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Hi Gill, just to clarify - the service pension records I posted are just named Albert Gee but there is no doubt that he is Rawdon Albert Gee. He was only in the army a matter of months and didn't seem to see any active service as he was discharged as unfit - perhaps it wasn't mentioned as it was such a short service?

Sorry forgot to answer the query re where Eleanor was is 1911. I have also loked on the 1911 census but don't have any idea. I know that she was in service at some time prior to 1920 when my mother was born and I seem to recall that she was a cook there. I have no idea where or how she met my grandfather.

Gill

Hi Everyone

Thank you all so much for all your hard work. Sorry I have been unable to reply earlier, but had technical problems - everything seems to be OK now. I think the most likely is Rawdon Albert Gee and it is his line I will continue to investigate. I don't believe he ever enlisted but so little was ever mentioned about him that 'who knows'. Thanks again

Gill

Possible:

British Army WWI Pension Records 1914-1920
Name: Albert Gee
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1893
Age at enlistment: 21
Birth Parish: Castle Donington
Birth County: Leicestershire
Document Year: 1914
Regimental Number: 1744
Regiment Name: Derbyshire Yeomanry
Number of images: 10

ADDED:
Seems to be the right chap. He was a butcher and parents were Charles and Sarah.

He was 5' 10" tall and chest 38½" fully expanded.

Didn't serve abroad and was discharged as medically unfit in March 1915. He suffered from Bright's disease since 1910 which caused him headaches, distortion of vision and edema of the eyelids.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bright's_disease

The Derby Mercury of Wednesday 13 April 1898 reports on a Charles Rawdon Gee being selected as a sidesman at Castle Donington Parish Church.


Definition of sidesman
noun (plural sidesmen)
British
a churchwarden’s assistant, who performs such duties as showing worshippers to their seats and taking the collection during a church service.

1901....note father was also a butcher

1901 England Census about Rawdon Albert Gee
Name: Rawdon Albert Gee
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1894
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Charles Rawdon Gee
Mother's Name: Sarah Eliza Gee
Gender: Male
Where born: Castle Donington, Leicestershire, England
Civil parish: Castle Donnington
Ecclesiastical parish: St Edward
Town: Castle Donnington
County/Island: Leicestershire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Shardlow
Sub-registration district: Castle Donington
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 79
Piece: 3204
Folio: 53
Page Number: 11
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Rawdon Gee 37
Sarah Eliza Gee 37
Rawdon Albert Gee 7 <<<<<<<<<<<<
Margaret Gertrude Gee 4
Beatrice Mary Gee 3

No. 1,772. GEE, Rawdon Albert, 78, Sydneystreet, Boston, in the county of Lincoln,
BUTCHER, trading as ALBERT GEE, at 11,
Wormgate, Boston aforesaid, and Boston-road,
Kirton, near Boston aforesaid.
Cour^-BOSTON.
Date of Filing Petition—May 11, 1926. .
No. ,of Matter—11 of 1926.
Date of Receiving Order—M'ay 11, 1926,
No. of Receiving Order—10.



Births Jun 1893 (>99%)
Gee Rawdon Albert Shardlow 7b 475

Deaths Jun 1964 (>99%)
GEE RAWDON A 70 DERBY 3A 245

Oh well maybe!

Rawdon Albert Lee appears 78 Sydney street

http://www.edinburgh-gazette.co.uk/issues/14233/pages/541/page.pdf

Rawdon Albert Gee, 78 Sydney .Street, Boston, in
the county of Lincoln, butcher, trading as Albert
Gee, at 11 Wormgate. Boston aforesaid, and'
Boston Road. Kirton, near Boston aforesaid.


Filing for Bankruptcy 1926...which might be relevant

also

http://www.london-gazette.co.uk/issues/33328/pages/7259/page.pdf

maybe not though , he married twice it seems, 1940 and 1952. in Derby

This is just a very outside possibility? as he's in Derbyshire and he's a butchers assistant ?

1911 England Census about Rawdon Albert Gee
Name: Rawdon Albert Gee
Age in 1911: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1893
Relation to Head: Assistant
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Costle Donnington, Leicestershire, England
Civil parish: Alfreton
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England
Street Address: 16 Hall Street Alfreton
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: Butcher's Assistant
Registration district: Belper
Registration District Number: 436
Sub-registration district: Alfreton
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Piece: 20989
Household Members:
Name Age
Matthew H Challoner 28
Mabel Challoner 35
Kathleen Mary Challoner 8
Henry William Challoner 1
Rawdon Albert Gee 18 <<<<<<<<<
Florence Dooley 18

PM from Gill
Hi Stuart

Unfortunately I have no idea as to his date of birth, I don't even know whether he was younger or older than Eleanor and this is what is making the search so difficult

Gill - Please post all your answers directly onto your thread so all helpers can see them

Do you know where Eleanor was in 1911?

In 1911 an Edward Cant, Railway Guard and family were at 78 Sydney Street

A lengthy article - in short, Albert was a witness to a man v car accident -

Albert Gee, manager for Mr. Richardson, butcher, Market Place, and living at 78, Sydney Street, Boston, said on Saturday, January 18th, he was in his employer's shop about 1 pm etc
http://www.mocavo.com/family-tree/Bruce-Gilchrist/Genealogy-of-Bruce-Gilchrist/Henry-Thomas-Stephenson-2

Is anyone else able to open the Mocavo link to see if it gives more info?

Stuart: It does looks like the same Albert.

I did wonder how an Albert Gee born in London would have ended up as a butcher in Lincolnshire, but it was worth a mention!

Welcome back to the boards Gill - I was looking at Eleanor to try and place her in the hopes that an Albert Gee could be found in a similar area. Unfortunately I can't find her in 1911, could you tell us where she was then at all in case it helps? Trouble is 1920 is a long way ahead from then.

Could this be the Albert found in 1901 by Adeline, now a Coachman?

1911 census transcription details for: 9 Bevington Road N Kensington

National Archive Reference:
RG14PN184 RG78PN6 RD2 SD3 ED20 SN87
Reg. District: Kensington
Sub District: Kensington North
Parish: Kensington
Enum. District: 20
Address: 9 Bevington Road N Kensington
County: London
Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
GEE, Albert Head Married M 27 1884 Coachman London Paddington
GEE, Clara Wife Married 5 years F 23 1888 Chelmsford Essex
GEE, Albert Son M 4 1907 London Paddington
GEE, Fredrick Son M 2 1909 London Kensington
GEE, Harry Son M 0 (7 MONTHS) 1911 London Kensington

Thank you everyone for your help. For everyone who suggested Eleanor as the child of Edward and Hannah, you are correct and I have traced back even further, it was only Albert Gee who I could not trace as I have so little information to start with. Thanks for all your suggestions, but unfortunately most Alberts seem to be too old. The date of birth for Eleanor is definitely correct as she was 42 when my mother was born

Gill

If that Albert Gee manager for Mr Richardson Butcher is correct,

1911 England Census about Edward Richardson
Name: Edward Richardson
Age in 1911: 52
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Boston, Lincolnshire, England
Civil parish: Boston
County/Island: Lincolnshire
Country: England
Street Address: 31 Market Place Boston
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Butcher & Farmer
Registration district: Boston
Registration District Number: 415
Sub-registration district: Boston
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Piece: 19589
Household Members:
Name Age
Edward Richardson 52
Rose Emma Richardson 50
Hilda Lucy Richardson 19
Reta Robinson 23
Sarah Nicholls 20

Given Richardson's age, Albert Gee may well have taken over the running of the shop by 1920?

Here's an Albert Gee, butcher, in 1901:

Address: 59, Malvern Road, Willesden
County: Middlesex
GEE, William Head Married M 53 1848 Cab Driver Finsbury, London
GEE, Charlotte Frances Wife Married F 53 1848 Marylebone, London
GEE, Rose Daughter Single F 25 1876 Dressmaker Paddington, London
GEE, Wm George Son Single M 19 1882 Baker's Assistant Paddington, London
>>>>>>GEE, Albert Son Single M 17 1884 Butcher Paddington, London
GEE, Charlotte Frances Daughter F 15 1886 Paddington, London
MAUD, Helena Daughter F 11 1890 Paddington, London