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Finally (I think!?) I have started to join up the dots. Although there are still a few dots missing that will finish the drawing..... It all appears to start with Catherine Pallett and her illegitimate son, William Pallett (1811) in Cadeby. He then appears with HIS wife (?) Catherine in Walsall with their children - all of whom were baptised ... Pallett Douse (or variant) Pallett appearing as a second Christian name as opposed to a double-barrelled surname. Where the Douse connection comes in I simply cannot solve... as William's illegitimate sister, Sophia Pallett, also wed, in 1830, but there is no mention of the Douse name connected with her... so, whether William married a Catherine Douse?? I cannot find any record of it... All I know (from census returns) is that she was born 1810 in Polesworth, Warwickshire. I understand that genealogy is filled with mystery and intrigue but this one is frustrating me... haha!!

1851 this could be Douce

Name: Sarah P Dance
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Will P Druce
Mother's Name: Catherine P Druce
Gender: F (Female)
Where born: Walsall, Staffordshire, England

Civil parish: Walsall Foreign
Town: Walsall
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Walsall
Sub-registration district: Walsall
ED, institution, or vessel: 1h
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 128
Piece: 2023
Folio: 304
Page Number: 34
Household Members: Name Age
Will P Druce 43 - sawyer
Catherine P Druce 43
Joseph R Druce 17
Isabella P Druce 13
Mary P Druce 15
Will P Druce 2 Mo
John Jones 30
Sarah P Dance 7

Class: HO107; Piece: 2023; Folio: 304; Page: 34; GSU roll: 87428-87429.

Hi MarieCeleste.
I do have an unaccounted for John Pallett, who would be the right age. And Mancetter is not all that far away from Cadeby.

So you have no idea if any of the names you have posted are connected to you

Name: Sarah Pallett Douse
Gender: Female
Birth Date: abt 1843
Age: 20
Father's Name: William Pallett Douse
Spouse's Name: George Broughill
Spouse's Age: 21
Spouse's Father's Name: George Broughill
Marriage Date: 15 Nov 1863
Marriage Place: Walsall, Staffordshire, England



1871
Name: Sarah Broughill
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: George Broughill
Gender: Female
Where born: Walsall, Staffordshire, England
Civil parish: Walsall
Ecclesiastical parish: St Matthew
Town: Walsall
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Registration district: Walsall
Sub-registration district: Walsall
ED, institution, or vessel: 38
Household schedule number: 56
Piece: 2965
Folio: 149
Page Number: 12
Household Members: Name Age
George Broughill 28
Sarah Broughill 26
William H Broughill 6
George Broughill 3
Emma Broughill 1

Class: RG10; Piece: 2965; Folio: 149; Page: 12; GSU roll: 836429.

Darren, if you look at my post above there was a Mary Douse had illegitimate children by John Pallet. This would fit with her children having her surname and their father's surname as a middle name.

The parish of Mancetter where the children were baptised is about 25 miles from Walsall.

... Sorry, Catherine Pallett, not Elizabeth

stacks of Palletts in Walsall

Hi Guys

Thanks for your help. I am not sure there is a connection to me but someone has contacted me and suggested that one of my ancestors, an Elizabeth Pallett, had an affair with a man named Douse. They had children but were never married. All my Palletts from this period were based in Cadeby, Leics. I have found the Douse name in Cadeby also but have not been able to make a connection. See my dilemma? :-S

This must be connected?

Warwickshire, England, Baptisms, Marriages, and Burials, 1535-1812

Name: Illegitimate John Pallet
Event Type: Baptism
Event Date: 2 Apr 1809
Parish: Mancetter
Father's Name: John Pallet
Mother's Name: Mary Douse
..............................................................................................................

and:

Warwickshire, England, Baptisms, Marriages, and Burials, 1535-1812

Name: Illegitimate James Pallet
Event Type: Baptism
Event Date: 20 Feb 1807
Parish: Mancetter
Father's Name: John Pallet
Mother's Name: Mary Douse

Is this a relation?

England & Wales Marriages, 1538-1940

Name: Edward Pallett Douce
Gender: Male
Father's Name: John Pallett
Spouse's Name: Susan Meredith
Spouse's Father's Name: Joseph Meredith
Marriage Date: 8 Oct 1855
Marriage Place: Willenhall, Staffordshire, England

are we thinking that a Pallett married a Douse'Douce/Dawes???

Darren which site are you using for your census searches ?

Name: Willm Pallett Douce
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1871
Gender: Male
Age: 20
Relationship to Head of Household: Son
Birthplace: Walsall, Staffordshire
Schedule Type: Household
Registration District: Walsall
Sub-District: Walsall
Parish: Walsall
County: Staffordshire
Household Gender Age Birthplace
Head Catharine Pallett Douce F 64 Polsmouth, Warwickshire
Son Willm Pallett Douce M 20 Walsall, Staffordshire
Boarder Henry Heath M 49 Shrewsbury, Shropshire

Name: Joseph Douse
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Douse
Gender: Male
Where born: Hunegton, Warwickshire, England
Civil parish: Birmingham
Ecclesiastical parish: Laydwood St John
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

View image
Registration district: Birmingham
Sub-registration district: Lady Wood
ED, institution, or vessel: 29
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 152
Piece: 2132
Folio: 121
Page Number: 28
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Douse 30
Mary Douse 30

edit maybe not

Thanks Ann

1851 poss mistranscription

Name: George Pallotto Dauel
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Edward Pallotto Dome
Mother's Name: Emma Douse
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Walsall, Staffordshire, England

Civil parish: Rushall
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Walsall
Sub-registration district: Aldridge
ED, institution, or vessel: 2a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 217
Piece: 2023
Folio: 726
Page Number: 54
Household Members: Name Age
Edward Pallotto Dome 27
Emma Douse 28
George Pallotto Dauel 4

Class: HO107; Piece: 2023; Folio: 726; Page: 54; GSU roll: 87428-87429.

Will do a name correction

Edward is a blacksmith

I',m seeing lots of Dawes rather than Douse

Name: Elizabeth Pallet Douce
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 26 Jul 1854
Christening Place: Wallsall, Stafford, England
Mother's Name: Elizabeth Pallet Douce
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C06065-2
System Origin: England-EASy
GS Film number: 1526196
Reference ID: item 10 p 233

different spelling here

George Pallot Douce, "England and Wales Census, 1851"

Name: George Pallot Douce
Age: 4
Gender: Male
Birthplace: Walsall, Staffordshire
Relationship to Head of Household: Son
Schedule Type: Household

Have you tried to find any of the girls after their marriages - 1857,1863 and 1877

Do you have any certs at all ?

Which person are you directly related to ?