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Rachel
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6 May 2013 22:47 |
Thank you all for your help which greatly appreciated and all the information you have supplied.
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GlasgowLass
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6 May 2013 22:30 |
Re Grace and some f the children in Seattle at 1910.. Husband Skelton is back in Kansas with his other son, therefore they must have been living between Kansas and Seattle as they are all found in Seattle at 1922
1910 United States Federal Census about Skelton Burkett Name: Skelton Burkett [Skelton Birkett] Age in 1910: 52 Birth Year: 1858 Birthplace: Illinois Home in 1910: Glick, Kiowa, Kansas Race: White Gender: Male Relation to Head of House: Head Marital Status: Married Father's Birthplace: England Mother's Birthplace: Ohio Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Skelton Burkett 52 Harold H Burkett 26 Jess Monroe 24 Hired Man
1920 United States Federal Census about Skelton Birkett Name: Skelton Birkett [Shelton Birkett] Age: 62 Birth Year: abt 1858 Birthplace: Illinois Home in 1920: Glick, Kiowa, Kansas Race: White Gender: Male Relation to Head of House: Head Marital Status: Married Father's Birthplace: Illinois Mother's Birthplace: Michigan Home owned: Own Able to Read: Yes Able to Write: Yes Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Skelton Birkett 62 Harold H Birkett 35 [25] Shirley Birkett 28 Maurine S Birkett 4 Jean L Birkett 2
U.S. City Directories, 1821-1989 about Skelton Birkett Name: Skelton Birkett Gender: M (Male) Residence Year: 1922*** Street Address: 5008 12th av NE Residence Place: Seattle, Washington
1930 United States Federal Census about Grace G Birkett Name: Grace G Birkett [Grace G Bickett] Gender: Female Birth Year: abt 1858 Birthplace: Ohio Race: White Home in 1930: Seattle, King, Washington View Map Marital Status: Married Relation to Head of House: Head Father's Birthplace: New York Mother's Birthplace: Ohio Grace G Birkett 72 Donald S Birkett 47 Frederick J Birkett 44 Gertrude A Christofferson 24 Nettie M Bryant 52 Grace B Umback 13 Emerson White 25 Occupation: Live Stock Dlr
Washington, Deaths, 1883-1960 about Grace G Birkett Name: Grace G Birkett [Grace G Gleason] Gender: Female Birth Date: abt 1858 Death Date: 13 Oct 1931 Age at Death: 73 Death Location: Seattle, King, Washington Father: Silas Gleason Mother: Sabra Warren Record Source: Washington State Death RecordsSpouse: Grace G Birkett Publication Title: Seattle, Washington, City Directory, 1922
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GlasgowLass
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6 May 2013 22:19 |
Yes Rachel, All the evidence says so.
I am certain that the info on Findagrave caused the confusion. George was Skelton Snr's son, but he wasn't Florence's father. Her father was almost certainly Skelton Jnr
The Seattle link more or less proves that too.
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Rachel
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6 May 2013 22:15 |
The following is taken from the History of Shelby and Moultrie Counties Illinois:
This is part of the write up I have in my possession:
By his marriage Skelton and Mary had the following 7 children:
Their names are: Henry, who at present is a resident of Springfield, Ills,; John who was a resident of Kansas, and was drowned while bathing in a river. He was at the time in his 22nd year. Skelton, a farmer and resident of Greenwood County, Kansas: Harriet died in her second year; George, a farmer, also a resident of Greenwood County, Kas.; Mary and Elizabeth are yet at home.
I am starting to think that this Florence is the daughter of Skelton and Grace Gleason.
I am now thinking that the Florence that married Ebin Walter Pyle is the daughter of Skelton and Grace Birkett.
I have found records for all the rest of the children and their families.
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GlasgowLass
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6 May 2013 22:11 |
EH No ! Looks like Skelton was simply not on the 1910 return, as he was in Kansas with his son Harold! I have moved on to US Diectories and Skelton, Grace G and son, Donald Sketon are all still in Seattle at 1922 son Donald Skelton Birkett was still living in Seattle in 1942.. WW2 draft
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MarieCeleste
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6 May 2013 22:01 |
Well, if Grace was married to Skelton they certainly separated at some point as evidenced by the census records. I wonder if that's why his cremains (is that an American term?) were unclaimed?
Could it be that George was a loved uncle who stayed close to his niece so they're all buried in the family plot?
Must admit I had to go on Google maps to check out the locations - Kansas city is slap bang on the border of states Kansas and Missouri.
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GlasgowLass
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6 May 2013 21:50 |
Aww! I'm Sorry MarieCeleste. XX
Re Findagrave... George Skelton is on the family grave with his parents stating he died in 1954. Florence A Pyle is also buried here. However, there is no evidence that George was Florence's father. I am guessing that the person who updated the info, assumed that they were father and daughter... there is no real evidence.
Now for the confusion.... Skelton Birkett... George was last found in Missouri, which does seem to be where SKELTON's remains are held! Birth: Jul. 10, 1856 Death: Sep. 23, 1940
These are of un-claimed cremains in storage at the cemetery. Please contact the office on how to claim them if interested. Burial: Oak Grove Cemetery Saint Louis St. Louis County Missouri, USA
Does this mean that George lived as Skelton and vice versa, because their profiles match each other right up until.... they died... and then reverted to their original names. It's a cunundrem right enough!
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MarieCeleste
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6 May 2013 21:43 |
You beat me!
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GlasgowLass
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6 May 2013 21:32 |
AH HA! Looks like George never married!
1870 United States Federal Census about George Birket Name: George Birket Age in 1870: 11 Birth Year: abt 1859 Birthplace: Illinois Home in 1870: Okaw, Shelby, Illinois Race: White Gender: Male Post Office: Shelbyville Value of real estate: View image Household Members: Name Age Skelton Birket 40 Elizabeth Birket 21 Henry Birket 18 John Birket 16 Skelton Birket 13 George Birket 11 Mary Birket 9 Elizabeth Birket 6 Jane Birket 1 Thomas Lenover 23 Wm A Whithill 23 John Whithill 20 Elizabeth Webb 16 Hannah Harvy 38
1880 United States Federal Census about George Birkett Name: George Birkett Age: 21 Birth Year: abt 1859 Birthplace: Illinois Home in 1880: Salem, Greenwood, Kansas Race: White Gender: Male Relation to Head of House: Self (Head) Marital Status: Single Father's Birthplace: England Mother's Birthplace: Ohio Neighbors: View others on page Occupation: Farmer & Stock Raiser Race: White Line: 21 Roll: KS1885_52 Household Member(s): Name Age Geo Birkett 26 J H Gerrison 27 Male
Kansas State Census Collection, 1855-1925 about Geo Birkett Name: Geo Birkett Census Date: 1 Mar 1905 Residence County: Greenwood Residence State: Kansas Locality: Eureka Birth Location: Illinois Family Number: 155 Gender: Male Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859 Race: White Line: 21 Roll: ks1905_59 Household Member(s): Name Age Geo Birkett 46
1940 United States Federal Census about George Birkett Name: George Birkett Age: 81 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859 Gender: Male Race: White Birthplace: Illinois Marital Status: Single Relation to Head of House: Lodger Home in 1940: Kansas City, Jackson, Missouri View Map Street: West 12th Street House Number: 310 Inferred Residence in 1935: Kansas City, Jackson, Missouri Residence in 1935: Same Place Resident on farm in 1935: No Sheet Number: 85A Institution: Stats Hotel *** (THIS IS A LARGE HOTEL, ) Attended School or College: No Highest Grade Completed: Elementary school, 6th grade
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MarieCeleste
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6 May 2013 21:32 |
Hi Rachel - I do agree that they are 2 different people (have posted the 1870 above).
I'm still not 100% convinced on the accuracy of the FindAGrave transcription, bearing in mind that they're not official records and are possible prone to mis-transcription and human error.
Will still keep looking ......
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Rachel
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6 May 2013 21:19 |
Yes George definitely had a brother Skelton as I have two write ups on Skelton Birkett Senior born 1820 in Cumberland, England who married Mary Bland and later married Elizabeth Lenover. In the write up it lists all his children.
Henry John Skelton Harriet George Mary Elizabeth
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GlasgowLass
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6 May 2013 21:18 |
So I see Marie Celeste , I'm not convinced! Both daughters that were named on the opening thread are children of this couple, Skelton and Grace Am currently looking at a potential brother named George. Born Illinois circa 1858?
EDIT: fixed text got my named muxed-ip
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MarieCeleste
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6 May 2013 21:10 |
Apparently we're on the wrong tack GL - that's his brother. :-(
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GlasgowLass
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6 May 2013 21:09 |
This looks like it
spouse: Gracie Gleason ** Name Skelton Birkett Birth Date 1856 Birthplace Age 22 Spouse's Name Gracie Gleason Spouse's Birth Date 1857 Spouse's Birthplace Spouse's Age 21 Event Date 15 Nov 1878 Event Place Douglas, Kansas Indexing Project (Batch) Number M72513-3 System Origin Kansas-EASy GS Film number 1547790 Reference ID
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MarieCeleste
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6 May 2013 21:05 |
Rachel, are you 100% that George and Skelton are brothers and not the same person?
It's just such a huge coincidence that Grace Gleason and daughter Florence are also in Seattle Washington in 1910 where your Florence was just before she married .......
EDIT: Yes - I see from the 1870 that they are brothers, oh well!
1870 United States Federal Census
Name: Skelton Birket Age in 1870: 40 Birth Year: abt 1830 Birthplace: England Home in 1870: Okaw, Shelby, Illinois Race: White Gender: Male Post Office: Shelbyville
Household Members: Name Age Skelton Birket 40 Elizabeth Birket 21 Henry Birket 18 John Birket 16 Skelton Birket 13 George Birket 11 Mary Birket 9 Elizabeth Birket 6 Jane Birket 1 Thomas Lenover 23 Wm A Whithill 23 John Whithill 20 Elizabeth Webb 16 Hannah Harvy 38
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GlasgowLass
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6 May 2013 21:00 |
I think this may daughter Margaret Pyle
1940 United States Federal Census about Margaret P McClure Name: Margaret P McClure Age: 24 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1916 Gender: Female Race: White Birthplace: Kansas Marital Status: Married Relation to Head of House: Wife Home in 1940: Wellington, Sumner, Kansas View Map Street: Washington House Number: 1408 Inferred Residence in 1935: Wichita, Sedgwick, Kansas Residence in 1935: Wichita, Sedgwick, Kansas Resident on farm in 1935: No Sheet Number: 63A Attended School or College: No Highest Grade Completed: College, 3rd year Weeks Worked in 1939: 0 Income: 0 Income Other Sources: No Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Allison C McClure 26 Male Theatre Manager Margaret P McClure 24 Wife
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Rachel
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6 May 2013 20:59 |
George had a brother Skelton Birkett born 1856 and he married Grace Gleason in 1878 they also had a daughter Florence born 1890.
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MarieCeleste
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6 May 2013 20:59 |
This is Grace's death so we now know her maiden name:
"Washington, Death Certificates, 1907-1960" Name: Grace G. Birkett Event Date: 13 Oct 1931 Event Place: Seattle, King, Washington Gender: Female Race (Original): Age (Formatted): 73 years 9 months 13 days Birth Year (Estimated): 1858 Marital Status: Married Spouse's Name: Skelton Birkett Father's Name: Silas Gleason Mother's Name: Sabra Warren GS Film number: 2022825 Digital Folder Number: 4221548 Image Number: 2408 Reference ID: 3395
Sources https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/N35C-2PX
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GlasgowLass
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6 May 2013 20:56 |
1920 United States Federal Census about Eben Pyle Name: Eben Pyle [Elen Pyle] Age: 36 Birth Year: abt 1884 Birthplace: Kansas Home in 1920: Wichita Ward 2, Sedgwick, Kansas Race: White Gender: Male Relation to Head of House: Head Marital Status: Married Spouse's Name: Florence Pyle Father's Birthplace: Kentucky Mother's Birthplace: Indiana Home owned: Own Able to Read: Yes Able to Write: Yes Name Age Eben Pyle 36 Florence Pyle 29 Mary Ruth Pyle 6 dau . b Kansas Margaret Pyle 4 dau. b Kanasa [4 3/12] Alice Williams 16 Servant 1930 United States Federal Census about Margaret Pyle Name: Margaret Pyle [Margaret Pughe] Gender: Female Birth Year: abt 1916 Birthplace: Kansas Race: White
Home in 1930: Wichita, Sedgwick, Kansas View Map Marital Status: Single Relation to Head of House: Daughter Father's Name: Eben W Pyle Father's Birthplace: Kansas Mother's Name: Florence Pyle Mother's Birthplace: Kansas Name Age Eben W Pyle 47 Florence Pyle 40 Mary R Pyle 16 Margaret Pyle
1940 United States Federal Census about Eben Walter Pyle Name: Eben Walter Pyle Age: 57 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883 Gender: Male Race: White Birthplace: Kansas Marital Status: Married Relation to Head of House: Head Home in 1940: Wichita, Sedgwick, Kansas View Map Street: Faulkner House Number: 901 Farm: No Inferred Residence in 1935: Wichita, Sedgwick, Kansas Residence in 1935: Same House Sheet Number: 1B Number of Household in Order of Visitation: 13 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Eben Walter Pyle 57 Florence Pyle 50 Edith Tettlers 21 Occ MAID
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MarieCeleste
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6 May 2013 20:54 |
Yes, it is them. It looks like Grace and George/Skelton separated - they're living in different parts of the US after 1910.
Grace & family in 1910:
1910 United States Federal Census Name: Grace G Birkett Age in 1910: 53 Birth Year: abt 1857 Birthplace: Ohio Home in 1910: Seattle Ward 10, King, Washington Race: White Gender: Female Relation to Head of House: Self (Head) Marital Status: Married Father's Birthplace: Vermont Mother's Birthplace: Ohio
Household Members: Name Age Grace G Birkett 53 Donald S Birkett 26 Fred Birkett 22 Florence Birkett 20
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