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Catholic records in Bury Lancashire

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Reggie Report 28 May 2013 13:57


Jemma Report 7 May 2013 21:09

Thanks for email.Have sent for info.


Reggie Report 4 May 2013 22:48


Please remember that site guidelines stipulate one post per topic

Thank you............


mgnv Report 4 May 2013 20:33

Well, it works for me - either the message is right, and it's not installed properly on your PC, or there's some sort of compatibility problem.

Anyways, I've sent by pm the email addy and subject header that pops up.


Jemma Report 4 May 2013 18:42

Have just clicked on the link to email the person but it comes back with could not perform this the default mail client is not properly installed


Jemma Report 4 May 2013 18:35

Thank you I will try that


mgnv Report 4 May 2013 16:48 has a "Look Ups" link in left margin - click on it, and at foot of page, there's a contact link to an OPC guy who'll do RC look ups for 3 RC churches, incl St Joseph & St Marie, the 2 RC churches in Bury itself - I don't know how may RC churches there are in the rego district, nor where their records are kept, but this OPC would be one guy to ask.

Never put off until tomorrow what you can put off until the day after tomorrow.


Jemma Report 4 May 2013 15:01

your correct,must get the certificates.This is doing my head in !!!!!lol


Alemap Report 4 May 2013 14:52

I'm with Eringobragh1916 on this. MC a must.


Eringobragh1916 Report 4 May 2013 14:16

Jemma.....Did you not manage to get MC for Michael and Mary....?


Jemma Report 4 May 2013 12:54

Looks like it couldbe incorrect.James Moran in my tree had Matthew Moran 1872,Michael 1874 and Mary 1873 .By 1881 the 3 children were in the Worsley Industrial school.stating father James Moran and mother dead.They were let out between 1885 and 1888,Matthew to John Seddon in Blackrod,Mary into service with a Mr Kershaw and Michael to his aunt Mary Coleman.There is a possible James Moran in Prescot in 1881 age 31 widower boarder farm labourer born Dublin.
Confusing ......
But will look up the census you sent
Thanks any more help would be appreciated


Alemap Report 4 May 2013 12:46

This gives:
DOUGHERTY, Bernard Head Married M 65 1816 Tailor Ireland
DOUGHERTY, Mary Ann Wife Married F 50 1831 Ireland
DOUGHERTY, Hugh Son Single M 34 1847 Cotton Carder At Factory Ireland
MORAN, Mary Daughter Married F 30 1851 Cotton Weaver Bury, Lancashire
DOUGHERTY, Jane Daughter Single F 24 1857 Cotton Weaver Bury, Lancashire
DOUGHERTY, Margaret Daughter Single F 21 1860 Cotton Weaver Bury, Lancashire
MORAN, John Grand Son Single M 4 1877 Scholar Bury, Lancashire
MORAN, Margaret Grand Daughter Single F 6 1875 Scholar Bury, Lancashire
MORAN, Jane Grand Daughter Single F 2 1879 Bury, Lancashire

Piece: 3861 Folio: 55 Page: 11 Registration District: Bury Civil Parish: Bury Municipal Borough:
Address: 15, Shepherd St, Bury County: Lancashire


Alemap Report 4 May 2013 12:43

Michael Coleman c1840 - 1870
m. 1862 Mary Moran ? -?
Catherine 1863 - ?
Thomas 1864 - ?
John 1866 - ?
James 1868 - ?

James Moran ? - ?
m. 1872 Mary Doherty 1851 - ? Mother Summers
Mary Ann 1873 - 1873 Mother's name spelt Doharty }Added
Margaret 1875 - ? Ditto } Added
John 1877 - ?
Jane 1879 - ?
James 1880 - ?


Jemma Report 4 May 2013 12:17

Will check this Pam thanks.


Alemap Report 4 May 2013 12:14

A possible for Mary Doherty.

Name: Mary Doherty
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1871
Gender: Female
Age: 20
Relationship to Head of Household: Daughter
Birthplace: Bury, Lancashire
Schedule Type: Household
Registration District: Bury
Sub-District: Bury, South
Parish: Bury
County: Lancashire
Household Gender Age Birthplace
Head Bernard Doherty M 54 Ireland
Wife Mary A Doherty F 48 Ireland
Son Hugh Doherty M 24 Ireland
Daughter Mary Doherty F 20 Bury, Lancashire <<<<<<<<<
Daughter Jane Doherty F 7 Bury, Lancashire
Daughter Margaret Doherty F 11 Bury, Lancashire
Boarder Rosanna Rotchford F 20 Bury, Lancashire
Boarder John Rotchford M 4 Bury, Lancashire
Lodger John Seddon M 22 Bury, Lancashire
Mother-In-Law Catherine Sommers F 88 Ireland


Jemma Report 4 May 2013 12:02

Yes have tried the census's,by 1879 James Morans children were in the workhouse,father James Moran alive ,mother dead.Michael Coleman died in Bury in 1870 ,his wife Mary got one of the children out of the workhouse in 1888.Without James Morans year of birth I find myself guessing in the search forhim in 1881.


Reggie Report 4 May 2013 11:55

This narrows the time-scale for the searches

Marriages Mar 1862 (>99%)
Coleman Michael Bury 8c 479
Moran Mary Bury 8c 479


Marriages Dec 1872 (>99%)
Doherty Mary Bury 8c 669
Moran James Bury 8c 669


Reggie Report 4 May 2013 11:53

They could also be non-conformist, or indeed, register office marriages

Lancs records office is in Preston

Have you tried to trace the Morans in early censuses? And cross-referred with birth info on censuses after the marriages?


Jemma Report 4 May 2013 11:20

I'm looking for 2 marriages in Bury and suspect that they are Catholic marriages.The marriages are on the Lancashire BMD .One is for Michael Coleman to Mary Moran in 1862 and the other is James Moran to Mary Doherty in 1872.I think that the 2 Morans are brother and sister but dont want to purchase certificates in case I am incorrect.Is there anywhere online that there are copies of the Catholic marriages?I have tried various Record offices but have no joy with them.Is there anyone who does lookups for Bury?