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Can some kind person do me a kindness please. I am still trying to find my elusive gt.grandmother Sarah Ann Cooper b. 1873 Islington.

As you can imagine this is a very common name, and the permutations are endless.

However, I THINK she married a Joseph Fluin b. 1865. They married in Islington in 1892.

Can someone please look on the 1901 and 1911 Census returns [presumably Islington] to see if any of the dates match?

Thank you.

Which child would be your ancestor?



1901 England Census
about Joseph Fluiss
Name: Joseph Fluiss
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah Fluiss
Gender: Male
Where born: Islington, London, England

Civil parish: Islington
Ecclesiastical parish: St James
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Islington
Sub-registration district: Lower Holloway
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 110
Piece: 173
Folio: 89
Page Number: 22
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Fluiss 36
Sarah Fluiss 28
Charles Fluiss 9
Edith Fluiss 7
Joseph Fluiss 5
Rosina Fluiss 3
Henry Fluiss 7 Months




Andy

Hello Andy,

Could well be, this lady seems to be shrouded in mystery. I have had one version of events about her, but they turned out to be not true.

Do you have an address for the 1901 Census, then I will be able to narrow it down a bit. She was living at Slaney Place in 1881 with her parents.

Any joy with the 1911 please?

best wishes

1901 address looks like 5 James Street.

No luck 1911 yet.

Which of their children would be your ancestor?

Andy

Oh sorry Andy, I waffled on and did not answer your question!

My ancestor is the mother Sarah. She had a child in 1891 out of wedlock, and left him with her parents, then married and had a new family.

Strangely, she named her first born son and her eldest son in her new family the same................Charles!!

Thanks for your help so far.

one might be this one?

Possible 1911 FLUIN, Rose aged 13

Address:40 Mertell Road Dulwich
Industrial School, Inmate, looks like a Girls Home

Kind regards
Amanda

Thank you Fredk, but Cooper was Sarah's maiden name.

She married a Joseph Fluin/Fluiss, and I think lived in Islington.

But thank you for looking up the 1911 for me.

Cheers.

Looks like her death

Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page

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Deaths Jun 1906 (>99%)
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Fluin Sarah 34 Islington 1b 123


Andy

Thank you Amanda, that may well be the daughter.

Any idea of the whereabouts of Sarah and Joseph the parents?

Best wishes

Have removed it as it does not apply

Thank you for taking the time to look up 1911 nevertheless, Fredk.

Much appreciated, thank you for your time.

best wishes.

Thank you Andy, it may well be Sarah's death.

What a sad little life she had.............

thanks again.

No sign of Joseph after 1901

Andy

https://www.deceasedonline.com/servlet/GSDOSearch

(some Fluin Burials on above)

Chris :)


Deaths Mar 1906 (>99%)
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Fluim Joseph 42 Islington 1b 184

This is the fmp version of the 1901.


1901 census transcription details for: 5, James Street, Islington
Print Close

National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG13
Piece: 173
Folio: 89
Page: 22
Reg. District: Islington
Sub District: Lower Holloway
Parish: Islington
Enum. District: 16
Ecclesiastical District: St James
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 5, James Street, Islington
County: London
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
FLUIRE, Joseph Head Married M 36 1865 Bricklayers Labourer
Islington, London
FLUIRE, Sarah Wife Married F 28 1873 Charwoman
Islington, London
FLUIRE, Charles Son Single M 9 1892
Islington, London
FLUIRE, Edith Daughter Single F 7 1894
Islington, London
FLUIRE, Joseph Son Single M 5 1896
Islington, London
FLUIRE, Rosina Daughter Single F 3 1898
Islington, London
FLUIRE, Henry Son Single M 0 (7 MOS) 1901
Islington, London

??

Civil Registration event: Death
Print Close
Name: FLUIN, Joseph
Registration district: Islington
County: London
Year of registration: 1906
Quarter of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at death: 42
Volume no: 1B
Page no: 184


Son Joseph.


Civil Registration event: Death
Print Close
Name: FLUIN, Joseph
Registration district: Islington
County: London
Year of registration: 1925
Quarter of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at death: 29
Volume no: 1B
Page no: 200


Daughter Edith.

Civil Registration event: Death
Print Close
Name: FLUIN, Edith
Registration district: Islington
County: London
Year of registration: 1913
Quarter of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Age at death: 19
Volume no: 1B
Page no: 176

Oooh thank you all. I have been on bmd and deceasedonline while you have all been busy replying to me.

I see that Joseph and Sarah died within 3 months of each other. Was 1906 the height of the influenza epidemic? Maybe that accounts for the daughter being in some kind of institution?

I have gained more info tonight, than in the last 5 years searching. Thank you all very much for your time and efforts, very much appreciated.

Best wishes
Madeleine

According to the 1901 census, Charles Fluin (Transcribed as Fluiss/Fluire) was born in 1892.

I can't see a birth registered for him but wondering about this.....

??

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index, 1837-1915
about Charles Fluin
Name: Charles Fluin
Spouse name: Emma Tree
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1906
Registration district: St Pancras
Inferred County: London
Volume Number: 1b
Page Number: 337

If he was born in 1892........he would have been 16 when he married?

London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965
about Charles Fluin
Name: Charles Fluin
Year: 1918
County or Borough: Islington
Ward or Division/Constituency: Islington

With Emma Fluin

Res: 17 Caledonia Street

With them are.......

Wood Charles Walter
Wood Fanny Matilda
Wood George Frederick

Henry 1911 possible
RG14PN841 RD10 SD3 ED21 SN1
Reg. District: Islington
Sub District:Tollington
Parish:Islington
Address:
Andover Row Hornsey Road Tollington Park London N
County: London
FLUEN, Harry
Inmate M aged 9 1902, School
Birthplace Unknown