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Help with the Weatherhead family please.

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Sheila

Sheila Report 24 May 2013 13:42

Hello All, I have tried with this search some time ago and wasn't very successful,so I thought maybe I would be lucky this time with the help of all the good folks on this site.
I have a David Weatherhead born in South Shields in 1876,I know his mother and father and siblings...but am stumped as to who he married and where he got to.

On the 1891 census he is with a wife Jane in a lodging house in South Shields Durham.I cant find a marriage for them nor can I find them together in 1911 census.

I have found one David Weatherhead that could be mine in Sunderland (1911) but no Jane with him...I cant find a death for Jane or David.And no children.

Can anyone spot them please?


Many thanks

Sheila

Reggie

Reggie Report 24 May 2013 13:47

For INFO

1901 census


Person: WEATHERHEAD, David Address: 4, Mrs Reeds Common Lodging House, Andersons Lane, South Shields

WILSON, Richard Boarder Widower M 65 1836 Dock Labourer
Seaton Delaval, Northumberland VIEW
ROBINSON, Richard Boarder Single M 46 1855 Dock Labourer
Gateshead, Durham VIEW
ROBINSON, John Boarder Single M 31 1870 Dock Labourer
Sunderland, Durham VIEW
PATTON, David Boarder Single M 44 1857 Dock Labourer
South Shields, Durham VIEW
JUDD, Michael Boarder Single M 38 1863 Dock Labourer
Newcastle on Tyne VIEW
WILSON, James Boarder Single M 36 1865 Dock Labourer
Gateshead, Durham VIEW
REAY, John Boarder Single M 34 1867 Dock Labourer
London VIEW
TELFORD, Duglass Husband Married M 50 1851 Coal Hewer
Blind Seaton Delaval, Northumberland VIEW
TELFORD, Annie Wife Married F 49 1852
Newcastle on Tyne VIEW
WEATHERHEAD, David Husband Married M 27 1874 Ship Yard Labourer
So Shields, Durham VIEW
WEATHERHEAD, Jane Wife Married F 21 1880
Sunderland, Durham VIEW
CUNNINGHAM, William Husband Married M 46 1855 Dock Labourer
Bradford, Yorkshire VIEW
CUNNINGHAM, Kate Wife Married F 47 1854
Bradford, Yorkshire VIEW
CUNNINGHAM, Thomas Son M 13 1888
Bradford, Yorkshire VIEW
BELL, William Husband Married M 42 1859 Lodging House Deputy
So Shields, Durham VIEW
BELL, Jane Wife Married F 36 1865
So Shields, Durham VIEW
MCDERMOTT, Michael Boarder Single M 27 1874 Dock Yard Labourer
So Shields, Durham VIEW
FOLEY, Patrick Boarder Single M 29 1872 Dock Yard Labourer
So Shields, Durham VIEW
CARBETT, James Boarder Single M 40 1861 Dock Yard Labourer
Ireland Dublin VIEW
GRAY, Richard Boarder Single M 51 1850 Dock Yard Labourer
No Shields, Northumberland VIEW
GIBSON, Thomas Boarder Single M 28 1873 Dock Yard Labourer
So Shields, Durham VIEW
HENDERSON, Peter Boarder Single M 21 1880 Dock Yard Labourer
Sunderland, Durham VIEW
MADDAN, John Boarder Single M 55 1846 Dock Yard Labourer
Ireland VIEW
BROWN, Barnard Boarder Single M 25 1876 Dock Labourer
Gateshead, Durham VIEW Piece: 4728 Folio: 125 Page: 15 Registration District: South Shields Civil Parish: South Shields

Maddie

Maddie Report 24 May 2013 13:47

1901
WILSON, Richard Boarder Widower M 65 1836 Dock Labourer
Seaton Delaval, Northumberland VIEW
ROBINSON, Richard Boarder Single M 46 1855 Dock Labourer
Gateshead, Durham VIEW
ROBINSON, John Boarder Single M 31 1870 Dock Labourer
Sunderland, Durham VIEW
PATTON, David Boarder Single M 44 1857 Dock Labourer
South Shields, Durham VIEW
JUDD, Michael Boarder Single M 38 1863 Dock Labourer
Newcastle on Tyne VIEW
WILSON, James Boarder Single M 36 1865 Dock Labourer
Gateshead, Durham VIEW
REAY, John Boarder Single M 34 1867 Dock Labourer
London VIEW
TELFORD, Duglass Husband Married M 50 1851 Coal Hewer
Blind Seaton Delaval, Northumberland VIEW
TELFORD, Annie Wife Married F 49 1852
Newcastle on Tyne VIEW
WEATHERHEAD, David Husband Married M 27 1874 Ship Yard Labourer
So Shields, Durham VIEW
WEATHERHEAD, Jane Wife Married F 21 1880
Sunderland, Durham VIEW
CUNNINGHAM, William Husband Married M 46 1855 Dock Labourer
Bradford, Yorkshire VIEW
CUNNINGHAM, Kate Wife Married F 47 1854
Bradford, Yorkshire VIEW
CUNNINGHAM, Thomas Son M 13 1888
Bradford, Yorkshire VIEW
BELL, William Husband Married M 42 1859 Lodging House Deputy
So Shields, Durham VIEW
BELL, Jane Wife Married F 36 1865
So Shields, Durham VIEW
MCDERMOTT, Michael Boarder Single M 27 1874 Dock Yard Labourer
So Shields, Durham VIEW
FOLEY, Patrick Boarder Single M 29 1872 Dock Yard Labourer
So Shields, Durham VIEW
CARBETT, James Boarder Single M 40 1861 Dock Yard Labourer
Ireland Dublin VIEW
GRAY, Richard Boarder Single M 51 1850 Dock Yard Labourer
No Shields, Northumberland VIEW
GIBSON, Thomas Boarder Single M 28 1873 Dock Yard Labourer
So Shields, Durham VIEW
HENDERSON, Peter Boarder Single M 21 1880 Dock Yard Labourer
Sunderland, Durham VIEW
MADDAN, John Boarder Single M 55 1846 Dock Yard Labourer
Ireland VIEW
BROWN, Barnard Boarder Single M 25 1876 Dock Labourer
Gateshead, Durham VIEW

Piece: 4728

Folio: 125

Page: 15

Registration District: South Shields

Civil Parish: South Shields

Municipal Borough:

Address: 4, Mrs Reeds Common Lodging House, Andersons Lane, South Shields

County: Durham

Reggie

Reggie Report 24 May 2013 13:48

Saying that they were married is no proof that they were...................

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 24 May 2013 13:50

If he was born in 1876 then I doubt that he had a wife in 1891 (although I know it's possible).

Where exactly were they in 1891 as I can't find them on Findmypast? If you could give the address it would be helpful.

I have to go out shortly but someone else may be able to help.

EDIT - I see it was the 1901 census where they were together.

Kath. x

Reggie

Reggie Report 24 May 2013 13:50

How did you work back to David?

Reggie

Reggie Report 24 May 2013 13:52

I suspect that 1891 should read 1901............!!

Reggie

Reggie Report 24 May 2013 13:54

His YOB is different on every census...not unusual, of course

1891 census

Person: WEATHERHEAD, David Address: 32, Thames Street, Westoe, South Shields


WEATHERHEAD, David Head Widower M 43 1848 Shoemaker
Coldstream, Scotland VIEW
WEATHERHEAD, Sarah Daughter Single F 19 1872 Hawker General
South Shields, Co Durham VIEW
WEATHERHEAD, Mary Ann Daughter Single F 17 1874 General Servant
South Shields, Co Durham VIEW
WEATHERHEAD, David Son M 18 1873 Message Boy
South Shields, Co Durham VIEW
WEATHERHEAD, Kitty Daughter F 13 1878 Scholar
South Shields, Co Durham VIEW
WEATHERHEAD, John Son M 10 1881 Scholar
South Shields, Co Durham

EDIT

Checked image..........age is 15.

Maddie

Maddie Report 24 May 2013 13:55

1891 /??????????
WEATHERHEAD, David Inmate M 13 1878 Inmate Under Detention
Cheshire VIEW

Piece: 4144

Folio: 119

Page: 4

Registration District: Sunderland

Civil Parish: Sunderland

Municipal Borough: Sunderland

Address: Sunderland

County: Durham

Reggie

Reggie Report 24 May 2013 13:57

Please post the 1911 you think is relevant...............

Reggie

Reggie Report 24 May 2013 13:57

Births Dec 1876 (>99%)
Weatherhead David S. Shields 10a 704

Reggie

Reggie Report 24 May 2013 13:58

Have you checked emigration records?

Maddie

Maddie Report 24 May 2013 13:59

?????????????

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915 about David Weatherhead
Name: David Weatherhead
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1906
Age at Death: 28
Registration District: South Shields
Inferred County: Durham
Volume: 10a
Page: 476

Sheila

Sheila Report 24 May 2013 14:09

Sorry Reggie, Maddie, and Kath you are right it was the 1901 census not the 1891.

You do have the right David Weatherhead that I am searching for.

So Maddie if this one is mine he must have been a naughty boy...I have his Army Papers from find my past and it says his conduct while serving was BAD...so this could well be him
Will I find this on Findmypast...I dont have a sub for Ancestry.

And thank you for all the help that you are all giving me.

Regards
Sheila

Sheila

Sheila Report 24 May 2013 14:18

1911

NO wonder I cant find him,this one is in SOUTHAMPTON in a ship yard doing the same kind work in the 1901..his birth place is different but I wondered if it could be him.

My searching is rubbish.......any chance of a few lessons for this useless woman

Regards

Sheila

Sheila

Sheila Report 24 May 2013 14:21

1911 census

GOULDING, Albert Head Married M 35 1876 Engineman Pump Appleby Westmoreland VIEW
GOULDING, Beatrice Emma Wife Married10 years F 26 1885 Devonport Devonshire VIEW
GOULDING, Albert Son Single M 7 1904 School Devonport Devonshire VIEW
GOULDING, Robert Charles Son M 2 1909 Swansea South Wales VIEW
WEATHERHEAD, David Boarder Single M 32 1879 Ship Platers Helper Birkenhead Cheshire VIEW
HARRISON, George Boarder Single M 22 1889 Ship Platers Helper Grangetown Yorkshire

Reggie

Reggie Report 24 May 2013 14:26

That 1911 is the one posted for 1891 'in detention'

'Your' David was at home in 1891.............as posted above

You now refer to Army papers...what were his dates of service?

And - sorry to ask - but are you sure the Army papers relate to the right David? Who do they name as his Next of Kin?

Maddie

Maddie Report 24 May 2013 14:35

is this the one referred t
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First name(s): David

Last name: WEATHERHEAD

Calculated year of birth: 1878

Parish of birth: St Hilda

Town of birth: Soshields

County of birth: Durham

Age at attestation: 21 years 3 months

Attestation date: 18 October 1899

Attestation corps: Durham Light Infantry

Attestation soldier number: 6923

Discharge rank:

Discharge corps:

Discharge soldier number:

The National Archives reference: WO97

There are 6 images available for this soldier


including above there are also these
WEATHERHEAD David 1878 Soshields, Durham Durham Light Infantry WO97 Chelsea VIEW VIEW
WEATHERHEAD David 1879 Newcastle, Durham Durham Light Infantry - 68th & 106th Foot WO96 Militia VIEW VIEW
WEATHERHEAD David 1879 Liverpool, Lancashire Durham Light Infantry - 68th & 106th Foot WO96 Militia VIEW VIEW
WEATHERHEAD David 1883 Coldstream, Berwickshire King's Own Scottish Borderers - 25th Foot

Sheila

Sheila Report 24 May 2013 14:37

Yes I do think I have the right army papers I only found them to day.

It says his next of kin is David Weatherhead of 12 Foster Street South Shields.

I will have to go back and re read them to look for dates


Reggie

Reggie Report 24 May 2013 14:40

As he named his father as NOK................he was either unmarried......or widowed.

No sign anywhere of a marriage......so I suspect the former would apply