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History of Mary Jane Thom

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Kenneth

Kenneth Report 21 Apr 2013 08:52

I am searching for details of Mary Jane Thom recorded in the 1911 census as the daughter aged 40 and single, birthplace - Blackburn and a ""British Subject By Parentage"" the address is Dutton Manor, Longridge.

She is the only person in the 24 roomed manor house surrounded by 5 servants.

The manor was constructed as a shooting lodge and at this time was owned by "The Fenton Family" I think. Where are they, what is Mary Jane Thom doing there as a daughter and what happened to her. ????

My ancestors are located in Harwood / Clayton-le-Moors

I would like to hear from anyone who has any Info

Thank you Ken Thom


Reggie

Reggie Report 21 Apr 2013 09:11

Only someone connected would 'have' info

To find out about her, research is required

Start by looking on freebmd - or LancsBMD - for her birth

Try LancsOPC for a possible baptism

Find her death - obtain the cert for details of the informant

Look for her in earlier censuses.................

Try 'search all trees' for possible connections on this site

Why have you picked out this individual?

Gins

Gins Report 21 Apr 2013 09:14

Lancashire, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1911
Name: Mary Jane Thom
Birth Date: 11 May 1867
Baptism Date: 27 Apr 1868
Parish: Blackburn, Holy Trinity
Father: William Thom <<Engineer
Mother: Penelope Thom
Reference Number: Pr 3022/1/1

Was her father connected to the 1911 family in some way?

patchem

patchem Report 21 Apr 2013 09:15

Welcome to the boards, Kenneth.

Have you checked the image to know if it is definitely Thom, or could it be Thorn?

Thanks

Gins

Gins Report 21 Apr 2013 09:18

England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966
Name: Mary Jane Thom<< Spinster
Probate Date: 14 May 1926
Death Date: 28 Mar 1926
Death Place: Blackburn, Lancashire, England
Registry: Lancashire, England

Administration to: Sir William Thom KBE

patchem

patchem Report 21 Apr 2013 09:19

Age on that census incorrect, fits with baptism found?
Mary J Thom
Birth Date: abt 1868
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1926
Age at Death: 58
Registration district: Blackburn
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 8a
Page: 418

As Reggie said, where have you looked, as this was on free bmd:
Deaths Mar 1926
Thom Mary J 58 Blackburn 8e 418

Reggie

Reggie Report 21 Apr 2013 09:26

The Times - May 27, 1919
Mr. N. Dugdale and Miss Paget
A marriage has been arranged, and will shortly take place, between Mr. Norman Dugdale, of Dutton Manor, Longridge, near Preston, and Florence Eleanor (Elsie), second daughter of Colonel and Mrs. Alwyn Paget, of Berry Grove House, Liss, Hants.

Gins

Gins Report 21 Apr 2013 09:26

Her fathers second marriage


Manchester, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1930
Name: William Thom
Birth Year: abt 1843
Age: 49
Marriage Date: 1 Jun 1892
Parish: Prestwich, St Mary
Parish as it Appears: Prestwich
Father's Name: William Thom
Spouse's Name: Janet Kirk Bleackley
Spouse's Father's Name: John Turner Rhodes
Reference Number: L160/1/4/44
Item Number: 5
Archive Roll: 601

Gins

Gins Report 21 Apr 2013 09:30


England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966
Name: William Thom <<KBE
Probate Date: 14 Jun 1939
Death Date: 10 Apr 1939
Death Place: Blackburn, Lancashire, England
Registry: London, England





Probate to Dame Mercia Crossland Thom (Widow) & William Henry Thom and Kenneth Kay Walmsley £110957 10s 1d

Gins

Gins Report 21 Apr 2013 09:34

+ THOM, Sir William, K.B.E.— Cr. 1919. |

B. 18—. Sir William Thom is a Director of Messrs.
Yates & Thom Ltd., Chairman Blackburn Board of
Management, Ministry of Munitions, and a Member
of the Engineering Trades (New Industries) Com-
mittee of the Ministry of Becoustruction. — Blackburn,
Lancashire.

Susan

Susan Report 21 Apr 2013 09:40

Patchem

Just replying to the first post and that is what Ancestry came up with Sorry !.

It is the same address.

Will delete if it is incorrect.

Sue

Gins

Gins Report 21 Apr 2013 09:45

Interesting


Marriages Dec 1882 (>99%)
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Blacklock James Blackburn 8e 707
Fenton James Blackburn 8e 707 <<<<<<<<<<
Pearson Rebbeca Blackburn 8e 707
Pearson Rebecca Blackburn 8e 707
Thom Mary Jane Blackburn 8e 707 <<<<<<

Dea

Dea Report 21 Apr 2013 10:05

Unfortunately Ginns - the marriage for James Fenton in 1882 is to Rebecca Pearson...........

Mary Jane married a James Blacklock

Dea Xxx

Susan

Susan Report 21 Apr 2013 10:44

Patchem

I see what you mean now .


birthplace - Blackburn and a ""British Subject By Parentage"" the address is Dutton Manor, Longridge.

It appears Ancestry has double up on this family as another 1911 census has the same families put together.

Sue :-)

Tenerife Sun

Tenerife Sun Report 21 Apr 2013 10:47

1901 with Willam and second wife Janet.


Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation
Disability Where born Image
THOM, William Head Married M 58 1843 Mechanical Engineer
Blackburn, Lancashire VIEW
THOM, Janet F Wife Married F 58 1843
Huddersfield, Yorkshire VIEW
THOM, Mary J Daughter Single F 34 1867
Blackburn, Lancashire VIEW
THOM, Frank Son Single M 27 1874 Manager Mechanical Engineer
Blackburn, Lancashire VIEW
HUDSON, Mary Cook Single F 35 1866 Cook Domestic
Salford, Lancashire VIEW
DAVIES, Mary Servant Single F 28 1873 House Waitress
Welshpool Llanfair, Montgomeryshire VIEW
WELLS, Lily Servant Single F 23 1878 Housemaid
Mexbrough, Yorkshire VIEW Piece: 3969 Folio: 17 Page: 26 Registration District: Fylde Civil Parish: Bispham with Norbreck Municipal Borough: Address: The Knowle, Bispham With Norbreck County: Lancashire

Susan

Susan Report 21 Apr 2013 10:58



I have deleted mine also, will watch that next time.

Thats what you get when you copy and paste .

Going to make a stiff drink :-D

Sue

Tenerife Sun

Tenerife Sun Report 21 Apr 2013 11:00

Death of Mary Janes mother Penolope. I think her maiden name may have been Stowe as this was the MMN of frank born Blackburn 1874


Lancashire Death indexes for the years: 1891
Surname Forename(s) Age Sub-District Registers At Reference
THOM Penelope 48 Blackpool A Blackpool BLKA/2/29

Tenerife Sun

Tenerife Sun Report 21 Apr 2013 11:18

1881...the MMN for both Frank and Henry (+ William 1865). We're all Stowe but I can't find a marriage for William and Penelope Stowe or a birth for her which re death should be about 1843


Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation
Disability Where born Image
THOM, William Head Married M 38 1843 Mechanical Engineer
Blackburn, Lancashire VIEW
THOM, Penelope Wife Married F 38 1843
Blackburn, Lancashire VIEW
THOM, Mary J Daughter Single F 13 1868 Scholar
Blackburn, Lancashire VIEW
THOM, Henry Son Single M 12 1869 Scholar
Blackburn, Lancashire VIEW
THOM, Frank Son Single M 7 1874 Scholar
Blackburn, Lancashire VIEW Piece: 4199 Folio: 26 Page: 7 Registration District: Blackburn Civil Parish: Blackburn Municipal Borough: Address: Athol House, West Park Rd, Blackburn County: Lancashire

Dea

Dea Report 21 Apr 2013 11:25

Is this the marriage?

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1864
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
STOWE Penelope THORN William Blackburn, St John Blackburn CE133/1/327

Dea x

HeyJudeB4Beatles

HeyJudeB4Beatles Report 21 Apr 2013 11:28

I think the Wm Thom KBE is not the same William Thom who married Penelope and Janet??