000

Which could be where the the assumption she had a second name came from.

Can't find a London baptism for her.

I'm not convinced about the Emily Elizabeth Wright baptism or birth 1844 because of the location in London. St George in the East is Stepney which is a long way from Hounslow which is on a map sort of Heathrow airport.

Also the marriage cert says she is a minor and if she was born in 1844 as the Emily E. is then she wouldn't have been a minor

I'm not convinced that is her either.

If you could find the marriage banns in the parish register it may give the name of the person giving consent.

See this is also what im not sure on...she is never referred to as Emily Elizabeth from her marriage to Frederick or upto the 1911 census...im not sure why people have put that?
This week I confirmed that some people had the wrong details on ancestry for their daughter as I ordered and received Emily and Frederick's daughters marriage certificate (She was also called Emily)

1861 census has Mary Ann Wright and Sophia Wright as sisters yet one is widowed and the other unmarried so maybe some wrong info going on

How would I find out who gave consent Mike? Not had to do that before

This would be the birth cert for the above

Name: Emily Elizabeth Wright
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1844
Registration district: St George in the East
Inferred County: London
Volume: 2
Page: 80


but is it the same Emily who married Frederick Chilton ?, that's the question