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Rose Mason (nee Hayhow B.1912 - 1985

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Mumsy

Mumsy Report 8 Jun 2013 19:16

I am looking for any relatives of the above, as I have just found out she is my late fathers half sister, who we did not know existed. I think she had a daughter Janet Rose Mason b.1939 d,2008. any help would be appreciated.

Astra

Astra Report 8 Jun 2013 19:30

Is this her parents marriage

Marriages Sep 1891 (>99%)
Cole Julia Camberwell 1d 1513
Hayhow Percy Camberwell 1d 1513

Mike *

Mike * Report 8 Jun 2013 19:30

Is this her birth ?


Births Jun 1912
HAYHOW Rose D - Cole - Camberwell 1d 1498

Mumsy

Mumsy Report 8 Jun 2013 19:39

yes they are all correct, just trying to see if there are any living relatives out there. :-)

Fredk

Fredk Report 8 Jun 2013 19:39

Just for information

1911 Census Household Record
Household information
Address 22 Chester Buildings George Street Camberwell
Parish Camberwell
Town Camberwell
Type of Building Flats
Number of Rooms 3
Inhabited Y
Reference RG14PN2489 RG78PN84 RD27 SD3 ED5 SN55
Administrative County London
Registration District Camberwell
Registration Sub District Camberwell North
Enumeration District 5
Householder 1
Name Percy Hayhow
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Condition / Years Married Married
Gender M
Age 41
Estimated Year of Birth 1870
Occupation Tramway Motor Man
Employed Y
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Leyton Essex
Nationality British
Householder 2
Name Julia Hayhow
Relationship to Head of Household Wife
Condition / Years Married Married / 20 Years
Total Children Born Alive 7
Children Still Living 7
Gender F
Age 40
Estimated Year of Birth 1871
Employed N
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Haggerston London
Householder 3
Name Jessie Hayhow
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Condition / Years Married Single
Gender F
Age 18
Estimated Year of Birth 1893
Occupation Clerk-Typist
Employed Y
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Peckham London
Householder 4
Name Charles Hayhow
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Condition / Years Married Single
Gender M
Age 16
Estimated Year of Birth 1895
Occupation Restaurant In Kitchen
Employed Y
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Camberwell London
Householder 5
Name Florence Hayhow
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Gender F
Age 10
Estimated Year of Birth 1901
Occupation School
Employed Y
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Camberwell London
Householder 6
Name Julia Hayhow
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Gender F
Age 8
Estimated Year of Birth 1903
Occupation Juvenile
Employed N
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Camberwell London
Householder 7
Name Henry Hayhow
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Gender M
Age 5
Estimated Year of Birth 1906
Occupation Juvenile
Employed N
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Camberwell London
Householder 8
Name Arthur Hayhow
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Gender M
Age 3
Estimated Year of Birth 1908
Occupation Juvenile
Employed N
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Camberwell London
Householder 9
Name James Hayhow
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Gender M
Age 1
Estimated Year of Birth 1910
Occupation Juvenile
Employed N
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Camberwell London

Fredk

Fredk Report 8 Jun 2013 21:14

Do your father and Rose have the same mother or father

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 8 Jun 2013 21:27

Look in 'search all trees'

Buy the 2009 death cert for informant's details

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 8 Jun 2013 21:30

Marriages Sep 1933 (>99%)
Hayhow Rose D Mason Lambeth 1d 494
Mason Frank A Hay[bh]ow Lambeth 1d 49

There is another Mason/Hayhow birth on freebmd

Who registered the 1985 death?

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 8 Jun 2013 21:35

Death

Name: MASON, Geoffrey Frank
Registration district: South Dorset
County: Dorset
Year of registration: 2000
Month of registration: July
Date of Birth:7 November 1941
District no: 4331C
Reg no: C7D
Ent no: 148
DOR: 700

Mumsy

Mumsy Report 8 Jun 2013 22:26

They have the same father

Flip

Flip Report 8 Jun 2013 22:49

Isn't she the full sister of the 1911 family posted, if Percy married Julia Cole? Or am I missing something and they are all your father's half siblings?

Fredk

Fredk Report 9 Jun 2013 08:04

Flip,

My thoughts as well.

Mumsy

Mumsy Report 9 Jun 2013 09:45

I don't know who registered the 1985 death, I only found out about Rose on Ancestry which I only joined a couple of weeks ago, as she was born in 1912 she wouldn't have been on the 1911 , she and percy were on a couple of trees on that site the tree owner is a cath moore who might be a granddaughter I have sent a message, but she might be off the site for a while, we were told dad was the only child, he never talked about his family, I really would like to know why he left Julia for my nan Maud Collett.

patchem

patchem Report 9 Jun 2013 09:54

When was your Father born?
Thank-you

Added:
You have Maud Collett, 1880, in your tree. Had she been married previously before she gave birth to your Father?

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 9 Jun 2013 09:58

Hello Mumsy, did Percy actually marry Maud? If so, what was his marital status on their marriage certificate?

I presume you have all the info of his first marriage?

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921

Name: Percy Hayhow - tram driver
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871
Age: 20
Spouse Name: Julia Cole
Spouse Age: 21
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 22 Aug 1891
Parish: Peckham St Luke
Borough: Southwark
Father Name: Henry Hayhow - (deceased) dairyman
Spouse Father Name: Charles Cole - (deceased) - fishmonger
Register Type: Parish Register

Neither previously married. Both give address as 36 Astbury Road.

Witnesses: Charles Henry Cole and Florence Cole

patchem

patchem Report 9 Jun 2013 10:05

Births Mar 1915
Hayhow Robert A Collett Camberwell 1d See D'1921
Births Dec 1921
Hayhow Robert A Collett Camberwell 1d 1388

Mumsy

Mumsy Report 9 Jun 2013 10:29

dad was born 21.2,1915 no as far as I know she didn't marry percy she did marry when percy died

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 9 Jun 2013 10:31

Any thoughts on the INFO about Rose's possible son?

If you buy the death cert you'll find out informant's details......................

As for why your grandfather left his wife with all those children................he'd found someone else and set up home with her

Flip

Flip Report 9 Jun 2013 10:33

I don't think Julia died until much later, and there is no sign of a divorce on the national archives. This is most likely for Julia's death:

Julia Hayhow
Birth Date: abt 1871
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1954
Age at Death: 83
Registration District: Totnes
Inferred County: Devon
Volume: 7a
Page: 950

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 9 Jun 2013 10:34

I know this has already been posted, but, I'm sorry, I can't decipher that version.
(I think it comes from GR)

1911 census


Person: HAYHOW, Julia Address: 22 Chester Buildings George Street


HAYHOW, Percy Head Married M 41 1870 Tramway Motor Man Leyton Essex VIEW
HAYHOW, Julia Wife Married20 years F 40 1871 Haggerston London VIEW
HAYHOW, Jessie Daughter Single F 18 1893 Clerk-Typist Peckham London VIEW
HAYHOW, Charles Son Single M 16 1895 Restaurant In Kitchen Camberwell London VIEW
HAYHOW, Florence Daughter F 10 1901 School Camberwell London VIEW
HAYHOW, Julia Daughter F 8 1903 Camberwell London VIEW
HAYHOW, Henry Son M 5 1906 Camberwell London VIEW
HAYHOW, Arthur Son M 3 1908 Camberwell London VIEW
HAYHOW, James Son M 1 1910 Camberwell London VIEW


Deaths Mar 1954 (>99%)
Hayhow Julia 83 Totnes 7a 950