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Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 10 Jun 2013 09:58

Hi, I have not been on here for help for some long time and I have become a bit rusty.
I am looking for a marriage in 1838 between Richard William Hales and one of 4 ladies (Mary Nash, Amelia Asplin, Jane Helen Clement and Mary Barratt). I only have access to Findmypast and FreeBMD at present, so was wondering if anyone would be kind enough to help me with the correct partner of Richard William Hales.
The marriage was in Sept qtr of 1838 in Stepney.
My thanks in advance for anyone who can help it would be greatly appreciated.
Kind regards Jackie :-)

Reggie

Reggie Report 10 Jun 2013 10:02

The name of his wife will be on the census following the marriage. FMP has all censuses

How did you work back to this man?

When and where was he born?

EDIT

Found him with wife in 1841........but won't deprive you of the pleasure of finding them yourself

Maddie

Maddie Report 10 Jun 2013 10:05


London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Richard William Hales
Name: Richard William Hales
Age: Full Age
Spouse Name: Jane Helen Clement
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 1 Sep 1838
Parish: Limehouse St Anne
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Father Name: Richard Hales
Spouse Father Name: Thomas Clement
Register Type: Parish Register

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Maddie

Maddie Report 10 Jun 2013 10:10

1851 ?????
daughter born in Limehouse


1851 England Census about Richard W Hales
Name: Richard W Hales
Age: 38
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1813
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Jane E Hales
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Harwich, Essex, England

Civil Parish: New Windsor with Dedworth
Ecclesiastical parish: Windsor St John
County/Island: Berkshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration District: Windsor
Sub-registration District: Egham
ED, institution, or vessel: 6e
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 161
Piece: 1695
Folio: 399
Page Number: 32
Household Members:
Name Age
Richard W Hales 38
Jane E Hales 33
May I Hales 11
Emma Gallin 24

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 10 Jun 2013 10:27

Thankyou so much for your help Reggie and Maddie, it is appreciated and no doubt I will have a few more queries shortly :-). I have had family problems for some time and now trying to get back on track.
Thankyou again
Kind regards
Jackie

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 10 Jun 2013 10:28

Richard appears with a different wife in the 1861 census......

1861 England Census
about Richard Hales Name: Richard Hales
Age: 49
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1812
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Lydia Hales
Mother's Name: Margaret Wood
Gender: Male
Where born: Harwich, Essex, England

Civil Parish: Stepney
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration District: Mile End Old Town
Sub-registration District: Mile End Old Town Eastern
ED, institution, or vessel: 20
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 77
Piece: 296
Folio: 72
Page Number: 15
Household Members: Name Age
Richard Hales 49 (Officer Exports Inland Revenue)
Lydia Hales 51
Mary Hales 21

These people are actually living in the next property

Elizabeth Bliss 49
Mary A Shephard 12
Amelia Fullucks 15
Margaret Wood 69


Deaths Jun 1852 (>99%)
Hales Jane Helen Windsor 2c 266



PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 10 Jun 2013 10:30

Second marriage to Lydia........

London and Surrey, England, Marriage Bonds and Allegations, 1597-1921
about Richard William Hales Name: Richard William Hales (Widower)
Event Date: 6 Dec 1853
Parish: Hanover Square, St George
County: Middlesex
Spouse's Name: Lydia Goodchild (Widow)
Spouse's Parish: Hanover Square, St George
Spouse's County: Middlesex
Event Type: Allegation
Reference Number: Ms 10091/230

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 10 Jun 2013 10:46


The 1871 Census
is provided in
association with:. All Results
..1871 England Census
about Richard William Hales Name: Richard William Hales
Age: 59
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1812
Relation: Visitor
Gender: Male
Where born: Harwich, Essex, England
Civil Parish: Camberwell St Giles
Ecclesiastical parish: Blenheim Grove All Saints
Town: Peckham
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
Registration District: Camberwell
Sub-registration District: Peckham
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Household Schedule Number: 11
Piece: 730
Folio: 30
Page Number: 2
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas George March 37
Frances March 37
Henry George March 8
Richard William Hales 59 (Widower) Retired Officer of Excise

I keep getting the error message so it's taking forever to post this!!


Deaths Sep 1867 (>99%)
Hales Lydia 56 Mile End 1c 371



PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 10 Jun 2013 10:52

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915
about Richard William Hales Name: Richard William Hales
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1812
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1877
Age at Death: 65
Registration District: Ipswich
Inferred County: Suffolk
Volume: 4a
Page: 368

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 10 Jun 2013 10:56

May I is actually Mary Jane........

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about Mary Jane Hales Name: Mary Jane Hales
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 30 Jun 1839
Born: 3 June 1839
Abode: Commercial Road
Father's Name: Richard William Hales (Clerk in Excise)
Mother's Name: Jane Helen Hales
Parish or Poor Law Union: Limehouse St Anne
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Register Type: Parish Registers

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 10 Jun 2013 11:12

1841 England Census
about Mary Hales Name: Mary Hales
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839
Gender: Female

Civil Parish: Stepney
Hundred: Ossulstone (Tower Division)
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View Image

Registration District: Stepney
Sub-registration District: Mile End Old Town Lower
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 713
Book: 4
Folio: 47
Page Number: 11
Household Members: Name Age
Richd Hales 25 (Clk Excise)
Jane Hales 20
Mary Hales 2


Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 10 Jun 2013 11:24

Hi Prickly Holly, great name!!!!. Thankyou for all your efforts I have quite a lot to peruse through now, I just wish they had stuck to one partner LOL!!!

I do appreciate all the kind replies and time that goes into giving this help.
Thankyou
Jackie

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 10 Jun 2013 11:40

The information that you good people have given me is great and I am so pleased.

Now I have another small problem with regards to their son Richard James Hales, he married Sarah Ann Elizabeth LEWIS in March qtr of 1860 in Greenwich, I am now trying to find her mother. Her father is David LEWIS and I have tried all the lines I am able to access and I still cannot find this.
I have been trying to work the two together to no avail. Can I ask you if you are able to give me a little more of your time on this please. Maybe it is because I keep having senior moments!!!!!!!! I may be missing the obvious.

Thankyou again
Jackie

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 10 Jun 2013 11:53

Lydia in 1851.....

1851 England Census
about Lydia Goodchild Name: Lydia Goodchild
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811
Relation: Wife
Gender: F (Female)
Where born: Hampton, Middlesex, England

Civil Parish: New Windsor
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
County/Island: Berkshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration District: Windsor
Sub-registration District: Egham
ED, institution, or vessel: 6d
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 73
Piece: 1695
Folio: 368
Page Number: 24
Household Members: Name Age
Lydia Goodchild 40 (Widow) Fishmonger and Poulterer
Charlotte White 42 (Sister)
Frances Sheppard 13 (Visitor)
Sarah Platter 17 (Servant)


1841 England Census
about Lydia Goodchild Name: Lydia Goodchild
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811
Gender: Female

Civil Parish: New Windsor
Hundred: Ripplesmere
County/Island: Berkshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View Image

Registration District: Windsor
Sub-registration District: Windsor
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 37
Book: 1
Folio: 8
Page Number: 9
Household Members: Name Age
Lydia Goodchild 30


Above her is William Goodyear age 30.......Occ: Something Officer...(I can't read the first word!)

And below her is.........Charlotte White age 30
....................................Elizabeth Bennett age 15
....................................Frances Sheppard age 4


PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 10 Jun 2013 11:58

When and where was Richard James born?

And when and where was Sarah Lewis born?

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 10 Jun 2013 12:04

Her Father is actually Daniel Lewis.......


London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about Richard James Hales Name: Richard James Hales (Barge? Builder)
Age: Full Age
Spouse Name: Sarah Ann Elizabeth Lewis
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 19 Feb 1860
Parish: Deptford St Paul
Borough: Lewisham
Father Name: Richard Willm Hales
Spouse Father Name: Daniel Lewis
Register Type: Parish Register
Witnesses: Charles Martin? Lewis and Frances Lewis


I am going to have to come back to this later Jackie because i keep geting the dreaded error message!!

:-|

Edit: The occupation of both Richard William Hales and Daniel Lewis is.........Ship (Something) Short for Shipwright??

Are you certain that this Richard is the son of your Richard William Hales??

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 10 Jun 2013 17:01

Hi (Prickly Holly), Thankyou for this anyway and look forward to anything else you can dig up, :-)
I do really appreciate it.
Jackie

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 12 Jun 2013 12:35

Hi Jackie

Sorry for the delay in replying but i have only just been able to sign back on here since 2pm on Monday!

Have you actually found Richard James on any census record?

He does not appear in any census record with your Richard William and there does not appear to be a baptism record for him.

Dea

Dea Report 12 Jun 2013 14:07

Prickles - Have you noticed on that 1860 marriage cert Richard James seemes to have signed with the surname AYLES ??

He does write quite well but I suppose someone may have taught him to sign his name who couldn't spell?? but I wonder if was him who got it wrong or the vicar ?

I can't seem to trace him on a census.

Dea x

safc

safc Report 12 Jun 2013 14:21

????

Sarah A Ayles in household of Richd J Ayles, "England and Wales Census, 1881"
Name: Sarah A Ayles
Age (Original): 41
Gender: Female
Birth Year: 1840
Birthplace: Poplar, Middlesex, England
Relationship to Head of Household: Wife
Marital Status: Married
Occupation:
Address: 2 Paxtons Alley Rotherhithe St
Event Place: Rotherhithe, Surrey, England
Disability:
Record Type: Household
GS Film number: 1341131
Affiliate Publication Number: RG11
Piece/Folio: 575 / 19
Page Number: 32
Household Gender Age Birthplace
Head Richd J Ayles M 42 Rotherhithe, Surrey, England
Wife Sarah A Ayles F 41 Poplar, Middlesex, England
Son Richd A Ayles M 17 Rothe, Surrey, England
Daughter Eliza Ayles F 14 Rothe, Surrey, England
Son David Ayles M 11 Rothe, Surrey, England
Son Charles Ayles M 12 Rothe, Surrey, England
Daughter Ellen Ayles F 9 Rothe, Surrey, England
Son Edward Ayles M 8 Rothe, Surrey, England