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Kucinta thanks for your imput.

Yes the son Christopher married Betsey Farmer.

What I am trying to find is Eliza's maiden name, Christopher and Charles's mother.

Origin of the Baylis- Bedford combo?


Name: Christopher Bedford<<<<<
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Age:
Spouse's Name: Florence Baylis<<<<
Spouse's Birth Date:
Spouse's Birthplace:
Spouse's Age:
Event Date: 04 Nov 1791
Event Place: Frampton-Cotterell, Gloucester, England
Father's Name:
Mother's Name:
Spouse's Father's Name:
Spouse's Mother's Name:
Race:
Marital Status:
Previous Wife's Name:
Spouse's Race:
Spouse's Marital Status:
Spouse's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I04495-9
System Origin: England-EASy
GS Film number: 1596036
Reference ID: item 26

Can find two more children for this couple William Bayless Bedford
christening: 21 Jan 1796 St. Nicholas, Bristol, Gloucester, England

and Mary Ellen (baptised same day as Charles Baylis Bedford)

birth: 11 Nov 1798
christening: 04 Feb 1811 Bristol, Gloucester, England
residence: 1798 Bristol, Gloucester, England

Can't see a son called Christopher, but maybe they didn't bother baptising him, if he existed?

Is this son's marriage ?


Name: Christopher Bedford
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1828
Age: 21
Spouse Name: Betsey Farmer
Spouse Age: 23
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 22 Jan 1849
Parish: Bermondsey St Luke
Borough: Southwark
Father Name: Charles Bedford
Spouse Father Name: Frederick Farmer
Register Type: Parish Register

Do you have baptisms for the two sons? If not, bear in mind Eliza might not be their mother.

Charles may have been married more than once.

Mike thats the one.

Sorry had to dish and have dinner as oh was starving.

Mike it was just a guess that they could have married in Bristol as they were both from there.

I looked on London Marriages but could'nt find them on that.

Thanks Fredk but I can't look up on Familyseaarch now it keeps saying to change my browser and other hlaf won't do it for me.

https://familysearch.org/search

Is this the couple ? ( remembering as Beverley pointed out that ages were rounded down in 1841)

Name: Charles Bedford
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1801
Gender: Male

Civil parish: St John Horsleydown
Hundred: Southwark
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
Registration district: St Olaves
Sub-registration district: St John

Charles Bedford 40 - ship agent - Not born in county
Eliza Bedford 40
Chas Bedford 15
Christopher Bedford 13






Bristol was Charles birthplace but how do you know they
married in Bristol ?

1861

Name: Charles Bedford
Age: 64
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1797
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Eliza Bedford
Gender: Male
Where born: Bristol

Civil parish: Whitechapel
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Registration district: Whitechapel
Sub-registration district: Whitechapel North

Charles Bedford 64
Eliza Bedford 61

On the image for the marriage of Charles jnr. his father Charles is a Merchantile clerk.
This could well be a shipping agent........

Sorry Mel, I don't understand your comments.
The man I found has father Christopher and a son called Christoper, so it seems more than possible that he has a brother Christopher too?
Also he was born in 1797, and CHRISTENED in 1811. A person shown as aged 40 in the 1841 census could certainly have been born between 1796 and 1801.
I'm not saying that the one I have found is definitely right but I don't understand your reasons for discounting him.

Thanks Vera and it may be.

Beverley no it is not that one.

Father Charles Bedford 1797/6 on the 1841 census he is down as born 1801.

My friends connection is through Christopher Bedford his brother.

Is this the right man?

Name: Charles Baylis Bedford
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 04 Feb 1811
Christening Place: Bristol, Gloucester, England
Birth Date: 01 May 1797
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Christopher Bedford
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Florince

Can't see his marriage at the moment but here is his son's:

Name: Charles Baylis Jun. Bedford
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Age:
Spouse's Name: Clara Sophia Parker
Spouse's Birth Date:
Spouse's Birthplace:
Spouse's Age:
Event Date: 19 Oct 1852
Event Place: Perish Of St. Mary, Lambeth, Surrey, England
Father's Name: Charles Baylis Bedford
Mother's Name:
Spouse's Father's Name: Henry Parker

Not having much luck on the IGI...

found this one??

License Date:10 Nov 1824
License Year:1824
Bride Surname:COLSON
Dual Date:10 Nov 1824
Groom Surname:BEDFORD
Record source:Vicar-General Marriage Licence Allegations 1694-1850
Data provider:Society of Genealogists
Transcriptions © Society of Genealogists




Regards Vera

I am looking for a marriage for Charles Bedford b1796/7 to an Eliza in the Bristol area please.

I can't get on Familysearch now they have changed it.

Their first child was born in Middx Charles Beford 1826 I think and then Christopher Bedford 1828.

I have the couple on the census's but was hoping for the marriage.

Charles senior was a Ship Agent.

Thanks Mel