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I'm trying to find my 2xgreat & 3xgreat grandfathers. A cousin (unfortunately no longer with us) did a lot of family history before the days of the Internet, and found these 2 men, both drowned, but I don't know where she found the information, or what information she found to support their deaths. I can't find them on the death indexes, as I don't know whether they would be registered.
William was baptised in Melcombe Regis, Dorset & married (15 Aug 1807) Elizabeth Bolt. They had 7 children, John was their 1st son. He apparently drowned off South Foreland, Kent. He had married Frances or Fanny Elmes on 30 Sep 1835. They had 4 children.
They all lived in the Weymouth, Dorset area.
Family rumour has it that one or both of them might have been involved in smuggling or even wrecking?
William was possibly Master of the ship 'Alliance' & John might have had something to do with a ship 'Jane', but again I have no evidence for any of this information!
I would be very, very grateful for any guidance on how I could proceed with finding out about these 2 men - Thank you in anticipation.
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Maritime BMD details
Name:BEALE, John
Date of death:16 March 1860
Age:
Place of death:
Port received from:
Port belongs to:Weymouth
Ship's name:Jane
Series:BT153 - Registers of Wages and Effects of Deceased Seamen
Box:0004
Page:110
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Would this be his death?
England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915
Name: John Case Beale
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1860
Registration district: Weymouth
Inferred County: Dorset
Volume: 5a
Page: 249
England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966
Name: John Case Beale <<<Ship owner
Probate Date: 16 Aug 1860
Death Date: 18 Jun 1860
Death Place: Dorset, England
Registry: Principal Registry
£2000.00
Late of Cobourge Place. Proved by Edwin Tildesly, iron monger of Middlesex
Source: Ancestry
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Found a newpaper article....
Sherborne and Dorset Mercury. Publication:Sherborne Mercury
Publication date:Tuesday 03 April 1860
John Beale was on the schooner Jane...going from London to Dunkirk carrying a cargo on guano when she was run into by a dutch vessel Ottalina....the jane was nearly cut in two and sank immediately....John the master a sailor called Talbot and a boy named chick perished.The mate Marshelsea and another man named Denman saved themselves by jumping onto the Ottalina.
Regards Vera
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1851 England Census
Name: John Can Beale
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Beale
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Melcombe Regis, Dorset, England
Civil parish: Melcombe Regis
County/Island: Dorset
Country: England
Registration district: Weymouth
Sub-registration district: Upway
ED, institution, or vessel: 3d
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 100
Piece: 1857
Folio: 264
Page Number: 22
Household Members: Name Age
John Can Beale 40 <<<<<<<<Ship owner
Mary Beale 30
Source: Ancestry
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1851
BEALE, Fanny Wife Married F 42 1809 Master Mariners Wife
Mel Regis, Dorset VIEW
BEALE, Elizabeth Fe Daughter F 7 1844 Scholar
Mel Regis, Dorset VIEW
BEALE, Susan E Daughter F 5 1846 Scholar
Mel Regis, Dorset VIEW
BEALE, John E Son M 2 1849
Mel Regis, Dorset VIEW
Piece: 1857
Folio: 199
Page: 18
Registration District: Weymouth
Civil Parish: Melcombe Regis
Municipal Borough: Weymouth and Melcombe Regis
Address: 3, Hartford Terrace, Melcombe Regis, Weymouth And Melcombe Regis
County: Dorsetshire
1861
Sex Age Birth Year Occupation
Disability Where born Image
BEALE, Fanny Head Widow F 51 1810 Letter Of Lodgings
Weymouth, Dorsetshire VIEW
BEALE, Susan E Daughter Unmarried F 15 1846 Scholar
Weymouth, Dorsetshire VIEW
BEALE, John O Son M 12 1849 Scholar
Weymouth, Dorsetshire VIEW
LOVING, Edith Visitor Widow F 53 1808 Dressmaker
Weymouth, Dorsetshire VIEW
Piece: 1349
Folio: 15
Page: 24
Registration District: Weymouth
Civil Parish: Weymouth
Municipal Borough: Weymouth and Melcombe Regis
Address: 40, High Street, Weymouth, Weymouth And Melcombe Regis
County: Dorsetshire
Regards Vera
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Wow, thank you all VERY much - I'll have a good look at all that information when I get back from Tescos!!! & may well come back with some queries!!
Thanks again
Sue :-D
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Just looked on FMP Ttinity House Calendars.. Petition
Elizabeth 34 widow of William Weymouth 1820
About the Trinity House CalendarsThese records are printed indexes to the Trinity House Papers, which are held by the Society of Genealogists and are a very rich source of genealogical information.
Covering the period 1787 to 1854, most of the papers are Petitions for aid, submitted by the seaman or, often, his widow. The Petitions contain a wealth of family information, about the seaman and his dependents. Other papers include Apprenticeship Indentures of seamen, and a collection of Miscellaneous Papers, consisting mainly of marriage and baptismal certificates. The papers cover families from all over the United Kingdom.
If you find an ancestor listed in the Trinity House Calendars, you can order copies of the original papers from the Society of Genealogists' online shop
Regards Vera
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