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Emma Eliza Humphrey 1879 Kent

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Treemadnancy

Treemadnancy Report 9 May 2013 21:14

Hi Guys, we seem to have a bit of confusion here...I have Emma Eliza Humprey married to William Robert Cant in 1912 Maidstone Kent, she is aged 21 and hes 27..They have had 5 children Winifred was the last in 1919..William Cant seems to have disappeared after this and was in the Navy.. He is now married to my great aunt Elizabeth Neish in 1919 aged (27) again.. The father listed for William is Henry Joseph and mother is Mary Ann Cole, which is correct. On the first marriage Emma Humphreys father is listed as Richard and the witness is Richard..Yet everyone on Ancestry has her father listed as Edward, which is quiet confusing, I keep telling myself that there is an error, but Richard is still living at the time of the first marriage in 1912 and the witness could well be a brother, so I cant see how there could be room for an error..Can anyone help :-0

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 9 May 2013 21:21

There's a tree on Ancestry where the father is listed as Richard.

Or perhaps it's your tree? Roberts family tree?

patchem

patchem Report 9 May 2013 21:24

When and where did William die?

Sorry, when does William disappear?

'Everyone' on ancestry can be wrong.

Have you got the actual certificates?

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 9 May 2013 21:24

Or perhaps it's a different Emma Humphrey in the tree mentioned above.
No middle name given; born Brenchley, Kent, 1892; parents Richard Humphrey and Emma Styles.
Various siblings, including a Richard.
No husband listed.

patchem

patchem Report 9 May 2013 21:29

If Emma was born in 1879 she would be 33 in 1912.

Added:
I cannot see an Emma Eliza birth, where was it, please?

patchem

patchem Report 9 May 2013 21:34

Do you mean this marriage?
Marriages Dec 1912
Cant William R D Humphrey Maidstone 2a 1852
Humphrey Emma Cant Maidstone 2a 1852

Added:
Is this William?
Births Dec 1885
Cant William Robert D I.Wight 2b 597

and possible death;
Robert W D Cant
Birth Date: abt 1885
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1949
Age at Death: 64
Registration district: Isle of Wight
Inferred County: Hampshire
Volume: 6b
Page: 719

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 9 May 2013 21:37

According to FreeBMD Winifred was born 1916, and there's a later child in 1917:

Births Mar 1916 (>99%)
Cant Winifred A Humphrey Maidstone 2a 1528
Births Jun 1917 (>99%)
Cant Charles F Humphrey Maidstone 2a 1340

Assuming William was the father, he "disappeared" between 1916 and 1919 when he turned up in Glasgow marrying Elizabeth Neish.

jansmith

jansmith Report 9 May 2013 21:39

what was Richards occupation on the marriage cert?

Choccy

Choccy Report 9 May 2013 21:40


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1891

RG number: RG12
Piece: 887
Folio: 121
Page: 23
Reg. District: Isle of Wight
Sub District: Newport
Parish: Carisbrooke
Enum. District: 8
Ecclesiastical District: St Johns
City/Municipal Borough: Newport
Address: 79, Trafalgar Road, Carisbrooke, Dodner, Newport
County: Hampshire


CANT, Mary J Head Married F 35 1856
Brighstone, Isle of Wight
CANT, Charles W H Son M 13 1878 Scholar
Newport, Isle of Wight
CANT, Frederick J Son M 11 1880 Scholar
Newport, Isle of Wight
CANT, Alice M Daughter F 9 1882 Scholar
Newport, Isle of Wight
CANT, Beatrice H Daughter F 6 1885 Scholar
Newport, Isle of Wight
>>>>>CANT, William D R Son M 5 1886 Scholar
Newport, Isle of Wight
CANT, Robert W D Son M 5 1886 Scholar
Newport, Isle of Wight
CANT, Ellen J E Daughter F 4 1887 Scholar
Newport, Isle of Wight
CANT, Arthur A J Son M 0 (9M) 1891
Newport, Isle of Wight

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 9 May 2013 21:42

Elizabeth's death??

1939 CANT ELIZABETH MCLEA
Other surname:NEISH F 37
CATHCART (GLASGOW) GLASGOW CITY/LANARK
644/19 1137

jansmith

jansmith Report 9 May 2013 21:43

?1911

Name:
Eliza Emma Humphrey
Age in 1911:20
Estimated Birth Year:
abt 1891
Relation to Head:
Daughter
Gender:Female
Birth Place:Bromley
Civil parish:Bromley
County/Island:Kent
Country:England
Street Address:47 Pope Road, Bromley, Common, Kent
Marital Status:Single
Occupation:Servant
Registration district:Bromley


Name:
Richard Humphrey
Age in 1911:
57
Estimated Birth Year:
abt 1854
Relation to Head:
Head
Gender:
Male
Birth Place:
Bromley, Kent, England
Civil parish:
Bromley
County/Island:
Kent
Country:
England
Street Address:
47 Pope Road, Bromley, Common, Kent
Marital Status:
Married
Years Married:
22
Estimated Marriage Year:
1889
Occupation:
Bricklayer
Household Members:
Richard Humphrey 57
Mary Ann Humphrey 55
Eliza Emma Humphrey 20
Charlotte Doris Humphrey 14
Harriet Humphrey 84

Choccy

Choccy Report 9 May 2013 21:48



1911

RG14PN5703 RG78PN259 RD93 SD2 ED6 SN278
Reg. District: Isle of Wight
Sub District: Newport
Parish: Newport
Enum. District: 6
Address: 22 New Street Newport I W
County: Hampshire


CANT, Mary Jane Head Widow F 55 1856 Newport
>>>>>>CANT, William Son M 25 1886 Labourer General Newport
CANT, Robert Son M 25 1886 Shop Assistant Newport
CANT, Arthur John Son M 19 1892 Labourer General Newport
CANT, Winifred Daughter F 17 1894 Domestic Servant Newport
CANT, Lillian Daughter F 15 1896 Newport
FREEMAN, Thomas William Son In Law Married M 32 1879 Stoker Harnsfield
FREEMAN, Beatrice Boarder Married
6 years F 27 1884 Newport
FREEMAN, Dorothy Granddaughter F 5 1906 Newport
FREEMAN, Winifred Daughter F 4 1907 Newport
FREEMAN, Beatrice Daughter F 3 1908 Newport
FREEMAN, William Son M 0 (9 MONTHS) 1911 Newport

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 9 May 2013 21:48

Maybe Emma's birth??

Births Mar 1893 (>99%)
Humphrey Emma Elizabeth Medway 2a 605

BeverleyW

BeverleyW Report 9 May 2013 21:49

How about this birth

Births Mar 1893 (>99%)
Humphrey Emma Elizabeth Medway 2a 605

She could have changed her year of birth to appear as of full age instead of a minor.

jansmith

jansmith Report 9 May 2013 22:00

birth index for 1911 above
Name:
Eliza Emma Humphrey
Date of Registration:Apr-May-Jun 1890
Registration district:Bromley
Inferred County:Kent
Volume:2a
Page:406

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 9 May 2013 22:06

Here's the Cant family in 1901 (1891 & 1911 posted by Choccy above):


1901 England Census about Mary J Cant
Name: Mary J Cant
[Mary Jane Cole]
Age: 45
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Henry Cant
Gender: Female
Where born: Brighton, Sussex, England

Civil parish: Newport
Ecclesiastical parish: Carisbrooke St John the Baptist
Town: Newport
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

View image

Registration district: Isle of Wight
Sub-registration district: Newport
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 239
Piece: 1021
Folio: 63
Page Number: 34
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry Cant 57
Mary J Cant 45
Frederick Cant 21
G A Beck 23
Alice M Beck 20
Beatrice H Beck 18
William P D Cant 15 - actually RD on image, I think
Robert D W Cant 15
Ellen J E Cant 13
Arthur A J Cant 11
Amy W Cant 7
Lillian A Cant 5

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 9 May 2013 22:09

That Emma Elizabeth Humphrey born 1893 isn't the right one:

Deaths Dec 1898 (>99%)
Humphrey Emma Elizabeth 5 Medway 2a 366

MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 9 May 2013 22:20

I like the Brenchley one.

This fits with a death.

England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2006 about Emma Cant
Name: Emma Cant
Birth Date: 14 Nov 1891
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1981
Age at Death: 89
Registration district: Maidstone
Inferred County: Kent
Volume: 16
Page: 1409


Maureen

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 9 May 2013 22:27

This is the only Emma Humphrey birth in Kent around that time apart from the Medway one who died. Brenchley's just a few miles away from Tunbridge:

Births Mar 1892 (>99%)
Humphrey Emma Tunbridge 2a 704

EDIT:
But no middle name in either birth or death.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 9 May 2013 22:33


1901 England Census about Emma Humphrey
Name: Emma Humphrey
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1892
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Richard Humphrey
Mother's Name: Emma Humphrey
Gender: Female
Where born: Brenchley, Kent, England

Civil parish: East Farleigh
Ecclesiastical parish: East Farleigh St Mary
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

View image

Registration district: Maidstone
Sub-registration district: Loose
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 82
Piece: 764
Folio: 86
Page Number: 15
Household Members:
Name Age
Richard Humphrey 39
Emma Humphrey 35
Richard Humphrey 16
Edward Humphrey 14
William Humphrey 12
Catherine Humphrey 11
Emma Humphrey 9
Frank Humphrey 6
Alfred Humphrey 1