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ablemable

ablemable Report 27 May 2013 18:07

What could be the reason when someone has birth record, and then nothing. No marriage record, no death record! I have even checked passport applications and passenger lists. Nothing

Stumped, again

Marie

Londonbelle

Londonbelle Report 27 May 2013 18:10

Perhaps they were adopted......

If not, perhaps you might like to give some details so that we can take a look for you?

Margee

Margee Report 27 May 2013 18:34

Very often it's a case of the father dying, mother remarrying and the child taking the stepfather's name.

ablemable

ablemable Report 27 May 2013 20:25

Thank you for replies, but this is not the case. No parental death and no adoption, no family break-up. There 2 people are from the same family that just seem to have disappeared. They are both no 1911 census and then nothing. Eliza 2nd oldest and Sarah the 4th of 8 children. I have found the other 6. Family name Tarpey, from Manchester. Are there any other records that I could check?

M xx :-(

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 27 May 2013 20:29

Relates to this thread:
http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1324773

patchem

patchem Report 27 May 2013 20:30

Could you copy over that 1911 census, please?

Added:
The 1911 census posted on that thread does not have those 2 daughters as 2nd and 4th oldest. Which is accurate?
Thanks

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 27 May 2013 20:32

It's on the other thread Patchem, if that helps :-)

patchem

patchem Report 27 May 2013 20:35

This is ages in 1911;
James Tarpey 10
Sarah Ellen Tarpey 8
John Tarpey 5
Leo Tarpey 2
Eliza Tarpey 5

Inky1

Inky1 Report 27 May 2013 20:42

I assume that you have searched with all the variations of that surname?

One of my lines is Turpie, and I have found a number of errors with that. They were earlier than yours - ie census and parish records.

Records available online may have been correctly transcribed by individuals. But they may have been produced using OCR software. And that is unlikely to produce 100% accuracy, especially when many of the source images are a bit (or very) fuzzy.

Choccy

Choccy Report 27 May 2013 20:51



Manchester School Registers 1870-1916

Forename: Sarah
Surname: Tarpey

Date of Birth Day: 18
Date of Birth Month: 2
Date of Birth Year: 1903

Name of Parent or Guardian: James
Residence:
Place: Manchester
County: Lancashire
Locality of Record: Manchester Birley St School
Date of Admission: 1916
Date Left School:
Remarks:
Title of Records: Admission Register Girls
Film: M 66 / 11
Date Range: 1914 - 1925
Number: 8
Start Year: 1913
End Year: 1913
School Name: Birley Street Central
Department: Senior Girls
Folio: 10
Index Number:
Previous School:
Record source: Manchester School Admissions Registers - Transcript
Data provider: Manchester Archives


Father - James Tarpey
Address - 93 Angel Street, and then moved to Rochdale Road

Started at the school on 11th April 1916, left on the 21st April 1916 and returned to St Michaels School

Choccy

Choccy Report 27 May 2013 20:57




England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2006

Name: Sarah Ellen Tarpy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Birth Date: 18 Feb 1903
Date of Registration: Aug 1987
Age at Death: 84
Registration District: Manchester
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 38
Page: 1180


Choccy

Choccy Report 27 May 2013 21:38



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England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915

Name: Eliza Tarpey
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1910
Registration District: Manchester
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 8d
Page: 244



England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915

Name: Eliza Tarpey
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1910
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1911
Age at Death: 1
Registration District: Chorlton
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 8c
Page: 1200


ablemable

ablemable Report 28 May 2013 12:22

Hi Choccy , thank you for your help. Eliza mentioned above cannot be the same person, as my Eliza was 5 years old on the census.

Is there anywhere else I can search

:-)

ablemable

ablemable Report 28 May 2013 12:22

Hi Choccy , thank you for your help. Eliza mentioned above cannot be the same person, as my Eliza was 5 years old on the census.

Is there anywhere else I can search

:-)

ablemable

ablemable Report 28 May 2013 12:27

Hi Inky, thank you for your reply, I have checked all variations of spellings, and found nothing!!!!!!!!!!
I have found a passenger list with a Sarah Tarpey bound for Tangier, but the home address doesn't look right. i know mt family never moved from Manchester but this shows up as Bury.

M xx

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patchem

patchem Report 28 May 2013 23:16

Although Eliza is down as '5' on the census, she is the last child listed, after the 2 year old.
Have you found a birth for her in 1905/1906, as that 1910 birth posted looks the most likely, implying that the age on the census is incorrect.

patchem

patchem Report 28 May 2013 23:24

Just for info:
Baptism: 15 Mar 1903 St William, Manchester, Lancashire, England
Sara Helena Tarpey - filia Jacobi Tarpey & Mariae Helenae (formerly Traynor)
Born: 18 Feb 1903
Abode: 34 Angel St.
Godparents: Jacobo Cronshaw; Sara Traynor
Baptised by: Jacobo Corkery
Source: Original Register at Lancashire Archives Preston

ablemable

ablemable Report 29 May 2013 00:19

Hi Patchem, yes it looks like you are correct, this only listing for Eliza.
Thank you for your help. Is there a way of checking school records so I can follow Sarah. Still new at all this. xx

PatinCyprus

PatinCyprus Report 29 May 2013 10:06

Think 1911 census should say 5 months, so death looks very like her. This looks like her birth.

Eliza Tarpey

Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1910

Registration District:Manchester
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 8d
Page: 244

ablemable

ablemable Report 29 May 2013 10:35

Yes PatinCyprus I think it is, I did think it strange to have 2 children of almost the same age, i.e one at 5 1/2 and one at 5. I didn't think about it being 5 months.

Still getting nowhere with my Sarah though :-(

Ho hum still have so much to learn

M xx