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Margaret Snowden Prest 1918 in Ripon,Yorkshire

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Robin

Robin Report 14 May 2013 15:32

Am trying to trace subject relative last heard of in 1939 when she married Stanley Richardson in Grantham.

Would love to trace and as she was I understand the only child of my Gt Aunt Maude Elizabeth Snowden.

Unsure if Margaret and Stanley did not emigrate as no records National Archives of them passsing away in the UK.

Also would be great if anybody knows whether they had any children?

Only children I have managed to find so far about time of marriage are a couple in Scarboro....however these are to a different Richardson/Prest.

Any suggestions extremely welcome.

Reggie

Reggie Report 14 May 2013 15:48

Did she attend the funerals of her parents?

Her mother died before her father...........

Death

Name: PREST, Stanley
Registration district: Grantham
County: Lincolnshire
Year of registration: 1957
Quarter of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Age at death:65
Volume no: 3B
Page no: 65

Reggie

Reggie Report 14 May 2013 15:50

Her husband's name is/was GEORGE S

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 14 May 2013 16:03

Do you have her exact date of birth please?

Robin

Robin Report 14 May 2013 17:00

Re Probate of her father Stanley Prest in 1957 ,Margaret was named,however am not sure if physically available.....could possibly get copy of Stanley's Death Certificate

Yes George Stanley Richardson was Margaret's husband....understand he sometimes used middle name of Stanley just to confuse matters.

Re Margaret's birth...sorry just the year of 1918 in Ripon.

If helps George was in the RAF at time of marriage serving possibly at RAF Grantham [Spittalgate ?] On marriage certificate does say he was an RAF Accountant.

Am not aware if conscripted or regular or whether he stayed in the RAF after the War.

Many thanks for people's assistance

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 14 May 2013 17:35

Hello Robin, I think if someone was granted probate they'd have to be available to undertake that responsibility?

What year was George Stanley Richardson born?

Robin

Robin Report 14 May 2013 17:41

Thanks for that MarieCeleste......may narrow down to them emigrating after 1957 as that seems only answer........need a flash of inspiration from somewhere



Good luck with avatar !!!!

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 14 May 2013 17:51

Robin, have you ruled out deaths such as this?

England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2006

Name: George Stanley Richardson
Birth Date: 9 Jan 1909
Date of Registration: Mar 1995
Age at Death: 86
Registration district: Grimsby
Inferred County: Lincolnshire
Register Number: C40C
District and Subdistrict: 5481C
Entry number: 233

That's just one of many of that name.

Do you have information to suggest that they did emigrate? Or is it just because you haven't found a death?

Have you checked to see if they had children?

Deaths after 1966 show the actual date of birth (or as supplied by the informant) so knowing their date of birth may help match them to death records. You'd need to order their birth certificates from GRO to find this.

Robin

Robin Report 14 May 2013 17:53

Sorry MarieCeleste missed of George StanleyRichardson birth...according to marriage certificate he seemed to be born in 1916?......do not know where,possible Grantham if local lad who joined the RAF or whether Margaret met him at a dance/socially and he was from another part of the country.

Too many of his name to pin down accuratly ,I have looked at trying to track his family thru his father who was down as Robert Richardson again on marriage certificate,sadly no mention of his mum.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 14 May 2013 17:55

If you search FreeBMD http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl there is the possibility of a son born Scarborough 1945 (won't post details as he may likely still be alive).

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 14 May 2013 17:56

Robin, who were the witnesses at the 1939 marriage, and what was the father Robert's occupation?

Robin

Robin Report 14 May 2013 17:58

I have spoken with National Archives for deaths after 2005 and that did not show up either of them .

As you say MarieCeleste with date of birth would be more sure,hence am not able to oredr Birth certificate till have something more concrete.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 14 May 2013 18:01

Robin, why can't you order the birth certificate to give you something to work from?

This is a good possibility for Stanley/George:

England & Wales, Birth Index, 1916-2005
Name: Stanley G Richardson
Mother's Maiden Surname: Smithson
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1917
Registration district: Grantham
Inferred County: Lincolnshire
Volume Number: 7a
Page Number: 696

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 14 May 2013 18:04

This is Margaret's record:

England & Wales, Birth Index, 1916-2005
Name: Margaret S Prest
Mother's Maiden Surname: Saowden (obviously Snowden mistranscribed)
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1918
Registration district: Ripon
Inferred County: Yorkshire
Volume Number: 9a
Page Number: 83

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 14 May 2013 18:06

Order her birth certificate from GRO http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/
Will cost £9.25.

It's then possible to search death records (in UK or overseas) with name and date of birth.

Robin

Robin Report 14 May 2013 19:07

Hi ...back again after tea.

Yes I saw the birth in Scarboro and actually got a copy of birth certificate but it is a different set of parents although coincidently one a Prest and one a Richardson...the father was also in the RAF,which added to the coincidences.....I wondered if they where brothers, two Richardsons who joined up and married females but I cannot find any record of Margaret having a sister or any sibling for that matter....possible a Prest cousin. The father of that Richardson birth was a Harold Richardson from Filey.

Back to Robert's occupation he was listed as an engineer.

Marriage witnessed by Stanley Prest and a Dennis M.

Robin

Robin Report 14 May 2013 19:20

Your right re Margaret's mother she was listed a Saweden...I concluded Margarets birth 1918 after noting that parents of which Maude [ my Gt Aunt ] gave Margaret the Snowden name as a middle name . Yes getting actual birth date could help.

Re Stanley George's parents...like you I thought it was possibly Smithson [mother],I have them tentaively listed as parents although the father is a Thomas Robert Richardson, which is still possible if he used his middle name as afirst name.

Can get confusing when people use middle names as preferred first names.

Coincidently my Grandmother was Smithson,however no link made with Stanley Geoge's possible mother. My Smithson came from Northallerton not Lincolnshire.

Really appreciate your efforts MarieCeleste

Robin

Robin Report 16 May 2013 21:44

Following advice given on this thread I have sent off for Birth Certificates of both Margaret Snowden Prest 1918 and George Stanley Richardson 1917?

Hopefully when receive may help further in tracking down.

Many thanks to evrybody who replied and tips given,very much appreciated,particularly to MarieCeleste.

Will keep this trhead active and feedback progress....will keep watching for any other respponses to my searching these two relatives .

Cheers Robin



MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 16 May 2013 21:50

You're very welcome indeed Robin!

Yes, it is very confusing when people are known by their middle names but have to hold my hand up as being guilty of doing just that!

Will look out for you posting the details from the birth certificates when you receive them.

Robin

Robin Report 16 May 2013 22:08

Thanks MarieCeleste....will do

Certainly confusing George Stanley Richardson on Marriage Certificate and yet when Margaret's dad died he was referred to as Stanley Georg Richardson on Probate Record.

All part of the fun !!!