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Mabel Allen-Walker Allen

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Valerie

Valerie Report 18 Apr 2013 19:06

I recently posted a request for any information on Mabel Allen born in Hecmondwike, this time I have the CORRECT dates
Born 1891 Death 1914 she was interred at Liversedg Parish Church. Age 23.
Also any information on Walker Allen who I believe was her father born 1861.
Many thanks.
Val. :-D

EVEIE

EVEIE Report 18 Apr 2013 19:20


1911 England Census
about Mabel Allen




Name:
Mabel Allen

Age in 1911:
20

Estimated Birth Year:
abt 1891

Relation to Head:
Daughter

Gender:
Female

Birth Place:
Heckmondwike

Civil parish:
Heckmondwike

County/Island:
Yorkshire-West Riding

Country:
England

Street Address:
30 Upper George St Heckmondwike

Marital Status:
Single

Occupation:
Winder Whitchead Worsted

Registration district:
Dewsbury

Registration District Number:
503

Sub-registration district:
Liversedge

ED, institution, or vessel:
3

Piece:
27265

Household Members:


Name

Age

Rachel Allen 57
Sophia Allen 27
Lily Allen 23
Mabel Allen 20
Albert Allen 18
Herbert Allen 5


patchem

patchem Report 18 Apr 2013 19:22

What sort of information are you looking for?
Have you found her in the censuses?
Did anyone reply on the previous thread, or did the incorrect information defeat them?

Added:
Valerie was 100 years out with her information previously, which did make searching difficult.

EVEIE

EVEIE Report 18 Apr 2013 19:26


1901 England Census
about Mable Allen




Name:
Mable Allen
Age:
10
Estimated Birth Year:
abt 1891
Relation:
Daughter
Mother's Name:Rachael Allen
Gender:
Female
Where born:
Heckmondwike, Yorkshire, England
Civil parish:
Heckmondwike
Ecclesiastical parish:
St James
Town:
Heckmondwike
County/Island:
Yorkshire
Country:
England
Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status:
View image
Registration district:
Dewsbury
Sub-registration district:
Liversedge
ED, institution, or vessel:
6
Neighbors:
View others on page
Household schedule number:
236
Piece:
4261
Folio:
144
Page Number:
34
Household Members:
Name
Age
Rachael Allen 47
Sophia Allen 17
Lily Allen 13
Mable Allen 10
Albert V Allen 8
William Coates 40 >>>> boarder


Mike *

Mike * Report 18 Apr 2013 19:28







A tree on ancestry has this ....

Mabel Allen

Birth 1891 in Liversedge West Yorkshire England


parents
Walker Allen 1862 –
Rachel Sinkinson 1853

Mike *

Mike * Report 18 Apr 2013 19:31

1891

Name: Walker Allen
Age: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Rachel Allen
Gender: Male
Where born: Birstall, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Heckmondwike
Ecclesiastical parish: Heckmondwike St James
Town: Heckmondwike
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Registration district: Dewsbury
Sub-registration district: Liversedge

Walker Allen 29
Rachel Allen 37


EVEIE

EVEIE Report 18 Apr 2013 19:31


Marriages Jun 1883 (>99%)
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Allen Walker Dewsbury 9b 701

CROWTHER Rachel Dewsbury 9b 701

Mike *

Mike * Report 18 Apr 2013 19:31

Name: Walker Allen
Birth Year: abt 1862
Age: 21
Marriage or Bann Date: 27 May 1883
Parish: Birstall, St Peter
Father's Name: Thomas Allen
Spouse's Name: Rachel Crowther
Spouse's Father's Name: William Sinkinson

patchem

patchem Report 18 Apr 2013 19:32

1901 England Census
Mable Allen Age: 10 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1891
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Rachael Allen
Gender: Female
Where born: Heckmondwike, Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: Heckmondwike Ecclesiastical parish: St James
Town: Heckmondwike County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Registration district: Dewsbury
Sub-registration district: Liversedge
ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Household schedule number: 236 Piece: 4261 Folio: 144
Page Number: 34
Rachael Allen 47 married Liversedge
Sophia Allen 17
Lily Allen 13
Mable Allen 10
Albert V Allen 8
William Coates 40
Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 4261; Folio: 144; Page: 34.

Mike *

Mike * Report 18 Apr 2013 19:33

1881

Thos. Allen 49 --Hemley Moor, Yorkshire
Betsy Allen 49 Birstall, Yorkshire-
Israel Allen 21
Walker Allen 19 <<<<
Andrew Allen 15
Fergus Allen 13
Rose Ann Allen 10
Thos. Allen 8
Walter Allen 6

Mike *

Mike * Report 18 Apr 2013 19:35

1871

Thomas Allen 39
Betsey Allen 38
Alfred Allen 17
John Allen 15
Lousia Allen 13
Israel Allen 11
Walker Allen 9
Andrew Allen 5
Fergus Allen 3
Rose A Allen 2 Months

patchem

patchem Report 18 Apr 2013 19:37

1901 England Census
Walker Allen Age: 37 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864
Relation: Head Gender: Male
Where born: Birstall, Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: Heckmondwike Ecclesiastical parish: St James
Town: Heckmondwike County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England
Registration district: Dewsbury Sub-registration district: Liversedge
ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Household schedule number: 146 Piece: 4261 Folio: 137 Page Number: 20
Walker Allen 37 tinner and copper smith Married
Annie Baker 37 Servant
Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 4261; Folio: 137; Page: 20.

?
Walker Allen
Birth Date: abt 1863
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1942
Age at Death: 79
Registration district: Dewsbury
Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding
Volume: 9b
Page: 532

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 18 Apr 2013 19:51

Walker and Rachel's marriage with further info:

West Yorkshire, England, Marriages and Banns, 1813-1935

Name: Walker Allen, bachelor - a tinner
Birth Year: abt 1862
Age: 21
Marriage or Bann Date: 27 May 1883
Parish: Birstall, St Peter
Father's Name: Thomas Allen - a miner
Spouse's Name: Rachel Crowther (29) - a widow
Spouse's Father's Name: William Sinkinson (deceased) - a joiner

Witnesses: John Bolton and Hannah Walker

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 18 Apr 2013 20:07

This seems to be the probate for the Walker Allen who died 1942:

England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966
Name: Walker Allen
Probate Date: 4 Sep 1942
Death Date: 4 Aug 1942
Death Place: Yorkshire, England
Registry: Wakefield

Lived 16 Hill Top Estate, Heckmondwike. Died Staincliffe Institution, Dewsbury. Probate granted to Ernest Easter, works manager. Effects £156 16s 8d

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 18 Apr 2013 20:27

Oh dear, the following possibly explains why Walker Allen isn't with his wife on the 1901 and the 1911 census:

The Leeds Times dated 29 March 1890 carries an article about Walker Allen, tinner of Oak Street, Heckmondwike who was charged with assaulting his wife.

His conduct was stated as very unsteady and violent of late.

He had been out drinking all night and when he returned he beat his wife leaving her badly bruised. His penalty was a 40s fine plus costs or 1 month in prison.

Previous mistreatment was proven and a separation order was granted under which he had to pay 12s per week for his wife and 2 children.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 18 Apr 2013 20:34

This version of the 1891 census shows the full family:

ALLEN, Walker Head Married M 29 1862 Tinner Birstall, Yorkshire
ALLEN, Rachel Wife Married F 37 1854 Liversedge, Yorkshire
CROWTHER, Ada Daughter Single F 14 1877 Machinist Liversedge, Yorkshire
CROWTHER, Ernest Son Single M 16 1875 Tinner Liversedge, Yorkshire
CROWTHER, Franklin Son M 12 1879 Tinner Liversedge, Yorkshire
ALLEN, Sophia Daughter F 7 1884 Scholar Heckmondwike, Yorkshire
ALLEN, Lily Daughter F 3 1888 Scholar Heckmondwike, Yorkshire
ALLEN, Mabel Daughter F 0 (5M) 1891 Heckmondwike, Yorkshire

Piece: 3724 Folio: 114 Page: 13
Registration District: Dewsbury
Civil Parish: Heckmondwike
Municipal Borough: Heckmondwike

Address: Oak Street, Heckmondwike County: Yorkshire (West Riding)

Looks like they had an attempt at reconciliation and Mabel was the result of it.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 18 Apr 2013 20:41

Looks like Annie Baker was a loyal servant, she was still with him in 1911:

ALLEN, Walker Head Married M 43 1868 Tin Smith Birstall
BAKES, Annie Servant Single F 40 1871 Housekeeper Yorkshire

RG number: RG14 Piece: 27265
Reference: RG14PN27265 RG78PN1558 RD503 SD4 ED3 SN181
Registration District: Dewsbury
Sub District: Liversedge
Enumeration District: 3
Parish: Heckmondwike

Address: 9 Oak Street Heckmondwike County: Yorkshire (West riding)

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 18 Apr 2013 20:49

pms from Val acknowledge information has been seen.

Val, if you look further down there's a box that says "Add your reply" - just type your messages in there and then hit the submit button.

Valerie

Valerie Report 18 Apr 2013 21:06

Hi, I hope you have received my other responses.

Many thanks for all the information.

Val.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 18 Apr 2013 22:54

Hi Val, yes I did.

Sorry that it wasn't all good news ....