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Janet Miller b. 1890 "Scotland"

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rootgatherer Report 10 May 2013 13:36


Name: Elizabeth Jamieson
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 21 Jun 1801
Birth Date: 13 Jun 1801
Father's Name: John Jamieson
Mother's Name: Isobell Hatilie
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C11768-5
System Origin: Scotland-VR
GS Film number: 1067920
Reference ID: 2:188435H

The spelling of Isabel's surname varies on the christening records for her children.


John's surname too



rootgatherer Report 10 May 2013 14:14

I think that this is the Janet that the tree on Ancestry refers to. You would need to get the birth certificate to check that her mother's maiden surname matches that given by Janet on her marriage to Robert.


Name: Janet Miller
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1896
Relationship: Daur (Daughter)
Father's Name: James Miller
Gender: Female
Where born: Tillicoultry, Clackmannanshire
Registration number: 468
Registration district: Tillicoultry
Civil parish: Tillicoultry
County: Clackmannanshire
Address: 8 Commercial Bdgs
ED: 5
Household schedule number: 50
Line: 24
Roll: CSSCT1901_152
Household Members:
Name Age
James Miller 44, Woollen Carder
Mary Miller 21
James Miller 17
William Miller 14
Maggie Miller 12
Alexander Miller 8
Janet Miller 5
Euphemia Miller 3

All born Tillicoultry, Clackmannanshire

Same family in 1891

Name: James Miller
Age: 34
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Janet Miller
Gender: Male
Where born: Tillicoultry, Clackmannan
Registration number: 468
Registration district: Tillicoultry
Civil parish: Tillicoultry
Town: Tillicoultry
County: Clackmannanshire
Address: 22 Union St
Occupation: Wool Carder
ED: 2
Household schedule number: 143
Line: 5
Roll: CSSCT1891_144
Household Members:
Name Age
James Miller 34
Janet Miller 34 b. Tillicoultry, Clackmannan
Mary Miller 11
James Miller 7
William Miller 4
Maggie Miller 2
Thomas Miller 3 Mo

A tree on Ancestry has

James Miller
Birth 29 APR 1856 in Tillicoultry, Clackmannanshire
Father William Miller and mother Margaret Cunningham

Another tree has

Janet Dowell
Birth 17/03/1857 in Tillicoultry, Clackmannanshire, Scotland
Married James Miller 25 April 1879 at Logie, Perth


Name: Janet Dowell
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Relationship: Daughter
Father's Name: William Dowell
Mother's Name: Mary Dowell
Gender: Female
Where born: Tillicoultry, clackmannansh
Registration number: 468
Registration district: Tillicoultry
Civil parish: Tillicoultry
Town: Tillicoultry
County: Clackmannanshire
Address: Fredk Street
ED: 2
Household schedule number: 239
Line: 4
Roll: CSSCT1861_62
Household Members:
Name Age
William Dowell 32, b. Stirling, Weaver Wool
Mary Dowell 28, b. Clackmannan, clackmannansh
Margaret Dowell 5
Janet Dowell 4
James Dowell 2
Alexander Dowell 4 Mo


rootgatherer Report 10 May 2013 15:03

Although Janet's birth is not coming up on I think some of her siblings are. I suspect this is her mother in 1841 BUT her birth certificate from SCOTLANDSPEOPLE will confirm her mother's maiden surname and if her parents married after 1855 their marriage certificate will confirm their parents names.


Piece: SCT1841/466 Place: Clackmannan -Clackmannanshire Enumeration District: 1
Civil Parish: Clackmannan Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: -
Folio: 1 Page: 3
Address: Sauchie Village

Surname First name(s) Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks

FIFE Alex M 44 Coal Miner Clackmannanshire
FIFE Elspet F 39 Clackmannanshire
FIFE John M 18 Clackmannanshire
FIFE Robt M 10 Clackmannanshire
FIFE James M 5 Clackmannanshire
FIFE Thomas M 3 Clackmannanshire
FIFE Margaret F 10 Clackmannanshire
FIFE Mary F 8 Clackmannanshire
FIFE Elspet F 1 Clackmannanshire


ArgyllGran Report 10 May 2013 15:48

Marriage (per SP):


But she was still calling herself Robertson on 1891 census.
In Scotland a married woman could/can legally use either surname after marriage.


ArgyllGran Report 10 May 2013 15:59

Janet Miller's birth, from SP:

GROS Data: 468/00 0128
28/09/1895, 6am, at 8 Commercial Buildings, Tillicoultry.
Father: James Miller, wool carder.
Mother: Janet Miller, ms Dowell.
Parents' marriage: April 25th 1879, at Logie

Re Clackmannanshire:
"An adjustment was made by the Boundary Commission in 1891. Previously the county contained four parishes: Alloa, Clackmannan, Dollar and Tillicoultry and portions of Logie and Stirling. The Clackmannanshire portion of Stirling parish was transferred to Stirlingshire. The Clackmannan portion of Logie parish was divided into three parts. One was transferred to the Stirlingshire parish of Logie; a second was united with the parish of Alva, which was wholly given to Clackmannanshire; while the third part was absorbed by the parish of Alloa."


ArgyllGran Report 10 May 2013 16:03

Janet Miller (Dowell)'s death:


Viewing the image will give you the exact date and other info.


Julie Report 10 May 2013 19:37

Thank You so so much Rootsgatherer and Argyllgran for all the information it is all great Thank You again :-D :-D


William Report 27 Aug 2014 16:56

I have been researching my own family history and came across this forum/thread whilst searching for information on James Miller born 1856 in Tillicoultry. James is my great grandfathers older brother.

His other siblings are:
Margaret Miller
Jessie Miller
Euphemia Miller
Thomas Miller <- my great-grandfather
Isabella Miller

James' father William Miller (born 19/05/1832) originally came from Blackford, Perthshire (just over the the Ochil Hills from Tillicoultry). He moved to Tillicoultry around 1840 with his parents and siblings.

William's father was James Miller born 02/08/1809 in Blackford, Perthshire. He was a woollen weaver.
William's mother was Janet Eadie (census info suggests she was born in Auchterarder). She married James on 12/02/1832 in Blackford.

James' father was William Miller born 30/12/1781 at Kinpauch (a farm south of Blackford). William and his younger brother James were tenant farmers at Kinpauch and appear on the electoral roles of 1832 (when the right to vote was given to tenant farmers).
James' mother was Isabel Millar (married William on 28/02/1808 in Blackford).

William's father was James Miller born 30/06/1755 at Nether Badenheath (a farm to the south of Blackford, NE of Kinpauch).
William's mother was Mary Drummond. James and Mary married in Edinburgh in 1776 - The Parish Register states that James was a Farmer from Burnside (a farm about 500m west of Kinpauch that still exists), and that Mary was the daughter of John Drummond (from Mill of Drummond). Her father was deceased, and Mary was living in Edinburgh. They moved to Kinpauch after they were married.

James' father was Thomas Miller (probably born around 1730).
James' mother was Jean Guild.
This is about as far back as you can go to research the Miller line as the Parish Church burned down in 1738, taking the records with it.

You can see the location of Burnside and Kinpauch farms on this map (near the bottom right corner):



greyghost Report 28 Aug 2014 10:40

William, welcome to the boards.

Julie last posted on this thread in May 2013 and may not be still watching it. If you click on her name there will be the opportunity to send her a personal message via Genes Reunited. If she still has the same email address as when she was posting, GR will be able to notify her that she has a message.


William Report 28 Aug 2014 11:05

I have already sent a personal message to Julie via the board and we are corresponding via that method. I posted the information on the thread as it may be useful to other people who are searching for the same family (I found this thread via Google whilst searching for James Miller).


rootgatherer Report 28 Aug 2014 11:40

That was very thoughtful of you William.

I'm sure Julie was very pleased to hear from you.

Good luck with your research.