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Louis Ballatti (Ballati Ballate) b 1833 Louth

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alan

alan Report 17 Apr 2013 20:35

Hi Louis is my great great grandfather and I have been looking for his ancesters for some time. I know he was private 1704 in the West Kent Militia and private 301 in the 89th regiment of foot. He died in service 20/2/1865 on the way back from Mooltan India, although I don't know where he was buried (maybe at sea). He married Sarah Jane Elwood 6/3/1856 in Castlebar Ireland and his father was given as Louis Ballati - an engraver. I have not been able to trace his parents although he may be linked to the Bellatti's of Lincoln. If anyone can help I would extremely grateful. regards AlanDevon

Catherine

Catherine Report 17 Apr 2013 21:10

What proof do you have that he was born in Louth, and would that be Louth in Ireland or Lincolnshire?

The name sounds very Swiss/Italian to me?

Catherine

Catherine Report 17 Apr 2013 21:14

According to familysearch.org his wife was Eliza Elwood and not Sarah Jane Elwood?

Louis Ballati, "Ireland, Marriages, 1619-1898"
Nom: Louis Ballati

Nom du conjoint: Eliza Elwood

Date de l'événement: 06 Mar 1856
Lieu de l'événement: Castlebar, Mayo, Ire
Nom du père: Louis Ballati
Nom de père du conjoint: Richard Elwood

Indexing Project (Batch) Nombre: M70214-3
Origine du système: Ireland-VR
Numéro de film: 101374
ID de référence: 2:3PQL3LJ

alan

alan Report 17 Apr 2013 21:14

I have a copy of his attestation papers for the 89th regiment, and it says Louth Lincoln. The family thinks it has Italian ancestry but Louis is a brick wall !

alan

alan Report 17 Apr 2013 21:15

Sorry my mistake he married Eliza Jane Elwood

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 17 Apr 2013 21:26

Burial
County Lincolnshire
Place Grantham
Church St Wulfrum
RegisterNumber 91
BurialDate 21 Jul 1829
Forename Louisa
Relationship daughter of
Rel1MaleForename Louis
Rel1FemaleForename Sarah
Rel1Surname BELLATTI
Surname BELLATTI
Age 16
Abode Grantham

(from below link, also others if relating)

http://www.freereg.org.uk/cgi/Search.pl

Chris :)

Burials 20 Jan 1860 BELLATI Louis Lincolnshire Louth Surname
Burials 13 Oct 1846 BELLATTE James Henry Lincolnshire Louth Surname
Burials 14 Dec 1849 BELLATTI James Henry Lincolnshire Louth Surname
Burials 28 May 1887 BELLATTI Ann Lincolnshire Louth Surname
Burials 22 Mar 1899 BELLATTI James Lincolnshire Louth Surname Burials * May 1887 BELLATTI Ann Lincolnshire Louth Surname
Burials * Jan 1860 BELLATTI Louis Lincolnshire Louth Surname

Marriage
County Lincolnshire
Place Grantham
Church St Wulfrum
RegisterNumber 32
MarriageDate 07 Nov 1810
GroomForename Louis
GroomSurname BALLATTI
GroomAge
GroomParish Grantham
GroomCondition Bachelor
GroomOccupation
GroomAbode
BrideForename Sarah
BrideSurname STOKES
BrideAge
BrideParish Grantham
BrideCondition Spinster
BrideOccupation
BrideAbode
GroomFatherForename
GroomFatherSurname
GroomFatherOccupation
BrideFatherForename
BrideFatherSurname
BrideFatherOccupation
WitnessOneForename Elizabeth
WitnessOneSurname CANT
WitnessTwoForename Wm.
WitnessTwoSurname MARSHALL
Notes Licence

Catherine

Catherine Report 17 Apr 2013 21:30

This looks to be his wife in 1861:-

1861 England Census about Elizabeth Ballath
Name: Elizabeth Ballath
[Elizabeth Ballati]
[Elizabeth Elwood]
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Richard Elwood
Mother's Name: Jane Elwood
Gender: Female
Where born: Ireland
Civil parish: Parr
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address:

Condition as to marriage: married

Registration district: Prescot
Sub-registration district: St Helens
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 331
Piece: 2752
Folio: 42
Page Number: 4
Household Members:
Name Age
Richard Elwood 53 - Boot maker
Jane Elwood 46
Elizabeth Ballath 22 - Boot closer
Sarah Elwood 18
Louisa J Ballash 4 --1857 born: Ireland
Richard A Ballash 2 - 1859 born: St Helens, Lancashire
..........................................

Marriages Jun 1869 (>99%)
xxxx Elwood Eliza Jane Prescott 8b 827 xxxx
xxxx James Prescott 8b 827 xxxx
McVie Edward Prescott 8b 827
PEARSON Margaret Prescott 8b 827
....................................................................

1871 she is remarried:-

1871 England Census about Eliza J Gallimore
Name: Eliza J Gallimore
[Eliza J Elwood]
Age: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: James Gallimore
Mother's Name: Jane Elwood
Gender: Female
Where born: Ireland
Civil parish: Widnes
Ecclesiastical parish: Farnworth St Luke
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Prescot
Sub-registration district: Farnworth
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Household schedule number: 149
Piece: 3857
Folio: 124
Page Number: 31
Household Members:
Name Age
James Gallimore 34
Eliza J Gallimore 29
Joseph Gallimore 10 Months
Richard A Ballato 12
Jane Elwood 55

........................................
Deaths Jun 1864 (>99%)
Elwood Richard Prescot 8b 464

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 17 Apr 2013 21:30

Name: Eliza Elwood
Event Type: Marriage
Event Date: 1856
Event Place: Castlebar, Ireland
Registration Quarter and Year: 1856
Registration District: Castlebar
Age:
Birth Year (Estimated):
Mother's Maiden Name:
Volume Number: 3
Page Number: 357
GS Film number: 101246
Digital Folder Number: 004195892
Image Number: 00079

Catherine

Catherine Report 17 Apr 2013 21:32

1881 England Census about Eliza J. Callimore
Name: Eliza J. Callimore
[Eliza J. Gallimore]
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: James Callimore
Gender: Female
Where born: Ireland
Civil parish: Widnes
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address: 10 Pool St
Condition as to marriage: Married

Registration district: Prescot
Sub-registration district: Farnworth
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3726
Folio: 23
Page Number: 39
Household Members:
Name Age
James Callimore 44
Eliza J. Callimore 40
Joseph Callimore 10
Eliza Callimore 9
Sarah J. Callimore 6
Richard Ballatti 22
Sarah Ballatti 19
Eliza J. Ballatti
William Davies 19

..............................................

1891 England Census about Elize J Gallemore
Name: Elize J Gallemore
[Elize J Gallimore]
Age: 50
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: James Gallemore
Gender: Female
Where born: Mays, Ireland
Civil parish: Widnes
Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke
Town: Widnes
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Registration district: Prescot
Sub-registration district: Farnworth
ED, institution, or vessel: 20
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3014
Folio: 78
Page Number: 27
Household Members:
Name Age
James Gallemore 52
Elize J Gallemore 50
Joseph Gallemore 20
Eliza Gallemore 19
Sarah Gallemore 16
Louisa Bellitti 3

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 17 Apr 2013 21:32

Name: Louis Ballati
Spouse's Name: Eliza Elwood
Event Date: 06 Mar 1856
Event Place: Castlebar, Mayo, Ire
Father's Name: Louis Ballati
Spouse's Father's Name: Richard Elwood
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M70214-3
System Origin: Ireland-VR
GS Film number: 101374
Reference ID: 2:3PQL3LJ

alan

alan Report 17 Apr 2013 21:34

thanks for the info. I am leaning towards Louis being related to the Bellatti's because the name is spelt in so may ways. I don't understand if he died in the Army why I cannot find any record of where he is buried or what happened to his possessions

Catherine

Catherine Report 17 Apr 2013 21:38

1901 England Census about Eliza J Gallimore
Name: Eliza J Gallimore
Age: 60
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relation: Mother-in-law
Gender: Female
Where born: Ireland
Civil parish: Prescot
Ecclesiastical parish: Prescot St Mary
Town: Prescot
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Registration district: Prescot
Sub-registration district: Prescot
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 8
Piece: 3517
Folio: 61
Page Number: 2
Household Members:
Name Age
John Fairhurst 29
Eliza Fairhurst 29
Eliza J Gallimore 60
Sarah G Gallimore 27
Louisa Ballatte 13 - 1888 Niece born: Widnes, Lancashire
John F Reid 40
............................................................

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915 about Eliza Jane Gallimore
Name: Eliza Jane Gallimore
[Eliza Jane nee Elwood formerly Ballati]
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1908
Age at Death: 65
Registration district: Prescot
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 8b
Page: 577

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 17 Apr 2013 21:38

Name: John Lloyd
Birth Date: 1850
Birthplace:
Age: 30
Spouse's Name: Louisa Jane Ballatti
Spouse's Birth Date: 1858
Spouse's Birthplace:
Spouse's Age: 22
Event Date: 26 Jan 1880
Event Place: Farnworth (Near Prescot), Lancashire, England
Father's Name: John Lloyd
Mother's Name:
Spouse's Father's Name: Lewis Ballatti
Spouse's Mother's Name:
Race:
Marital Status: Single
Previous Wife's Name:
Spouse's Race:
Spouse's Marital Status: Single
Spouse's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M01060-9
System Origin: England-EASy
GS Film number: 1655237
Reference ID: it 1, p. 103

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 17 Apr 2013 21:39

Name: Richard Arthur Ballatti
Birth Date: 1859
Birthplace:
Age: 21
Spouse's Name: Sarah Holding
Spouse's Birth Date: 1862
Spouse's Birthplace:
Spouse's Age: 18
Event Date: 20 Sep 1880
Event Place: St. John'S, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Father's Name: Lewis Ballatti
Mother's Name:
Spouse's Father's Name: William Holding
Spouse's Mother's Name:
Race:
Marital Status: Single
Previous Wife's Name:
Spouse's Race:
Spouse's Marital Status: Single
Spouse's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M01042-9
System Origin: England-EASy
GS Film number: 1656200
Reference ID: P. 153 No. 305

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 17 Apr 2013 21:39

Name: Lousia J Ballatti
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1871
Gender: Female
Age: 14
Relationship to Head of Household: Visitor
Birthplace: Ireland
Schedule Type: Household
Registration District: Prescot
Sub-District: Farnworth
Parish: Widnes
County: Lancashire
Household Gender Age Birthplace
Self Ralph Nield M 30 Sankey, Lancashire
Wife Sarah R Nield F 26 Ireland
Son James Nield M 8 St Helens, Lancashire
Son Arthur Nield M 2 Widnes, Lancashire
Son Ernest A Nield M 0 Widnes, Lancashire
Visitor Lousia J Ballatti F 14 Ireland

alan

alan Report 17 Apr 2013 21:41

Thanks Catherine - Richard A Ballash is my great grandfather Richard Arthur Ballatti and the name is incorrectly spelt on the census. Eliza Jane married James Gallimore 17/5/1869 Louis died 20/2/1865.

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 17 Apr 2013 21:42

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Name: Breanda M O'Laoghaire
Event Type: Birth
Event Date: Jan - Mar 1951
Event Place: Dublin North, Ireland
Registration Quarter and Year: Jan - Mar 1951
Registration District: Dublin North
Age:
Birth Year (Estimated):
Mother's Maiden Name: Ni Balaithe
Volume Number: 2
Page Number: 565
GS Film number: 257845
Digital Folder Number: 004202542
Image Number: 00064

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 17 Apr 2013 21:46

just found this one - just in case he's a connection

Wm Holding Ballatti, "United Kingdom, Merchant Navy Seamen Records, 1835-1941"Name: Wm Holding Ballatti
Event Type: Military Service
Event Year Range: 1918-1921
Event Place: United Kingdom
Birthplace: Lancashire
Birth Year: 1902

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 17 Apr 2013 21:47

While trawling Ancestry, I see there are several member trees mentioning Bellatti's in Como, Italy.
No sign of Louis, but maybe his family originated in that area?

I had hopes of this one for his father- maybe those ornate toilets could have counted as engraving?! - but it's not him.
http://trees.ancestry.co.uk/tree/18726466/person/1958867104/photo/3da94a04-b614-48d3-90e6-f6cd29bf5a79?src=search

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 17 Apr 2013 21:48

louis ballatti 1865

(putting above on google, seems to bring up a one name study)

Chris :)