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GRO info for birth cert

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Reggie Report 5 May 2013 08:54


from the OP.......

t but dont now have access to these records so i cant get her info for the GRO,

No mention of 'confusion'......ONLY lack of ACCESS

Hence my perfectly sensible question.


CupCakes Report 5 May 2013 07:08

A bit harsh - the possibility of miss spellings/variations and names written by officials as they sound because the owner coudn't read or write it not very often considered by a lot of people.
Then the concept of people not being able to read or write is also not thought about until it is explained.


Margee Report 5 May 2013 00:45

But really, PH, the poster knew the year 1840-41 and the registration district Tonbridge. there were only 3 Baileys, one of them being Hemsley. Had to be her.


PricklyHolly Report 4 May 2013 23:36

With the variation of the name Reggie............the confusion is quite obvious wouldn't you say?


Reggie Report 4 May 2013 21:50

Why do you say you can't access the records?

freebmd is FREE to everyone

Where have you been looking?


Justblu Report 4 May 2013 21:12

Thanks all

Looks like you are right never thought about variations of names

Regards Justblu


Margee Report 4 May 2013 21:01

1841 England Census
about John Bailey Name: John Bailey
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811
Gender: Male
Where born: Kent, England

Civil parish: Hadlow
Hundred: Tonbridge Lowey
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Registration district: Tonbridge
Sub-registration district: Tonbridge
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 459
Book: 1
Folio: 29
Page Number: 11
Household Members: Name Age
John Bailey 30
Mary Bailey 20
Soloman Bailey 3
John Bailey 2
Hensley Bailey 3 Mo


Vera Report 4 May 2013 20:45

Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation
Disability Where born Image
ARCHER, John Head Married M 24 1837 Brush Maker
Buckingham, Norfolk VIEW
ARCHER, Ensley Wife Married F 20 1841
Hadlow, Kent VIEW
ARCHER, Mary Daughter F 0 (10M) 1861
Wouldham, Kent VIEW
Piece: 484
Folio: 84
Page: 21
Registration District: Malling
Civil Parish: Birling
Municipal Borough:
Address: Hamhill, Horne Street, Birling
County: Kent

Regards Vera


Vera Report 4 May 2013 20:37


All these different spellings

Marriages Jun 1860 (>99%)

Archer John Malling 2a 575
Bailey Ensley Malling 2a 575
Bailey Eusley Malling 2a 575
Gould Ann Eliza Malling 2a 575
NORTON Selby Malling 2a 575

Regards Vera


Flip Report 4 May 2013 20:34

The birth posted by Gins is the closest to the name you've given. Not sure why you can't access the records for GRO index as they are available free from here:

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 4 May 2013 20:32

Did she marry?
A marriage certificate should show her father's name and occupation.
This might help you decide whether or not you have the correct person at birth.



Gins Report 4 May 2013 20:29

Her first name differs in spellings on the censuses and BMD's

Not unusual, lots of people could not read or write

1851 England Census
Name: Hensley Bailey
[Ensley Bailey]
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John Bailey
Mother's Name: Mary Bailey
Gender: F (Female)
Where born: Hadlow, Kent, England

Civil parish: Hadlow
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Registration district: Tunbridge
Sub-registration district: Tunbridge
ED, institution, or vessel: 2b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 37
Piece: 1615
Folio: 255
Page Number: 9
Household Members: Name Age
John Bailey 42
Mary Bailey 32
John Bailey 13
Hensley Bailey 10
Richard Bailey 8
Philip Bailey 5
Sarah Bailey 3
Mary Bailey 1


Justblu Report 4 May 2013 20:26

Thank you Gins but not sure if they are the right ones as name is not the same

Regards justblu


Gins Report 4 May 2013 20:21

These are the details that you need to order the certificate

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
Name: Hemsley Bailey
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1841
Registration district: Tonbridge
Inferred County: Kent
Volume: 5
Page: 474

This looks to be her baptism

England & Wales Christening Records, 1530-1906
Name: Annesley Bailey
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 14 Mar 1841
Christening Place: Hadlow, Kent, England
Father's Name: John Bailey
Mother's Name: Mary

You can search BMDs here


Justblu Report 4 May 2013 20:14

I want to buy a birth cert for a Ensley Bailey born 1840/41 at Hadlow near Tonbridge kent but dont now have access to these records so i cant get her info for the GRO, is there please any chance someone could look these up for me

Regards Justblu