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LIND FAMILY FROM DENMARK, SWEDEN, TO NEW YORK

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Susanne

Susanne Report 5 May 2013 05:42

TRYING TO FIND ANYTHING ON ABOVE FAMILY IT WAS A VERY BROKEN FAMILY THREE SONS FOSTERED OUT WE KNOW CARL LIND ENDED UP IN SWEDEN. WE FOUND ALL THREE SONS ON ELLIS ISLAND WEBSITE TWO FRO LIVERPOOL TO NEW YORK AND OTHER FROM SOUTH AMERCIA. HENNING LIND STAYED IN BROOKLYN. RAGNER WE THINK ENDED UP IN CALIFORNIA MARRIED A TINA? AND CARL ENGER LIND WE KNOW HE ENDED IN CALIFORNIA WE KNOW ABOUT HIM. WE SEEM TO THINK THE MOTHER WAS CHRISTINNA MATHEWSON OR SIMILIAR TO THAT SPELLING CAME FROM SWEDEN. I FOUND A SOCIAL SECURITY INDEX FOR HENNING BUT NOT FOR RANGNOR ALL SEEM TO BE BORN EARLY 1900. ANYBODY SUGGEST TRACING ANYMORE ON THIS FAMILY OR HOW TO.THANKS SUE

patchem

patchem Report 5 May 2013 07:17

What is your direct connection to this family so we know where to start from?
Is the spelling Ragner or Rangnor?
Have you looked to see if anyone on here or on Mundia have anyone of the family in their trees?

alviegal

alviegal Report 5 May 2013 07:24


1940 United States Federal Census about Henning Lind
Name: Henning Lind
Age: 44
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1896
Gender: Male
Race: White
Birthplace: Sweden
Marital Status: Married
Relation to Head of House: Head
Home in 1940: Chicago, Cook, Illinois
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Street: Concord Place
House Number: 2130
Farm: No
Inferred Residence in 1935: Chicago, Cook, Illinois
Residence in 1935: Same Place
Citizenship: Having first papers
Sheet Number: 3A
Number of Household in Order of Visitation: 70
Occupation: Tool And Die Maker
House Owned or Rented: Rented
Value of Home or Monthly Rental if Rented: 27.50
Attended School or College: No
Highest Grade Completed: Elementary school, 8th grade
Hours Worked Week Prior to Census: 44
Class of Worker: Wage or salary worker in private work
Weeks Worked in 1939: 42
Income: 1800
Income Other Sources: No
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Henning Lind 44
Josephine Lind 41 Birthplace: Poland
Henning Lind 12
Elsie Lind 10
John Huler 22 Stepson, Indiana
Margaret Huler 21 Stepdaughter, Indiana



1930 United States Federal Census about Henning Lind
Name: Henning Lind
Gender: Male
Birth Year: abt 1896
Birthplace: Sweden
Race: White
Home in 1930: Chicago, Cook, Illinois
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Marital Status: Married
Immigration Year: 1905
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Josephine Lind
Father's Birthplace: Sweden
Mother's Birthplace: Sweden
Occupation:

Education:

Military service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents' birthplace:

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Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Henning Lind 34
Josephine Lind 31
John Lind 13
Margaruite Lind 11
Henning Lind 3
Elsie Lind 0
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Helen Marciniak 21 Relation to Head of House: Boarder
Father's Birthplace: Poland
Mother's Birthplace: Poland



There are these two births, none with a mother called Christina though.

Child's Given Name: Henning William Carl
Birth Date: 3 dec 1896
Birth Place: Sundsvall, Västernorrland
Father: Carl Fritiof Lind
Father Birth Date: 28 nov 1853
Mother: Anna Amalia Olsson
Mother Birth Date: 15 feb 1865
Mother Age: 31
GID Number: 100022.104.14200
Roll/Fiche Number: SC-1804
Volume: HIAA:1175


or



Sverige, namnindexerade födelseuppgifter, 1880-1920 Sweden, Indexed Birth Records, 1880-1920 about Henning Valdemar
Child's Given Name: Henning Valdemar
Birth Date: 1 jul 1896
Birth Place: Örebro, Örebro
Father: Gustaf Lind
Father Birth Date: 16 jan 1848
Mother: Josefina Gustafva Lindqvist
Mother Birth Date: 15 nov 1853
Mother Age: 43
GID Number: 100018.9.24500
Roll/Fiche Number: SC-1775
Volume: HIAA:1171

Susanne

Susanne Report 6 May 2013 00:40

THANK YOU TO YOUR REPLYS, WE FOUND HENNING DIED IN 1975 IN BROOKLYN NEW YORK HE DID MARRY BUT NO CHILDREN, RAGNOR LIND NEVER MARRIED ALL THREE BROTHERS INVOLVED IN THE SEA. WE FOUND A SMALL BOOK WITH THEIR PARENTS NAMES
NILS LIND BORN LANDSKONA
CHRISTINA mATHISON BORN URSHILT BOTH SWEDEN.
IF ANYBODY COULD HELP OR A WEBSITE WE COULD LOOK AT.
tHANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR HELP.
SUE

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 6 May 2013 09:13

It looks like there were two Swedish men called Henning Lind in the USA, both born 1895/1896 - one living in Illinnois and one in New York.

This is the New York one:

Selected U.S. Naturalization Records - Original Documents, 1790-1974

Name: Henning Gottfrid Lind
Age: 29
Birth Date: 31 Jul 1895 - born in Helsingborg.
Arrival Date: 1918
Naturalization Date: 27 Jan 1925
State: New York
Court Type: District Court
Court Location: Eastern District, New York
Naturalization Record Type: Petition for Naturalization

He was a seaman and lived 353 Clinton street, Brooklyn.

He arrived in US 31 July 1918 on the Nordland, departed from Gothenburg.

His referees were:
Joseph Harris, a shipping agent of 1484 Hoe Avenue, Bronx
Hulda Vesterburg, a housewife of 55 Strong Place, Brooklyn

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 6 May 2013 09:42

This is the man who lived Chicago

U.S. Naturalization Record Indexes, 1791-1992 (Indexed in World Archives Project)

Name: Henning Waldemar Lind
Birth Date: 1 Jul 1896
Birth Place: Sweden
Age at event: 45
Court District: Illinois, Indiana, Wisconsin, Iowa
Date of Action: 8 Jun 1942

There's not as much information on this record about arrival or birthplace.

He lived 1340 Clarendon Avenue, Chicago.

His witnesses:
Helen Martin of 5009 W29th Street, Cicero, Illinnois
John Serigon of 2153 North Avenue

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 6 May 2013 09:55

Of the two naturalisation records, the first seems much more likely, especially as Susanne said the brothers were connected with the sea.

Susanne

Susanne Report 6 May 2013 10:44

hi Marie Celeste
Thank you so much that Henning the first one i am thrillied i am trying to help my friends husband he was the son of Carl E Lind another brother but he knows nothing hardly of his family only they came from Sweden and demark he knew of his uncle Henning and Ragnor Lind but his dad was very old when he was born, his dad was not natauralised. all brothers came to Amercia and Died Henning new York and he thinks Ragnor died California and his dad died California. The three boys parents were drinkers and all the boys were fostered out all over the place. their dad Nils was born Landskeona Sweden. Ive sat for days trying to find something.
thank you so much just on henning lovely, Sue PS All brothers ay sea.

alviegal

alviegal Report 6 May 2013 11:47

He was a seaman, last residence was in N.S, town/city was Bkn?? His nearest relative or friend in country he came from was at 353 Clinton Street, NY.


New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957 about Henning G Lind
Name: Henning G Lind
Arrival Date: 26 Sep 1923
Birth Date: abt 1895
Birth Location: Sweden
Birth Location Other: holsingbory
Age: 28
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/ Nationality: Scandinavian
Port of Departure: Gothenburg
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Westphalia


There are a few of these records (as he was a seaman).



New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957 about Henning Lind
Name: Henning Lind
Arrival Date: 19 Sep 1942
Birth Date: abt 1895 (31 July 1895)
Birth Location: Sweden
Birth Location Other: Helsingborg, Sweden
Age: 47
Gender: Male
Port of Departure: Gourock, Scotland
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Queen Mary

alviegal

alviegal Report 6 May 2013 11:57


Social Security Death Index about Henning Lind
Name: Henning Lind
SSN: 261-28-8484
Last Residence: 11209 Brooklyn, Kings, New York, United States of America
Born: 31 Jul 1895
Died: Feb 1975
State (Year) SSN issued: Florida (Before 1951)



U.S., World War II Draft Registration Cards, 1942 about Henning Lind
Name: Henning Lind
Birth Date: 31 Jul 1895
Birth Place: Sweden
Residence: City Island
Race: White


This can be viewed on https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/F3J4-36R

Mrs Jaertina Lind was the person who would know his address. Could this be Tina?



Henning Gottfrid Lind, "New York, Passenger Arrival Lists (Ellis Island), 1892-1924"
Given Name: Henning Gottfrid
Surname: Lind
Last Place of Residence:
Event Date: 05 Oct 1918
Age: 23y
Nationality: Swede, Skendinaves
Departure Port: Gothenburg
Arrival Port: New York
Gender: Male
Marital Status:
Citizenship Status:
Ship Name: Nordland

From https://www.familysearch.org

alviegal

alviegal Report 6 May 2013 12:06

??

New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957 about Ragnor Lind
Name: Ragnor Lind
Arrival Date: 3 Jun 1918
Birth Date: abt 1903
Age: 15
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/ Nationality: Scandinavian
Port of Departure: Cananooa,cub
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Annetta

He was a galley boy.

Susanne

Susanne Report 6 May 2013 13:58

Wow thank you Alviegal yes that must be hennings wife known as tina is their anyway of finding more about them eric knows they didnt have children and he knows his uncle ragnor died in california seems to think he was a heavy drinker and never married,thank you all so much for the time you put into helping us so appreciated it is so nice for eric to even know this much about his family.susanne

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 6 May 2013 14:06

There is this Californian death for a Ragnar Lind but the age doesn't fit with the cabin boy above:

Social Security Death Index

Name: Ragnar E. Lind
SSN: 387-09-8832
Last Residence: 90043 Los Angeles, Los Angeles, California, United States of America
Born: 20 Jul 1911
Died: 26 Jun 1998
State (Year) SSN issued: Wisconsin (Before 1951)
....................................................................................................................

ADDED:

U.S. Public Records Index, Volume 2
Name: Ragnar E Lind
Birth Date: 20 Jul 1911
Address: 6118 Overhill Dr, Los Angeles, CA, 90043-3549

alviegal

alviegal Report 6 May 2013 14:19

Not convinced Ragnar b 1903 is the correct person. I think this is probably him as well but there is also a Gustaf Lind 48, from Sweden who is on the ship . Could be his father?
I think this is the record that susanne has found though from ellisisland.


First Name: Ragnar
Last Name: Lind
Ethnicity: Sweden, Swedish
Last Place of Residence:
Date of Arrival: Feb 19, 1918
Age at Arrival: 15y Gender: M Marital Status:
Ship of Travel: Rowena
Port of Departure: Buenos Aires
Manifest Line Number: 0020


Possible birth?


Child's Given Name: Gustaf Ragnar
Birth Date: 19 jun 1902
Birth Place: Gillberga, Värmland
Father: Gustaf Lind
Father Birth Date: 8 okt 1869 (8 Oct 1869)
Mother: Fredrika Elvira Berg
Mother Birth Date: 1 mar 1873
Mother Age: 29
GID Number: 483.60.3200
Roll/Fiche Number: CK0973
Volume: SCB


Still sailing with 52 year old Gustaf, who is a steward.

Name: Gustaf Ragnar Lind, wiper
Arrival Date: 26 Mar 1923
Birth Date: abt 1903
Age: 20
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/ Nationality: American
Port of Departure: Santa Fe
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Ossining

alviegal

alviegal Report 6 May 2013 14:23

MC looks like your Ragnar was married.


California, Marriage Index, 1960-1985 about Ragner E Lind
Name: Ragner E Lind
Age: 53
Est. Birth: abt 1912
Spouse Name: Lucille Oliver
Spouse Age: 57
Est. Spouse Birth: abt 1908
Date: 20 Jan 1965
Location: Los Angeles



Emigranten Populär, 1783-1951 Swedish Emigration Records, 1783-1951 about Ragnar E Lind
Name: Ragnar E Lind
Birth Year: abt 1911
Gender: Man (Male)
Place of Origin: Amerika
Destination: New York New York
Record Date: 10 sep 1935
Port of Departure: Göteborg
Database Name: EmiHamn
Occupation/Title: Maskinist
Archive Call Number: 134:803:83585B
Principal Person: Lind Ragnar E

Susanne

Susanne Report 7 May 2013 06:39

Thank you so much ladies for everything i am a bit overwhelmed with what you ladies have found on this Lind family. any advice what to do next? i have tried to look at swedish sites for this family not much and a lot written in swedish. Nothing on Nils or a Christina Lind Eric knows nothing about his grandparents his dad was old and didnt want to talk about his family as the three boys all split up in sweden the parents didnt want to know the children as the story goes they were mixing with royalty and given titles who knows. Sue

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 7 May 2013 08:46

To be honest Susanne - I don't know much about Swedish research so can only suggest sites like FamilySearch, someone who knows more may have a better idea. If you google Swedish Genealogy there are all sorts of sites come up.

I'll still keep looking around in case anything useful turns up.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 7 May 2013 08:48

Alviegal posted an emigration record above - there is also this one:

Emigranten Populär, 1783-1951 Swedish Emigration Records, 1783-1951
Name: Ragnar E Lind
Birth Year: abt 1911
Gender: Man (Male)
Place of Origin: Hova Västra Götaland Län, Sverige
Destination: Milwaukee
Record Date: 26 apr 1930
Port of Departure: Göteborg
Database Name: EmiHamn
Occupation/Title: Jordarb
Archive Call Number: 128:845:39396
Principal Person: Lind Ragnar E

The occupation on Alviegal's post can probably be taken as machinist, I've no idea what "jordarb" is on this one, neither has google translate.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 7 May 2013 09:05

I have a feeling that the Ragnar E Lind that we found above, born 20 July 1911, may not be the right one:

Sverige, namnindexerade födelseuppgifter, 1880-1920 Sweden, Indexed Birth Records, 1880-1920

Child's Given Name: Erik Ragnar
Birth Date: 20 jul 1911
Birth Place: Hova, Skaraborg (Västra Götaland)
Father: Johan Oskar Lind
Father Birth Date: 29 mar 1879
Mother: Beda Vilhelmina Olofsdotter
Mother Birth Date: 16 maj 1879 (16 May 1879)
Mother Age: 32
GID Number: 796.44.9400
Roll/Fiche Number: CK1854
Volume: SCB

Even though it's in Swedish the parents' names bear no resemblance to what Susanne has.

(This is from Ancestry)

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 7 May 2013 09:15

There is this one, though:

Sverige, namnindexerade födelseuppgifter, 1880-1920
Sweden, Indexed Birth Records, 1880-1920

Child's Given Name: Ragnar Nikoland (Nikolaus?)
Birth Date: 28 sep 1897
Birth Place: Helsingborgs stadsförsamling, Malmöhus (Skåne)
Father: Nils Håkansson Lind
Father Birth Date: 26 okt 1862 (26 Oct 1862)
Mother: Kristina Mattisdotter
Mother Birth Date: 27 apr 1859
Mother Age: 38
GID Number: 100012.40.20800
Roll/Fiche Number: SC-1732
Volume: HIAA:1192

Could Kristina Mattisdotter translate to Christina Mattisson? The birthplace also appears to match Hennig.

Before the father's name it says "jornarb", might be occupation.

They lived 13 Längvinkeln