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Death of lottie May harvey mn Holliday.

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mary

mary Report 15 Jun 2013 20:08

I have tried to find death record o f LOTTIE MAY HARVEY MN HOLLIDAY.Have searched online records and sent to Southport for search covering years we think she died.last record of her was that she was in SPALDING workhouse jan 1928-oct 1937.their record states she left to go into service but doesent say where.Only place ihavent tried is FAMILY RECORDS IN LONDON.Iwrote to them and they replied they don't do searches,you have to do this yourself,as I live in Scotland it,s not possible.Lottie was my gm was born in BELPER DERBY 1893.MARRIED FRANK HARVEY 1918 in GLASGOW then returned to Derby.Thank you for any possible help.regards .Mary.

Choccy

Choccy Report 15 Jun 2013 20:12




England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007

Name

Lottie May Harvey

Birth Date:

26 Sep 1893

Date of Registration:

Oct 1984

Age at Death:

91

Registration District:

Norwich Outer

Inferred County:

Norfolk

Volume:

10

Page:

1953


Linda

Linda Report 15 Jun 2013 20:25

Wow Choccy that didn't take you long well done :-D

mary

mary Report 15 Jun 2013 21:24

Thank you Choccy but I sent for this one and was not right one.regards mary.

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 15 Jun 2013 21:31

For refererence

Births Jun 1893

Holliday Lottie May ... Belper 7b 650

Do you have a certificate showing date of birth ?

Gwyn

Kay????

Kay???? Report 15 Jun 2013 22:12


Death-----Derby 1964 Lottie Harvey,,,,,,,age 68,?



not unusual to be out a little on age,

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 16 Jun 2013 08:37

Baptism (Find My Past)
Year:1893
Relationship:
Forenames:Lottie May
Surname:Holliday
SubDistrict:Ripley
County:Derbyshire
Country:England
Register Office:Amber Valley (Ripley)
Reference:RB/53/045
Record source:Derbyshire Registrars Birth Index
Data provider:Derbyshire Family History Society

1911
HOLLIDAY, James Head Married M 52 1859 Railway Signalman Whittington Staffs
HOLLIDAY, Charlotte Wife Married30 years F 49 1862 Rosliston Derbyshire
HOLLIDAY, Lottie May Daughter Single F 17 1894 Lace Net Mender Crich Derbyshire
HOLLIDAY, Gertrude Annie Daughter Single F 16 1895 Lace Net Mender Heage Derbyshire
HOLLIDAY, Ida Lillian Daughter F 12 1899 School Heage Derbyshire
RG number: RG14
Piece: 20986
Reference: RG14PN20986 RG78PN1251 RD436 SD4 ED15 SN146
Registration District: Belper
Sub District: Ripley
Enumeration District: 15
Parish: Heage
Address: Ambergate Near Derby
County: Derbyshire

Chris :)

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 16 Jun 2013 08:41

Have you tried Scottish records too in case she went back there

Gins

Gins Report 16 Jun 2013 09:02

Could you post the details on the marriage certificate, fathers/witnesses, ages and occupation please

Who was the informant on that death certificate that you say is not your Lottie?

Edit: Just to confirm. The death above is of a Lottie May Buck who married Percy V Harvey 1917, Norwich

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 16 Jun 2013 09:35

Deaths Sep 1968 (>99%)
------------------------------------------------------------
HOLLIDAY LOTTIE M 75 SPILSBY 3B 382

(wondered if above, by any chance, but not sure if below?)


Marriages Sep 1913 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------
Holliday William H Sowerby Glanford B. 7a 1616
Sowerby Lottie M Holliday Glanford B. 7a 1616


Births Dec 1892 (>99%)
------------------------------------------------------------
Sowerby Lotty Matilda Glanford B. 7a 654

Chris :)

Gins

Gins Report 16 Jun 2013 10:31

Do you have her full DOB?

Wondered if she went by her middle name?



England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007
Name:May Harvey

Birth Date:12 Apr 1892
Date of Registration:
Oct-Nov-Dec 1973

Age at Death:81

Registration District:Stafford
Inferred County:Staffordshire

Volume:9b
Page:1148

HeyJudeB4Beatles

HeyJudeB4Beatles Report 16 Jun 2013 11:25

There are several trees on Ancestry but they have all obviously copied each other - and have the Norfolk death. There is a photo of her and a family photo of her parents and five daughters and a son (of which one of the girls would be her).

They seemingly had four children two boys and a girl born in four different places. What was Frank's occupation? What do you know about him?

Jude

Gins

Gins Report 16 Jun 2013 16:52

I saw those trees Jude and thought.........arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

:-)

HeyJudeB4Beatles

HeyJudeB4Beatles Report 16 Jun 2013 17:48

Gins :-)

There is a Frank who was a railway porter which would fit with the flitting about....

Mary we really need you back!

Did Lottie and Frank split up or did he die?

Kay????

Kay???? Report 16 Jun 2013 18:55


She didnt die in Scotland,,,,,,,,

HeyJudeB4Beatles

HeyJudeB4Beatles Report 16 Jun 2013 19:47

No Kay...had a quick search and came to the same conclusion.

None of the children were born in Scotland - although one allegedly died in Rutherglen.

So he was born in Staffs, they married in Glasgow, the children were born in Sculcoates, Lincoln Belper and Leeds....

Jude

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 16 Jun 2013 19:52

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/records_office/thread/1125237

(above, and other queries coming up on google)

Chris :)


(from above)
Found her marriage in Glasgow on March 5th 1918 at 19, Howard Street, Glasgow. By declaration in the prescence of Robert Wilson, Hairdresser, and Elsie Mabel Poole, Music Hall Artiste.

Grooms Details:

Frank Harvey, Amusement Caterer (Bachelor) aged 46.
Residence: 45 Buccleuch Street Glasgow.

Parents: George Harvey, Fruit Salesman (deceased) and Margaret Ann Harvey - Maiden name - Transfield (deceased)

Brides Details:

Lottie M Holliday, Amusement Caterer (Spinster) aged 25
Residence: 45 Buccleuch Street, Glasgow.

Parents: James Holliday, Railway Signalman (deceased) and Charlotte Holliday - Maiden surname: Swann

HeyJudeB4Beatles

HeyJudeB4Beatles Report 16 Jun 2013 20:24

So fairground people would also explain why they got around I guess......

HeyJudeB4Beatles

HeyJudeB4Beatles Report 16 Jun 2013 20:43

On one of the trees there is a comment from Mary Bradshaw.......

HI DIANE THIS IS MARY BRADSHAW AGAIN.THIS IS FIRST I.VE CHECKED ANCESTRY FOR AGES,SO I HADENT SEEN THIS ENTRY TILL NOW.I HAVE THIS PHOTO TO.WE STILL HAVENT DISCOVERED WHEN SHE DIED.I SENT FOR THE DEATH CERT FOR NORFOLK 1984 ENTRY BUT IT WASENT HER.HER DAUGHTER IRENE SAID RECENTLY THAT LOTTIE,S MOTHER CHARLOTTE ATTENDED HER FUNERAL.CHARLOTTE DIED 1940 SO MUST BE BETEEEN HER LEAVEING SPALDING WORKHOUSE IN OCT 1937-1940.

So "daughter Irene" is the one who was born Belper 1918 and died Rutherglen as Irene Goldie...Mary's name. So would seem we are looking for a death before 1940:-)

mary

mary Report 16 Jun 2013 21:27

Sorry all just got back.Thank yo.All the other info on births u all so much.Will start with hey judeb4beatles.The Irene u found is my sister.they only went to Glasgow to get married,they would have to reside 6 wks hence the jobs.they were back in Derby when their daughter Irene was born in dec that year.The info on other births are correct and census on her family.i am amazed at info on Frank all we know about him is what,s on marriage cert, but he was railway worker prior to going to Glasgow.Last record of him is in Leeds then lottie my mother and her brother were admitted to workhouse jan 1928.Dont know if she was abandoned or widowed.do you have details of this frank,s birth.havent a clue where he is from .regards mary.