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Charlotte Butcher

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Wendy

Wendy Report 12 Jun 2013 16:19

Hello All please can you help me find any BMD for Charlotte.
The 1851 census shows Father Thomas Butcher c1809,Mother Margaret c1821 and daughter Charlott aged 7 months living in Betnnal Green.
The parents were in fact Samuel Pont Butcher (1807) and wife Sarah Margaret Butcher née Soilleux (1820.
I can find no birth,marriage or death records for Charlotte.I know registration was not required by law until the seventies but I also know that you have come up with answers in the past that I have missed.
Regards
Wendy

Reggie

Reggie Report 12 Jun 2013 16:44

Why do think that the child was not with her own parents at such a tender age?

If you can't find any info...........how do you prove your statement about the identity of her parents?

Reggie

Reggie Report 12 Jun 2013 16:46

INFO only..................

1851 census


Person: BUTCHER, Charlott Address: 51, Seabright Street, Bethnal Green, Tower Hamlets


BUTCHER, Samuel Head Married M 42 1809 Weaver
London, Middlesex VIEW
BUTCHER, Margaret Wife Married F 30 1821 Weaver
London, Middlesex VIEW
BUTCHER, Charlott Daughter F 0 (7 MOS) 1851
London, Middlesex

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 12 Jun 2013 16:47

Name: Thomas Pont Butcher
Spouse's Name: Jemima Rebecca Lewis
Event Date: 19 Dec 1852
Event Place: Saint Matthew,Bethnal Green,London,England
Father's Name: Samuel Pont Butcher
Spouse's Father's Name: Charles Benfield
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M04698-9
System Origin: England-ODM
GS Film number: 849424

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 12 Jun 2013 16:48

Name: George Richard Kirby
Spouse's Name: Ann Rachael Butcher
Event Date: 07 Nov 1852
Event Place: Saint Matthew,Bethnal Green,London,England
Father's Name: Thomas Robert Kirby
Spouse's Father's Name: Thomas Pont Butcher
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M04698-9
System Origin: England-ODM
GS Film number: 849424

Reggie

Reggie Report 12 Jun 2013 16:48

1861 census

Person: BUTCHER, Samuel Address: 9, ..., Hinton Terrace, Bethnal Green

BUTCHER, Samuel Head Married M 52 1809 ...
Bethnal Green, Middlesex VIEW
BUTCHER, Margaret Wife Married F 37 1824
Bethnal Green, Middlesex

Wendy

Wendy Report 12 Jun 2013 16:49

Hello Reggie
The child was with her parents.I was just pointing out the correct details for her parents.
Mother Margaret on the 1841 census was actually baptised in the name of Sarah Margaret.

Reggie

Reggie Report 12 Jun 2013 16:50

Re-reading your post......not sure which 1851 census you refer to....................

Reggie

Reggie Report 12 Jun 2013 16:52

You've lost me............................................

The parents on 1851 are clearly SAMUEL and MARGARET

So what was your question?

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 12 Jun 2013 16:53

have you disproved this one

Births Dec 1850 (>99%)
Butcher Charlotte Epsom 4 143

Reggie

Reggie Report 12 Jun 2013 16:55

Epsom is Surrey..........the child was born in Middlesesx

Wendy

Wendy Report 12 Jun 2013 16:55

Hello All
Thank you for the replies. I have the Pont Butcher family details.I was just wanting to order a BMD certificate for Charlotte but without a bmd index or more details of her ,such as a marriage I'm stuck

Reggie

Reggie Report 12 Jun 2013 16:56

Marriages Jun 1848 (>99%)

BUTCHER Samuel Pont Shoreditch 2 347
Soilleux Sarah Margaret Shoreditch 2 347

The wife was listed as Margaret on the census because that is what her husband called her............

Reggie

Reggie Report 12 Jun 2013 16:58

Sadly,you can't have what doesn't exist

Who registered the deaths of her parents?

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 12 Jun 2013 16:58

OK Reggie - but stranger things have happened., It was the nearest I could find

Reggie

Reggie Report 12 Jun 2013 16:59

Absolutely............always worth checking

Reggie

Reggie Report 12 Jun 2013 17:04

Have you looked for a baptism?

Diamonds-R-A-Girls-Best-Friend

Diamonds-R-A-Girls-Best-Friend Report 12 Jun 2013 17:04

Hi Wendy I can't see a birth registered either, there is a possible baptism in 1855 about a mile from Bethnal Green,

Name: Charlotte Butcher
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 15 Aug 1855
Father's Name: Thomas Butcher
Mother's Name: Sarah Butcher
Parish or Poor Law Union: Hoxton St John
Borough: Hackney
Register Type: Parish Registers

Reggie

Reggie Report 12 Jun 2013 17:08

Nice try, but.................

...............the child's father's name was Samuel.........

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 12 Jun 2013 20:10

Shame, but the Charlotte baptised in 1855 was born 21 Feb 1855 so couldn't be on the 1851 census. Also, the father was a shoemaker.