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Marmaduke Seaman - more info needed

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Michael

Michael Report 1 May 2013 13:32

That's a very good thought, perhaps so. I'm awaiting his death certificate at the moment so hopefully that will also add some more information.

Thanks again.

alviegal

alviegal Report 1 May 2013 11:23

Hi Michael,

Re ' I'm still unclear exactly where he did die and have been thrown off a bit by the information he is in a war grave.'

He is buried in Cemetery
BIXLEY (ST. WANDREGESILUS) CHURCHYARD

according to Christina's post from the CWGC.

My great uncle also had me wondering as he was on the CWGC register but was buried in his local cemetery.

He sustained injuries whilst fighting and was sent home to be with his family. he died a few months afterwards in 1915.

Perhaps Marmaduke was also injured in battle and sent home to be with his family?

Liz

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 29 Apr 2013 23:11

you are very welcome!

Michael

Michael Report 29 Apr 2013 22:49

Thanks, will do :)

You've all been a great help, thank you again.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 29 Apr 2013 22:48

His death is registered in England ........ so I would get that one

Michael

Michael Report 29 Apr 2013 22:29

Thanks everyone!

I am about to order the death certificate for Marmaduke. I was hoping to ask if I should order his Death certificate "For events registered in England and Wales" or "For overseas events which were registered with the British authorities" as I'm still unclear exactly where he did die and have been thrown off a bit by the information he is in a war grave.

Thanks! :)

alviegal

alviegal Report 29 Apr 2013 22:27

Marjorie Amy Gifford in 1911.


1911 census transcription details for: Edward Vii P H Albert Road Chatham
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National Archive Reference:

RG14PN3921 RG78PN149 RD47 SD1 ED37 SN235
Reg. District: Medway
Sub District: Rochester and Chatham
Parish: Chatham
Enum. District: 37
Address: Edward Vii P H Albert Road Chatham
County: Kent
Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
, Alexandern Head Married M 50 1861 Licensed Victualler Parish of Chatham Kent
, Ana Eliza Wife Married
28 years F 46 1865 Assisting In Business Rochester Kent
, Marjorie Amy Daughter Single F 21 1890 Assisting In Business Chatham Kent
, Alexander Alfred Son Single M 15 1896 School Chatham Kent
YADHURST, Mabel Annie Granddaughter F 6 1905 School Chatham Kent
PAYNE, Henry Richard Servant Widow F 51 1860 Potman Rochester Kent
WEST, Ethel Maud Servant Single F 22 1889 General Servant Domestic Chatham Kent
FRECH, Eliza Ann Visitor Single F 56 1855 Nurse Sick Chatham Kent

alviegal

alviegal Report 29 Apr 2013 22:07


1901 census transcription details for: 57, City Road, Norwich
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG13
Piece: 1847
Folio: 120
Page: 14
Reg. District: Norwich
Sub District: West Wymer
Parish: Norwich
Enum. District: 40
Ecclesiastical District: St Marks Lakenham
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 57, City Road, Norwich
County: Norfolk
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
SEAMAN, William Head Married M 50 1851 Mechanical Engineer
Norwich, Norfolk
SEAMAN, Catherine Wife Married F 40 1861
Trowse, Norfolk
SEAMAN, Marmaduke Son Single M 17 1884 Mechanical Engineer
Poringland, Norfolk
SEAMAN, Mabel Daughter Single F 16 1885
Poringland, Norfolk
SEAMAN, Alfred Son Single M 15 1886
Poringland, Norfolk

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 29 Apr 2013 22:06

Going to take a lot of certs to prove all this

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 29 Apr 2013 22:02

Get the information on the death registration from ancestry (given you by alviegal above)

or from the free site, www.freebmd.org.uk .......................

Deaths Mar 1941 (>99%)

Seaman George M 58 Norwich Outer 4b 317


Then go to this site ...........

http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/default.asp

you have to register, but it is free.

Follow the instructions on how to order a certificate.

When you are asked if you have the GRO registration number, say YES ...... it is the set of numbers at the end of the line (ie, 4b 317)


Only enter the information as given on the registration

Each certificate you order will cost £9.25, which included p&p


Repeat for every certificate that you want to buy




Good luck




sylvia

Christina (Lancashire)

Christina (Lancashire) Report 29 Apr 2013 22:01

Also from the CWGC.

Marmaduke's brother? Died in WW1


SEAMAN, WILLIAM

Rank:
Engine Room Artificer 1st Class
Service No:
1781/EA
Date of Death:
20/05/1916
Age:
35
Regiment/Service:
Royal Naval Reserve

H.M.S, "Honeysuckle"
Grave Reference
In South-West part.
Cemetery
BIXLEY (ST. WANDREGESILUS) CHURCHYARD
Additional Information:
Son of William and Catherine Elizabeth Seaman.

alviegal

alviegal Report 29 Apr 2013 21:59

Royal Navy Officers Medal Roll 1914-1920
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First Name(s):George Marmaduke

Last Name:SEAMAN

Rank:Artificer Engineer

Service:R.N.

Medals & Clasps earned:1914-15 Star, Victory & British War Medals

How Issued or disposed of:HMS Royal Oak.

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 29 Apr 2013 21:58

http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/default.asp

This is the site to order birth, marriage and death certs for England and Wales.

You need to register first. Cost is £9.25 per cert.

Do not use other sites as some charge as much as £30 per cert

alviegal

alviegal Report 29 Apr 2013 21:52


Name Seaman, George Marmaduke. Date of Birth: 08 February 1881. Rank: Lieutenant Commander Engineer (Retired). ...

Admiralty: Officers' Service Records (Series III). ACTING ARTIFICER ENGINEER OFFICERS WARRANTS. Name Seaman, George Marmaduke. Date of Birth: 08 February 1881. Rank: Lieutenant Commander Engineer (Retired). Date of enrolment: 08 September 1913.

Collection: Records of the Admiralty, Naval Forces, Royal Marines, Coastguard, and related bodies
Date range: 08 September 1913 - 08 September 1913
Reference:ADM 196/134/187
Subjects:Armed Forces (General), Navy
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Name Seaman, George Marmaduke. Official Number: 270668. Place of Birth: Norwich, Norfolk. Date of Birth: ...

Admiralty: Royal Navy Registers of Seamen's Services. General series to 1907. Name Seaman, George Marmaduke. Official Number: 270668. Place of Birth: Norwich, Norfolk. Date of Birth: 08 February 1881.

Collection: Records of the Admiralty, Naval Forces, Royal Marines, Coastguard, and related bodies
Date range: 01 January 1901 - 31 December 1901
Reference:ADM 188/434/270668
Subjects:Armed Forces (General), Navy


From http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk

alviegal

alviegal Report 29 Apr 2013 21:49

Death???


England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2006 about George M Seaman
Name: George M Seaman
Birth Date: abt 1883
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1941
Age at Death: 58
Registration district: Norwich Outer
Inferred County: Norfolk
Volume: 4b
Page: 317

Michael

Michael Report 29 Apr 2013 21:45

Thank you also to Alviegirl and Christina. Very interesting to see the military records.

We have not purchased his death certificate. How would we obtain it?


Thanks :)

Michael

Michael Report 29 Apr 2013 21:42

Thank you Glitter Berry and Astra :).

It's interesting to see that he used the name George, I wonder why?. My grandfather apparently never spoke much about him.

Unfortunately we have only so far been able to find a copy of his marriage record from 1904.

Thanks again.

Astra

Astra Report 29 Apr 2013 21:40

Civil Registration event: Marriage

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MarriageFinder: George M Seaman married Marjorie A Gifford
Name: SEAMAN, George M
Registration district: Medway
County: Kent
Year of registration: 1914
Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun
Spouse's last name: Gifford
Volume no: 2A
Page no: 1606

Name: GIFFORD, Marjorie A
Registration district: Medway
County: Kent
Year of registration: 1914
Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun
Spouse's last name: Seaman
Volume no: 2A
Page no: 1606

alviegal

alviegal Report 29 Apr 2013 21:40

His marriage??

Name: SEAMAN, George M
Registration district: Medway
County: Kent
Year of registration: 1914
Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun
Spouse's last name: Gifford
Volume no: 2A
Page no: 1606

Name: GIFFORD, Marjorie A
Registration district: Medway
County: Kent
Year of registration: 1914
Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun
Spouse's last name: Seaman
Volume no: 2A
Page no: 1606

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 29 Apr 2013 21:40

Have you purchased the 1941 death cert