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Eillen Craik b1907 Missing in 1911 Census

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Martin Report 27 May 2013 08:57

The 1911 Census lists Ada Catherine Craik (wife 37), Alex John Brodie Craik (son 12), Margaret Annie Craik (Dau 11) and Mathew James Craik (son 6) in West Derby.
Ada's youngest daughter, Eileen Ada Isobel Craik, b Feb 1907 Age 4 is missing from the 1911 Census record. Also missing is Mathew's twin brother William Sydney Craik b Jun 1904 age 6.

I'm hoping that someone can help me locate them. It's strange that two young children do not appear in the Census.
Thanks in advance


MarieCeleste Report 27 May 2013 09:02

The 1911 does say Ada had 5 children, all still alive. Husband seems to be a Ship's Steward from the image:

CRAIK, Ada Catherine Wife Married13 years F 37 1874 Ormskirk Lan
CRAIK, Alex John Brodie Son M 12 1899 School Birkenhead Ches
CRAIK, Margaret Annie Daughter F 11 1900 School Egremont Ches
CRAIK, Mathew James Son M 6 1905 Litherland Lan

RG number: RG14 Piece: 22427
Reference: RG14PN22427 RG78PN1322 RD455 SD5 ED21 SN254
Registration District: West Derby
Sub District: Bootle
Enumeration District: 21
Parish: Bootle cum Linacre

Address: 274 Knowsley Road Bootle County: Lancashire


MarieCeleste Report 27 May 2013 09:05

Have you checked Ada Catherine's parents just in case they are staying there and surname mis-recorded?


Gins Report 27 May 2013 09:06

What about this one

1911 England Census
Name: Sidney Craik
Age in 1911: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1905
Relation to Head: Patient
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Bootle, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Bootle cum Linacre
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address: Corporation Hospital, Bootle Lancs
Occupation: School
Registration District: West Derby
Registration District Number: 455
Sub-registration District: Bootle
ED, institution, or vessel: 31
Piece: 22437

Added: Yes this must be your boy as thre are no other births listed to prove an alternative Sidney


PricklyHolly Report 27 May 2013 09:15

FMP version...

Household transcription
1911 census

Person: CRAIK, Sidney
Institution: Linacre Lane Infectious Diseases Hospital

CRAIK, Sidney Patient M 6 1905 School Lancashire Bootle VIEW
RG number: RG14
Piece: 22437
Reference: RG14PN22437 RG78PN1322 RD455 SD5 ED31 SN1
Registration District: West Derby
Sub District: Bootle
Enumeration District: 31
Parish: Bootle cum Linacre
Address: Linacre Lane Bootle Lancashire
County: Lancashire

There does not appear to be a birth registered for a Sidney/Sydney Craik between 1902 and 1910 so this might very well be him.


Reggie Report 27 May 2013 09:48

Have you tried searching using only forename and birth info?

And using forename other than the first one?


Susan Report 27 May 2013 09:54

I wonder if this is her .

Ontario, Canada, Marriages, 1801-1928
Birth, Marriage & Death
View Image
PreviewName: E A I Craik
Marriage County or District: Cochrane

Name: E A I Craik
Spouse: Alfred Sanders
Mother: Ada Catharine Dawey
Father: Alexander Christopher Craik

It looks like the Mother has remarried,did this family go to Canada
Sorry but my Ancestry will not allow me to look further at the marriage.

Mike *

Mike * Report 27 May 2013 10:01

Mother not re-married. Dowey was her maiden name

Marriages Dec 1897

Craik Alexander - Birkenhead 8a 813
Dowey Ada Catherine - Birkenhead 8a 813

Ada Catherine `Kate` Dowey
Birth Jun 12 1873 inDerby Street, Ormskirk, Lancaster, England
Death - Canada

Mike *

Mike * Report 27 May 2013 10:05

Ada Craik

Birth Date:abt 1874
Departure Date:22 Apr 1927

Port of Departure:Liverpool, England
Destination Port:Quebec, Canada
Ship Name:Montcalm

Shipping Line:Canadian Pacific Railway
Official Number:145903
Master:Captain Hamilton

also travelling with her were Eileen Craik and William Dowey


Susan Report 27 May 2013 10:07

Possible passage details for Eileen.

UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960
about Eileen Craik Name: Eileen Craik
Gender: Female
Age: 19
Birth Date: abt 1908
Departure Date: 22 Apr 1927
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Destination Port: Quebec, Canada
Ship Name: Montcalm
Search Ship Database: Search the 'Montcalm' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: Canadian Pacific Railway
Official Number: 145903
Master: Captain Hamilton

Traveling with her is Ada Craik 53 years old Housekeeper.
Both were living at 12 Knowley Rd ,Ormskirk.

I don't know if they are yours ;-)


Adeline Report 27 May 2013 10:08

Her death shown on Ancestry trees as 1970 in Johannesburg.


Susan Report 27 May 2013 10:12

Snap Mike .

Thankyou looks like Mother and Dau went to Canada then .

I wonder what happened to Ada's hubby :-|


Gins Report 27 May 2013 10:15

Full marriage details

Ontario, Canada, Marriages, 1801-1928
about E A I Craik Name: E A I Craik
Birth Place: England
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1907
Father Name: Alexander Christopher Craik
Mother Name: Ada Catharine Dawey
Spouse Name: Alfred Sanders
Spouse's Age: 28
Spouse Birth Year: abt 1900
Spouse Birth Place: London, England
Spouse Father Name: Charles Sanders
Spouse Mother Name: Annie Ray
Marriage Date: 17 Nov 1928
Marriage County or District: Cochrane

Still cant find her in 1911 though


Susan Report 27 May 2013 10:16

Just for the info

Liverpool, England, Baptisms, 1813-1906
about Alexander Christopher Craik Name: Alexander Christopher Craik
Birth Date: 16 Sep 1871
Baptism Date: 23 Oct 1871
Parish: Liverpool, St Peter
Father's Name: John Craik
Mother's Name: Margaret Craik
Reference Number: 283 PET/2/67


Gins Report 27 May 2013 10:17

Moms death

Web: International, Find A Grave Index
about Ada Catherine Dowey Craik Name: Ada Catherine Dowey Craik
Birth Date: 1873
Age at Death: 76
Death Date: 1949
Burial Place: Perth, Ontario, Canada


LadyKira Report 27 May 2013 10:21

Looks like Alex JB also joined the merchant navy.

Merchant Navy Seamen 1835-1941

Last name: CRAIK
First names: Alexander John Brodie
Day of birth: 15
Month of birth: July
Year of birth: 1898
Place of birth: Birkenhead
County/country of birth: Cheshire
Card type: CR10
Discharge number: 864159
Identity certificate no.: 864402
Series: BT350
Date range: 1918-1921
Piece number:


Flip Report 27 May 2013 10:22

According to the Canadian immigration record, they were going to join Mr W S Craik of 6th Avenue, Timmins, Ontario. There relative in England was Mrs Deakinson (Ada's sister) of 1E Knowsley Road, Ormskirk. Neither of them had been to Canada before.

William Dowey was her nephew, he was going to W S Craik, his cousin. However, he states aunt Mrs Dickinson as the England relative - of Knowsley Road.


Gins Report 27 May 2013 10:24

Birth: 1871
Death: 1914

husband of Ada C Dowey 1873-1949

Elmwood Cemetery
Ontario, Canada
Plot: d1-82

Created by: kerteau
Record added: Jan 11, 2010
Find A Grave Memorial# 46582866


Flip Report 27 May 2013 10:51

William Sydney Craik
Gender: Male
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1904
Birth Place: Liverpool, England
Age: 19 Years 10 Months
Date of Arrival: May 1924
Port of Arrival: Quebec
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Ship Name: Montcalm

Was going to join his brother A J B Craik - provisional police, Cobalt. Gave relative in England as his mother, address 14 Liscard Road, Seacombe Cheshire.


Flip Report 27 May 2013 10:59

Matthew James Craik
Gender: Male
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1904
Birth Place: Litherland, England
Age: 19 Years 9 Months
Date of Arrival: May 1924
Port of Arrival: Quebec
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Ship Name: Montcalm

Also going to his brother Alexander Craik, Ontario Provisional Police. Oher deails as for William Sydney. Their fares were paid for by brother Alexander.