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ancestor john halls

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o brien

o brien Report 2 May 2013 14:08

hi all, this may be long winded but here goes. am looking for relatives of the above.,. heres what i know.
john hall born kent 1882,mum was elizabeth. he joined royaldublin fusiliers to fight in ww1 and was killedin may 1915 is buried in v111a boulogne pas de calais, aged 33. he was a sergeant in unit no.5216.
i looked upa census for 1911 in dublin and he lived in 86 francis st as a lodger, the census states he was a labourer. he was married around 1904 in dublin or uk.this is where i got lost. his wife name is jane. he had a daughter jane who was married in1930.
he resided in dublin,wasin the british army earlier, maybe whenhe was 18 or so.
would love to know who he married. and what part of kent and dublin did he live. many thanks
tomas :-(

Potty

Potty Report 2 May 2013 14:13

Do you have his daughter's birth cert or do you know when and where she was born? Her birth cert would give you her mother's maiden name and then you could look for a marriage.

Potty

Potty Report 2 May 2013 14:18

Where did you get Jane from as his wife? This is his record from the CWGC - wife Elizabeth:

HALL, JOHN JAMES
Rank:SerjeantService No:5216Date of Death:02/05/1915Age:33Regiment/Service:Royal Dublin Fusiliers 2nd Bn. Grave ReferenceVIII. A. 43.CemeteryBOULOGNE EASTERN CEMETERY
Additional Information:

Son of Elizabeth Hall, of Scarabrah, Kent; husband of Elizabeth Hall, of 8, Taylor's Lane, Thomas Court, Dublin

Potty

Potty Report 2 May 2013 14:23

This is the only birth coming up for a John James Hall b1881-1883 in Kent:

Births Jun 1882 (>99%)
Hall John James Medway 2a 573

Stuart

Stuart Report 2 May 2013 14:28

Is this your John. Looks like an Army or Royal Marine family from Places pf birth of mother and siblings
1891 census transcription details for: 4, Staith, Scarborough

Print Close
National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG12
Piece: 3965
Folio: 70
Page: 5
Reg. District: Scarborough
Sub District: Scarborough
Parish: Scarborough
Enum. District: 9
Ecclesiastical District: St Marys
City/Municipal Borough: Scarborough
Address: 4, Staith, Scarborough
County: Yorkshire (North Riding)
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
HALL, John Head Married M 42 1849 Night Watchman Newark, Nottinghamshire
HALL, Elizabeth Wife Married F 33 1858 Gosport, Hampshire
HALL, John J Son M 8 1883 Scholar Chatham, Kent
HALL, William Son M 11 1880 Scholar Gosport, Hampshire
HALL, Arthur Son M 2 1889 Ireland Newry
HALL, Minnie Daughter F 7 1884 Scholar Chatham, Kent
HALL, Alice Daughter F 0 (11M) 1891 Scarborough, Yorkshire

Choccy

Choccy Report 2 May 2013 14:29



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1891

RG number: RG12
Piece: 3965
Folio: 70
Page: 5
Reg. District: Scarborough
Sub District: Scarborough
Parish: Scarborough
Enum. District: 9
Ecclesiastical District: St Marys
City/Municipal Borough: Scarborough
Address: 4, Staith, Scarborough
County: Yorkshire (North Riding)
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
HALL, John Head Married M 42 1849 Night Watchman
Newark, Nottinghamshire
HALL, Elizabeth Wife Married F 33 1858
Gosport, Hampshire
>>>>>HALL, John J Son M 8 1883 Scholar
Chatham, Kent
HALL, William Son M 11 1880 Scholar
Gosport, Hampshire
HALL, Arthur Son M 2 1889
Ireland Newry
HALL, Minnie Daughter F 7 1884 Scholar
Chatham, Kent
HALL, Alice Daughter F 0 (11M) 1891
Scarborough, Yorkshire

Stuart

Stuart Report 2 May 2013 14:33

Computer playing up - think father in New Barracks, Alverstoke Hampshire in 1881 census, but not letting me scroll through

Stuart

Stuart Report 2 May 2013 14:49

John Hall shows 1881 in New Barracks, ALverstoke, Hampshire as an Unmarried Man a Private b Newark, Notts

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 2 May 2013 14:55

This is the one, Stuart:


1881 England Census about John Hall
Name: John Hall
Age: 34
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847
Gender: Male
Where born: Newark, Nottinghamshire, England

Civil parish: Alverstoke
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England

Street Address: "New Barracks"
Education:

Employment status:

View image
Occupation: Private

Registration district: Alverstoke
Sub-registration district: Alverstoke
ED, institution, or vessel: New Barracks
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1166
Folio: 59
Page Number: 19
Household Members:
Name Age
John Hall 34

(and many others)

Stuart

Stuart Report 2 May 2013 15:00

Thanks Argyllgran

So, if unmarried 1881 and in Alverstoke, could this be his marriage
Civil Registration event: Marriage

Name: HALL, John
Registration district: Alverstoke
County: Hampshire
Year of registration: 1881
Quarter of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Spouse's last name: Not available before 1912
Volume no: 2B
Page no: 996
MarriageFinder: John Hall married one of the following people:

MEADES, Elizabeth <<<<<<<<<<
WATERS, Grace
STRUGNELL, John
Transcriptions

A John and Grace Strugnell are on the 1891 in Alverstoke - an older couple but there also in 1881 as Widower and widow

Choccy

Choccy Report 2 May 2013 15:02



British Army Service Records 1760-1915 Transcription

Print Close First name(s): John
Last name: HALL
Calculated year of birth: 1847
Parish of birth: Newark
Town of birth: Newark
County of birth: Nottinghamshire
Age at attestation: 18 years
Attestation date: 29 April 1865
Attestation corps: 96th Foot
Attestation soldier number: 948
Discharge rank:
Discharge corps:
Discharge soldier number:
The National Archives reference: WO97 / 2956 / 89


married Elizabeth Meades at Gosport on 3rd August 1881

Stuart

Stuart Report 2 May 2013 15:09

possible birth of eldest child - 1891 census shows born Gosport - Alverstoke is the "posh" bit of Gosport these days!

Civil Registration event: Birth

Name: HALL, William George
Registration district: Alverstoke
County: Hampshire
Year of registration: 1880
Quarter of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Mother's maiden name: Not available before 1911 Q3
Volume no: 2B
Page no: 538
Transcriptions

EDIT - not this one - death registered Alverstoke RD 1880

Stuart

Stuart Report 2 May 2013 15:16

?? Elizabeth Meades 1881
1881 census transcription details for: 13, Alma Street, Alverstoke

National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG11
Piece: 1164
Folio: 78
Page: 18
Reg. District: Alverstoke
Sub District: Alverstoke
Parish: Alverstoke
Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 13, Alma Street, Alverstoke
County: Hampshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
MEADES, John Head Married M 50 1831 Brick Layers Labourer Warwick, Warwickshire
MEADES, Elizabeth A Wife Married F 52 1829 Alverstoke, Hampshire
MEADES, Elizabeth A Daughter Single F 23 1858 Alverstoke, Hampshire
MEADES, John C Son Single M 15 1866 Alverstoke, Hampshire
MEADES, William E Son Single M 13 1868 Scholar Alverstoke, Hampshire
MEADES, George J Son Single M 9 1872 ScholarAlverstoke, Hampshire
MEADES, John W Grand Son Single M 1 1880 London, Middlesex
MEADES, Edward G Son Single M 12 1869 Scholar Alverstoke, Hampshire

George_of_Westbury

George_of_Westbury Report 2 May 2013 15:19

Have you seen his service records?


British Army WWI Service Records, 1914-1920
about John James Hall
Name: John James Hall
Age at enlistment: 29
Regimental Number: 5216
Number of images: 28


Gives his NOK as his wife Elizabeth

He married a Elizabeth Terrington(looks like) 16/4/1904 Dublin Perhaps someone else can check the name, its on image 107303

but on a pension record for his wife it states 4 children, the children also listed on the image

Mary Elizabeth born 20 aug 1906

Jane 17 March 1913

His personal effects following his death were sent to his widow at
8 Taylors Lane
Francis street Dublin


Died of wounds to the buttocks and abdomen

George

Edit

If you dont have the service records, or do not subscribe to the Ancestry, i can download and send them to you.

Stuart

Stuart Report 2 May 2013 15:40


Soldiers Died in the Great War 1914-1919

Name: John James HALL

Rank: SERGT.

Initials: J J

Birthplace: Kent

Residence: Dublin

Enlisted: Dublin

Regiment, Corps etc.: Royal Dublin Fusiliers

Battalion etc.: 2nd Battalion.

4.8.14 Gravesend: 10th Bde. 4th Div. To Harrow. 22.8.14 landed at Boulogne. 15.11.16 to 48th Bde. 16th Div. 10.2.18 absorbed 10 officers and 200 men from the disbanded 8th/9th Bn. 19.4.18 amalgamated with 1st Bn. 19.4.18 reduced to cadre surplus personnel to 1st Bn. 1.6.18 to 94th Bde. 31st Div. 6.6.18 reconstituted and absorbed surplus of 7th Bn. which was reduced to cadre. 16.6.18 to L. of C. 15.7.18 to 149th Bde. 50th Div. at Martin Eglise. 11.11.18 149th Bde. 50th Div. France; near Dourlers, north of Avesnes.

Number: 5216

Date died: 2 May 1915

How died: Died of wounds

Theatre of war: France & Flanders

Supplementary Notes:

George_of_Westbury

George_of_Westbury Report 2 May 2013 15:53

His medal card

British Army WWI Medal Rolls Index Cards, 1914-1920
about John Hall
Name: John Hall
Regiment or Corps: Royal Dublin Fusiliers
Regimental Number: 5216


Awarded The British & Victory medals

George

Stuart

Stuart Report 2 May 2013 15:57

Ireland's Memorial Records 1914-1918

HALL, JOHN JAMES Reg. No 5216, Rank Sergeant, 2nd Royal Dublin fusiliers; died of wounds, France, May 2nd 1915; born Kent

UK, Commonwealth War Graves, 1914-1921

HALL, Serjt. John James, 5216 @nd Bn. Royal Dublin Fusiliers. Died of wounds 2nd MAy, 1915. Age 33. Son of Elizabeth Hall, of Scarabrah, Kent; husband of Elizabeth Hall, of 8, Taylor's Lane, Thomas Court, Dublin. VIII. A. 43

Web: International, Find a Grave Index

Name: John James Hall
Death Date: 2 May 1915
Burial Place: Departement du Pas-de-Calais, Nord-Pas-de-Calais, France
URL: http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-...




Stuart

Stuart Report 2 May 2013 16:28

The Service records show that the soldiers parents are dead and ? a mistake -the Soldier has No brothers, sisters dead.

The 1891 census shows 2 brothers as well as 2 sisters

Another address for wife in records - 5 Bow Bridge, Dublin. Her surname does look like Terrington

other children - John James 29.7.04
----- Maud 16.1.10



George_of_Westbury

George_of_Westbury Report 2 May 2013 16:51

This could be his service in the East Lancs Regiment.before ww1
Joined in 1897 left in 1908


British Army Service Records 1760-1915 Transcription
Print Close First name(s): John James
Last name: HALL
Calculated year of birth: 1883
Parish of birth: Chatham
Town of birth: Chatham
County of birth: Kent
Age at attestation: 14 years 11 months **** Note he was 4 foot nine inches on enlistment
Attestation date: 5 April 1897
Attestation corps: East Lancashire Regiment
Attestation soldier number: 5336
Discharge rank:
Discharge corps:
Discharge soldier number:
The National Archives reference: WO97 / 5021 / 131

Went to South Africa, awarded the South Africa medal

George


Again i can send you the original images, 4 pages

Potty

Potty Report 2 May 2013 17:06

This looks like the marriage - the cert will give you his father's name and occupation:

Ireland, Civil Registration Marriages Index, 1845-1958
about Elizabeth Terrington
Name: Elizabeth Terrington
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1904
Registration district: Dublin South
Volume: 2
Page Number: 596
FHL Film Number: 101260
Records on Page: Name
Harriet Emma H Reilly
Sarah Spiro
Jane Mary Dolan
Bernard Herzfield
Charles Coates Riddall
Jane Mary Dolan
John Hall
Walter Andrews
Elizabeth Terrington

You can order the cert online from this site:

www.groireland.ie/fees.htm