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Adam Aitchison plus daughter's birth?

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Fetlar13

Fetlar13 Report 19 Apr 2013 11:33

Potty

Thanks, it all looks the right area and dates. However I've been sent another message which shows the Agnes Edgar I'm related to was from Ireland. It looks like Adam, as you say has moved down to Liverpool, because of the shipping, met Agnes, who along with thousands of others had moved to Liverpool from Ireland. The Ireland connection also fits in with other themes in that branch on my family, all Orange Lodge members.

Thanks for all your help

Steve

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Potty

Potty Report 19 Apr 2013 11:15

The 1841 just gives Scotland as POB.

Adam and Agnes's marriage cert will give you her father's name which would help to confirm any baptism.

I wouldn't let the Liverpool marriage worry you too much, there was a lot of trade (by sea) between South West Scotland and Liverpool at that time and Adam's occupation (Shipsmith) would account for the move there.

Potty

Potty Report 19 Apr 2013 11:08

The nearest birth I can find for Agnes is (on familysearch):

Agness Edgar
Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950

birth: 27 Dec 1812
christening: 27 Dec 1812 , LOCHMABEN, DUMFRIES, SCOTLAND
residence: 1812 Lochmaben, Dumfries, Scotland
parents:John Edgar, Agness Loggie

Fetlar13

Fetlar13 Report 18 Apr 2013 16:20

Have now found record of Agnes Aitchison's (nee Edgar) death Q1 1944, son Joseph also born Q1 1844 (died Q3 1844). I think my best guess is that Agnes died either in childbirth or shortly after?

I don't suppose that some kind soul could tell me where Agnes Edgar was born?

I have found a record of a baptism is May 1811 of a Agnes Edgar in Dumfriesshire (place of Adam's birth) although the fact that they married in Liverpool in 1840, sort of muddies the water here?

Fingers crossed :-D

Fetlar13

Fetlar13 Report 18 Apr 2013 13:45

Looks like I've fallen into the assuming trap, as regards to Janet's mother.

Learning, learning all the time!

Thanks again

Steve

Potty

Potty Report 18 Apr 2013 13:43

Janet's birth?

Births Dec 1842 (>99%)
Aitchison Jannet West Derby 20 850

Andrew

Andrew Report 18 Apr 2013 13:38

Lancs BMD

EDGAR Agnes AITCHESON Adam Liverpool, Register Office or Registrar Attended Liverpool REG_LP/7/101

Andy

Andrew

Andrew Report 18 Apr 2013 13:37

???

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Marriages Jun 1840 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

>>>>>AITCHISON ADAM Liverpool 20 318
CORLESS Joseph Liverpool 20 318
>>>>>EDGAR Agnes Liverpool 20 318
JONES Thomas Liverpool 20 318
TALBOT Thomas Liverpool 20 318
TAYLOR Mary Liverpool 20 318
WILDING Margaret Liverpool 20 318


Andy

Potty

Potty Report 18 Apr 2013 13:37

Just realised that I had posted the comment about Adam being a widower to the wrong post; it is on Adam and Jane's marriage that he is shown as a widower, not his son's!

Fetlar13

Fetlar13 Report 18 Apr 2013 13:26

Looks like I've fallen into the trap of assuming that Adam was younger than he was, he may well have been married twice maybe the Agnes (29) in the 1841 census was his first wife??? Then he's remarried to Jane Burgess.

Learning, learning all the time!

Thanks again

Steve

Andrew

Andrew Report 18 Apr 2013 13:21

1841?

1841 England Census
about Adam Atchison
Name: Adam Atchison
Age: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1814
Gender: Male
Where born: Scotland

Civil parish: Liverpool
Hundred: Liverpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: West Derby
Sub-registration district: Toxteth Park
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 568
Book: 22
Folio: 30
Page Number: 3
Household Members: Name Age
Adam Atchison 27 Ship smith
Agnes Atchison 29 (Wife written in and crossed out)
Agnes AtchisonSr 57

Andy



Potty

Potty Report 18 Apr 2013 13:20

Janet's mother's death:

Deaths Mar 1844 (>99%)
Aitchison Agnes W Derby 20 735

Potty

Potty Report 18 Apr 2013 13:17

1841 - wife has been written against the younger Agnes, and then crossed out:

1841 England Census
about Agnes Atchison Sr
Name: Agnes Atchison Sr
Age: 57
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1784
Gender: Female
Where born: Scotland

Civil parish: Liverpool
Hundred: Liverpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: West Derby
Sub-registration district: Toxteth Park
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 568
Book: 22
Folio: 30
Page Number: 3
Household Members: Name Age
Adam Atchison 27
Agnes Atchison 29
Agnes AtchisonSr 57


Fetlar13

Fetlar13 Report 18 Apr 2013 13:12

William Dunn married Janet Aitchison 13/10/1864 as far as I can find out. They had a daughter named Agnes, who appears to have been named after her Grandmother. The name Agnes continues in my family and I now think I know where it came from. Thanks again you wonderful people out there is GR land.

Fetlar13

Fetlar13 Report 18 Apr 2013 13:06

This is solid gold, Thanks everyone!

Potty

Potty Report 18 Apr 2013 13:05

Unless they were born before the marriage, John and Janet cannot be Jane's children.

Reggie

Reggie Report 18 Apr 2013 12:53

1851 census
Janet was born somewhat earlier than you thought...............


Person: AITCHESON, Adam Address: 10, Court 2 Southwell Street, Toxteth Park Extra Parochial, Liverpool

AITCHESON, Adam Head Married M 37 1814 Ship Smith
Scotland VIEW
AITCHESON, Jane Wife Married F 38 1813
Scotland VIEW
AITCHESON, John Son M 9 1842 Scholar
Tox Park, Lancashire VIEW
AITCHESON, Janet Daughter F 8 1843 Scholar
Tox Park, Lancashire VIEW
AITCHESON, Agnes Mother Widow F 68 1783
Scotland

Potty

Potty Report 18 Apr 2013 12:47

Their son's marriage:

Liverpool, England, Marriages and Banns, 1813-1921
about John Aitchison
Name: John Aitchison
Birth Year: abt 1842
Age: 23
Marriage Date: 30 Apr 1865
Parish: Toxteth St Michael
Spouse's Name: Emma Billington
Father's Name: Adam Aitchison
Spouse Father's Name: John Billington

Edit: Adam is shown as a widower; occupation shipwright

Adeline

Adeline Report 18 Apr 2013 12:46

1851:

AITCHESON, Adam Head Married M 37 1814 Ship Smith
Scotland
AITCHESON, Jane Wife Married F 38 1813
Scotland
AITCHESON, John Son M 9 1842 Scholar
Toxteth Park, Lancashire
AITCHESON, Janet Daughter F 8 1843 Scholar
Toxteth Park, Lancashire
AITCHESON, Agnes Mother Widow F 68 1783
Scotland

Potty

Potty Report 18 Apr 2013 12:46

Liverpool, England, Marriages and Banns, 1813-1921
about Adam Aitchison
Name: Adam Aitchison
Age: Full Age, both
Marriage Date: 7 Apr 1847
Parish: Toxteth Park St John the Baptist
Spouse's Name: Jane Burgess , father John, Labourer
Father's Name: John Aitchison, blacksmith
Spouse Father's Name: John Burgess