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Hi,
I am the daughter of John Rowan, born 20/101928. My father passed away 2/11/2010.
My fathers parents were James Rowan and Ann Florence Lydon. He had 2 brothers and two sisters
James deceased 9/1/68, Mary Kathleen (we knew her as Aunty Kath, deceased 6/5/85, Ann Florence (we knew her as Aunty Flo), deceased 14/6/92 and Uncle Vin.
My father told me his mother (Ann Lydon) died giving birth to Uncle Vin and his twin. Vin survived and the twin and mother passed away at birth (???)
My dads father (James) looked after the 5 children until he had an accident - fell into a vat (??accident caused death). The children were sent to an orphanage (except James). Sisters of Nazareth Orphanage - the boys in one and the girls in another. They only saw each other once a year.
My father and Uncle Vin immigrated to Australia (10pound poms).
Uncle Vin did not marry or have any children
My Dad (John) Married Particia Elaine Gibson and had 5 children
Anne Florence, Gwendolyn Lesley, Jacqueline Yvette & Gregory John
Please let me know if I can give you any further into
Cheers
Jacky

Trouble is now you need to buy the marriage cert now for Lawrence and Mary Hagan to find their fathers names.

You have been given thier details so let us know and perhaps we can get further back for you.

Mel

Hi Guys success.... I have a found another member who has confirmed that I am from the Lydon /Rowan tree yeah....we have both got as far as Mary and Lawrence Lydon.... Thank you guys for your help would love to get further then I can tackle the other side

Thanks Chris and yes patchem your right she died Florence if its the right 1 aged 34

Birth
LYDAN Florence A 1898 Warrington Warrington Cheshire WAR/166/198

(as above, on below link)

http://www.cheshirebmd.org.uk/index.php

Chris :)

It may say Florrie on the census, but it is quite likely to be Florence on the birth registration.
You stated that she was Florence when she died, and that you were looking for Florence Lydon.
Did she marry or die as Florrie?
Censuses often record people by their commonly used name, not by their registered name.

thanks patchem I think she was registered under florrie ...thats what is on the census

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Births Dec 1898
LYDAN Florence Ann Warrington 8c 260

If I have the right Florence Rowan she died when she was 34 in sept 33 , which would explain why the children were placed into care, i cant find her birth registered anyway under florence lydon which would have been 1899

I am sure there is plenty of skeletons in the closet but it makes it more interesting ;-)

Mine can't see the point either Sharon. He always says Are you digging up dead people again!

Thanks so much for your help....I have the bug now ...my husband can not see point but as we had never much info shared with us as children i would love to give my children a family tree,

Please let us know and perhaps we can go further back for you.

I was thinking last night the marriage of Lawrence could be to Mary Hagan and I tried to look her up and the only one I found was a Mary and possibly her sister down as boarders but with no parent/parents.

Will see if I can find it again and put it on here.

Have treated myself to my grandmothers parents marriage cert, hopefully this will give me more info....thanks for you help guys :-)

http://www.cheshirebmd.org.uk/
Cheshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1876 to 1880
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
LYDON Lawrence HAGAN Mary Warrington, Civil Marriage Warrington R/17/61

Its so strange Vincent died I believe in adult hood i think in Adelaide Australia yet i cant find him

Ok.........it would be this Vincent that died then.............

Births Sep 1931 (>99%)
Rowan Vincent Robinson Warrington 8c 281

Holly prickly just seen your post on age of death of Vincent. I believed he moved to Aus and died in adult hood.....

yep defo them , auntie flo married uncle james and died a year before my son was born 1992...the only link i had really to family history as nobody really spoke about thing s :-(

England & Wales, Marriage Index, 1916-2005
about Ann F Rowan
Name: Ann F Rowan
Spouse Name: Jame E Birchall
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1950
Registration district: Warrington
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume Number: 10f
Page Number: 1519



England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2006
about Ann Florence Birchall
Name: Ann Florence Birchall
Birth Date: 2 Jun 1924
Date of Registration: Jun 1992
Age at Death: 68
Registration district: Warrington
Inferred County: Cheshire, Lancashire
Volume: 35
Page: 992