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PETER DRUMMOND OF COMRIE PERTHSHIRE 1785

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Annmaree

Annmaree Report 14 Apr 2013 10:08

I am looking for information on Peter DRUMMOND born 1785 in Comrie Perthshire, who married Isabel/Isebel/Isabella GRANT, born 1787, ON 21dEC 1805. together they had 10 children: elspeth 1806, Peter 1807, younger 1808, Mary 1809, david 1814, margaret 1816, james 1818, elizabeth 1821, William 1829 and Helen ? I would love to find out who Peter's 1785 father was and if anyone has any other information about this family. David 1814 emigrated to New Zealand in 1841 and is buried at the Riwaka, Nelson, NZ cemetry with his wife Jean Grubb. These 2 are my husbands GG Grandparents

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 14 Apr 2013 10:34

Peter Drummond, "Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950"No image available Search collection
About this collection
Name: Peter Drummond Family Tree
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 06 Oct 1785
Christening Place: COMRIE,PERTH,SCOTLAND
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: David Drummond
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Janet Drummond


Found on this free site.......

https://familysearch.org/

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 14 Apr 2013 10:38

A Sister......

Ann Drummond, "Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950"No image available Search collection
About this collection
Name: Ann Drummond Family Tree
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 27 Apr 1781
Christening Place: COMRIE,PERTH,SCOTLAND
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: David Drummond
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Jannet Drumond

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 14 Apr 2013 10:48

Siblings........

Catharine Drummond, "Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950"No image available Search collection
About this collection
Name: Catharine Drummond Family Tree
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 20 Dec 1776
Christening Place: COMRIE,PERTH,SCOTLAND
Birth Date: 16 Dec 1776
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: David Drummond
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Jannet Drummond



William Drummond, "Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950"No image available Search collection
About this collection
Name: William Drummond Family Tree
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 02 May 1779
Christening Place: COMRIE,PERTH,SCOTLAND
Birth Date: 27 Apr 1779
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: David Drummond
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Jannet Drummond



Daniel Drummond, "Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950"No image available Search collection
About this collection
Name: Daniel Drummond Family Tree
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 18 Sep 1772
Christening Place: COMRIE,PERTH,SCOTLAND
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: David Drummond
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Janet Drummond




1841 Scotland Census
about Daniel Drummond
Name: Daniel Drummond
Age: 68
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1773
Gender: Male
Where born: Perthshire, Scotland

Civil parish: Muthill
County: Perthshire
Address: Mester Cowden
Occupation: Farmer
Parish Number: 386A
Household Members: Name Age
Margret Donaldson 16
Jannet Mclaren 10
David Drummond 12
Daniel Drummond 68
Isabela Drummond 65
David Drummond 35




PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 14 Apr 2013 10:54

David Drummond, "Scotland, Marriages, 1561-1910"No image available Search collection
About this collection
Name: David Drummond
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Age:
Spouse's Name: Janet Drummond
Spouse's Birth Date:
Spouse's Birthplace:
Spouse's Age:
Event Date: 20 Sep 1771
Event Place: Comrie,Perth,Scotland

Edit: 3 trees on Ancestry has Janet's maiden name as Macgregor.

Parents.....Robert Macgregor......1716 Perth, Perthshire and Jean Philip 1720 Perth.

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 14 Apr 2013 11:06

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David Drummond, "Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950"No image available Search collection
About this collection
Name: David Drummond Family Tree
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 10 Apr 1743
Christening Place: COMRIE,PERTH,SCOTLAND
Birth Date: 04 Apr 1743
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Donald Drummond
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Jant. Cram

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 14 Apr 2013 11:43

1861 Scotland Census
about Peter Drummond
Name: Peter Drummond
Age: 72
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1789
Relationship: Brother-in-law
Gender: Male
Where born: Comrie, Perthshire
Registration number: 341
Registration district: Comrie
Civil parish: Comrie
Town: Comrie
County: Perthshire
Address: Drummond St
Occupation: Gas Manage
ED: 1
Household schedule number: 77
Line: 24
Roll: CSSCT1861_48
Household Members: Name Age
John Graham 62
Catherine Graham 65
Peter Drummond 72


PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 14 Apr 2013 11:44

1841 Scotland Census
about Catherine Drummond
Name: Catherine Drummond
Age: 65
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1776
Gender: Female
Where born: Perthshire, Scotland

Civil parish: Comrie
County: Perthshire
Address: Balnacin
Parish Number: 341
Household Members: Name Age
Duncan Drummond 30
Ann Drummond 25
Catherine Drummond 65
Catherine Drummond 20
Janes Drummond 2


ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 14 Apr 2013 16:31

Found this:

http://www.whatfear.com/html/drummond.html

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 14 Apr 2013 16:35

From this link;
http://maclarensofgreenwichpei.com/scotland.html

In the parish of Comrie immediately to the north of Muthill and also abutting onto the village of Crieff, the people tended to grow a little flax, but the emphasis there was more on wool from the sheep which they raised in the glens which did not lend themselves to cultivation. All the people in Monzie, Muthill and Comrie would have taken their goods to be sold at the markets in Crieff, it being the largest town in the area and it would be there that they learnt of Montgomery's intended scheme.



REV. WILLIAM DRUMMOND

Because of the low number of passengers names reported out of the supposedly140 possible passengers it is possible there were more MacLarens onboard and that some of them may have been neighbors of the Rev William Drummond's family at Wester Cowden. Cowden was leased to his father, Donald Drummond, preacher ofthe Gospel at Wester Cowden. William's father was Donald Drummond aliasGallich, in the Comrie OPR, the father appears under Gallich and not Drummond and on one occasion he was recorded as Duncan Gallich and not Donald. ThePresbytery minutes show that Mr William Drummond was from Cowden and we know that it was in the parish of Comrie, but it appears to be very close to the border with the parish of Muthill. So that suggests 3 parishes to concentrateon. On the Ordnance Survey Map, Sheet 57, you will find Cowden south of thevillage of Comrie and near it are the farms of Cultybroggan and Auchingarrich.

The Auchterarder Presbytery Minutes, re. Mr William Drummond, accused him of 11 misdemeanours (dating back to November 1761) on the 20 November 1763. Mostly, he appears to have been too fond of the drink and given to squabbling and there was also some confusion as to whether he or his brother, David, had fathered a child by Mary Carmichael. He denied all and maintained that it was a plot by the kirk session of Comrie and the Supervisor of Excise, Mr Forrester. The latter had evidently said openly that he was going to make sure that MrWilliam Drummond never got 'a kirk'. Mr. William Drummond appears to have ministered to folk in the vicinity of West Cowden, one place being Blairinroar which is in the parish of Muthill. McLarens who gave evidence came from various places, one place was Blairinroar. All of the witnesses depositions maintained he was innocent of the charges and refused to say anything against him,therefore nothing could be proved against him conclusively, nevertheless his license to preach was suspended. A few of the McLarens witnesses were:

Laurence McLaren in Achingarrich, a widower aged 50
John McLaren smith in Comrie aged 50 and his wife, Christian Brown
Katherine McLaren in Croftross aged 45 (possibly CroftCroft)
Ann Mclaren who became the wife of John Clarke in Green of Cultibragan

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 14 Apr 2013 16:42

And a bit more, from
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=ryk_brown&id=I9543


Then on the 6 March 1770 "Mr William Drummond Preacher of the Gospel compeared and craved that the Presbytery would grant him ordination in regard he is under Engagement to go abroad as a minister of the Gospel upon condition of his being ordained by the beginning of April next. The Presbytery agreed to grant the above request provided Mr Drummond produce satisfying attestations of his good Behaviour during the time he has resided without the Bounds of the Presbytery, and likewise an authentic Evidence of his being engaged as above represented."
He had obviously moved away from the area after October 1766, but no indication is given as to where. He then produced documents which stated that he was going to St John's Island in the West Indies. (sic)

Annmaree

Annmaree Report 15 Apr 2013 10:12

thank you all for this interesting information. i will continue my research with your wonderful help. :-) :-)