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Athur WORLAND

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Unknown

Unknown Report 22 May 2013 17:13

Born 13 Aug 1855 Melbourn Cambs, married Margaret nee Foxhall in Stepney 1877. In 1883 he appeared at Thames Magistrates' Court to answer a summons by his wife seeking protection from him on the grounds that he wished to take the family abroad (she obviously did not wish to go.) Protection was not granted. He had claimed to be the mate on a ship but does not appear in the Master's and Mates lists.
Arthur then disappears, presumably having gone abroad. There is an A Worland on a New York passenger list but how to prove it's him?
Any info on him would be gratefully received

Mike *

Mike * Report 22 May 2013 18:31


Arthur Worland

Estimated Birth Year:abt 1856
Age:21

Spouse Name:Margaret Foxhall
Spouse Age:20

Marriage
Event Date:20 May 1877
Parish:Stepney St Thomas
Borough:Tower Hamlets
Father Name:George Worland
Spouse Father Name:Alfred Foxhall

Register Type:Parish Register
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1881
3 Elizabeth Place

Margaret Worland 24 - seamans wife - Poplar, Middlesex,

Emily Worland 3
Arthur Worland 1
Emily Salisbury 28









Mike *

Mike * Report 22 May 2013 18:44

There is this which looking at the original is for a child travelling with a Mrs Worland




A Worland
Gender:Male
Departure Date:13 Aug 1896
Port of Departure:Liverpool, England

Destination Port:Montreal, Canada
Ship Name:Labradoc
Shipping Line:Dominion Line
Master:J Mc Aulert

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 22 May 2013 19:10

An article in the Morning Post of 20 November 1883 gives the following info (I've summarised).

Margaret Worland of Gerard Street, Poplar had taken out a protection order to stop her husband Arthur , who she had heard was returning home, from taking her goods. She had claimed that when he went away to work he had left her unprovided for and she had to make her own living.

Arthur had called for her to join him (it doesn't say where) but she didn't go and had since then been living with another man. Evidence was called to show that he had left money in the bank for her and the order was annulled.

The article refers to him as a seaman, shame it didn't say where he'd been.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 23 May 2013 17:21

pm from Stanley

Many thanks for that. There is an A Worland that left Liverpool for New York about 13 years later but cannot help feeling if doubtful he would have left it that long. Of course, don't know what the "A" stands for ...

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The 1896 departure is, as Mike states above, a child (under 12) travelling with his mother and family so not yours.

The problem is, UK departure lists only start from 1890 so he quite possibly left before then and wasn't recorded. Passenger arrivals in places like Australia, Canada and the US are available from much earlier dates on-line but not seeing him on then, seaman can also be very elusive as opposed to people emigrating.

Of course, Arthur may have gone to a country where there are no available records.

I did come across this death record, age is a few years out. I can't find anyone corresponding to it on census records:

England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2006

Name: Arthur Worland
Birth Date: abt 1852
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1938
Age at Death: 86
Registration District: Cambridge
Inferred County: Cambridgeshire
Volume: 3b
Page: 542

Unknown

Unknown Report 23 May 2013 18:13

My Arthur was born on 13 Aug 1855 so that one looks not to be a contender. All your comments are absolutely right. Perhaps he's another one there will never be a conclusion to ...

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 23 May 2013 18:18

Stanley, bear in mind that the age on a death record is only as good as the informant's knowledge or memory .....

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 23 May 2013 18:44

Deaths Jun 1907 (>99%)
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WORLAND Sarah 88 W. Ham 4a 47

(If above is his Mother, her Burial on below link)


https://www.deceasedonline.com/servlet/GSDOSearch

Chris :)


(below from All Saints Melbourn. Parish cd)

Burial
1881 30 Aug Worland George otp 65

Baptism
1867 21 July Worland Arthur son of George & Sarah otp Fishmonger
(also same time, Charles)

Unknown

Unknown Report 23 May 2013 19:26

Thanks to Chris - all this added/checked against what we know

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 23 May 2013 19:43

(might be worth getting Death Cert. above, nothing else coming up!)

Chris :)