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Cornelius Gullivan born st helens lancashire

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merri_59

merri_59 Report 16 Jun 2013 06:51

any info greatly appreciated, have parents, but would like more info on siblings and where/ who he married, etc

Astra

Astra Report 16 Jun 2013 07:11

Born 1858 St. Helen's in 1861 he has a brother Paul age 14 and a sister Mary age 6.
They are living with their mother Susannah in Eccleston, St. Helen's.

By 1881 he is a bottle maker still living with his mother and uncle Cornelius in Eccleston.

He is still single in 1891 Living with his sister Mary in Eccleston now married to William Garner. His uncle Cornelius is also with him.

Can't locate him after 1891 anywhere in the world. His Uncle Cornelius died in 1892.

Deaths Jun 1892 (>99%)
Canning Cornelius 61 Prescot 8b 482

Fredk

Fredk Report 16 Jun 2013 07:13

Is this him

England & Wales births 1837-2006
First Name CORNELIUS
Last Name GULLIVAN
Birth Year 1858
Gender M
Mother's Maiden Name
Year 1858
Country England
County Lancashire
Event Quarter 3
District PRESCOT
District Number
Volume 8B
Page 466
Entry Number
Line Number 38
DOR
Category Life events (BMDs)
Record set England & Wales births 1837-2006
Collections from Great Britain

Fredk

Fredk Report 16 Jun 2013 07:18



1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Household Information
Street WILSON STREET
Parish ECCLESTON
Town
City
County Lancashire
Country ENGLAND
Registration District PRESCOT
Category Census, Land & Surveys
Record set 1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Collections from Great Britain
Person 1
First Name JAS
Last Name MC MASTERS
Birth Year 1853
Age 28
Birth Place IRELAND
Birth Town
Birth County
Relationship To Head of Household LODGER
Gender M
Occupation LABORER
Condition SINGLE
Archive Reference RG11
Folio 18
Page 29
Piece Number 3735
Person 2
First Name SUSAN
Last Name GULLIVAN
Birth Year 1829
Age 52
Birth Place
Birth Town LIVERPOOL
Birth County LANCASHIRE
Relationship To Head of Household SISTER
Gender F
Occupation HOUSEKEEPER
Condition MARRIED
Archive Reference RG11
Folio 18
Page 29
Piece Number 3735
Person 3
First Name CORNELIUS
Last Name GULLIVAN
Birth Year 1858
Age 23
Birth Place
Birth Town ST HELENS
Birth County LANCASHIRE
Relationship To Head of Household NEPHEW
Gender M
Occupation BOTTLE MAKER
Condition SINGLE
Archive Reference RG11
Folio 18
Page 29
Piece Number 3735
Person 4
First Name CORNELIUS
Last Name CANNING
Birth Year 1831
Age 50
Birth Place
Birth Town LIVERPOOL
Birth County LANCASHIRE
Relationship To Head of Household HEAD
Gender M
Occupation GLASS MAKER
Condition SINGLE
Archive Reference RG11
Folio 18
Page 29
Piece Number 3735

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 16 Jun 2013 07:22

1891 census
Name: Cornelius Gullivan
Age: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858
Relation: Brother-in-law
Gender: Male
Where born: St Helens, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Eccleston
Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas
Town: St Helens
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address:10 Campbell Street

Occupation: glass bottle blower

Condition as to marriage:single

Education:

Employment status:

View Image
Registration District: Prescot
Sub-registration District: St Helens
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3021
Folio: 141
Page Number: 69
Household Members:
Name Age
William Garner 38
Mary Garner 35
Elizabeth A Garner 18
Margaret Garner 16
Mary Garner 13
Thomas Garner 8
William Garner 5
Amelia Garner 2
Daniel Garner 7/12
Cornelius Canning 59 uncle
Cornelius Gullivan 33


Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 3021; Folio: 141; Page: 69; GSU Roll: 6098131.

Fredk

Fredk Report 16 Jun 2013 07:23

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Births Sep 1858 (>99%)
Gullivan Cornelius Prescot 8b 466

Fredk

Fredk Report 16 Jun 2013 07:29

Cannot find a Marriage or Death

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 16 Jun 2013 07:40

Seems to disappear after 1891 census

Fredk

Fredk Report 16 Jun 2013 07:48

From Mundia

Cornelius Gullivan
1858 -
Born: St Helens, Lancashire, England

Conelius's Family
Parents

Susannah Cannon 1830 -
Peter Gullavin 1835 -
Siblings

Paul Gullivan 1847 -
Mary Gullivan 1855 -

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 16 Jun 2013 08:50

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index, 1837-1915
about Mary Gullivan Name: Mary Gullivan
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1872
Registration District: Prescot
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume Number: 8b
Page Number: 1016
Records on Page: Name
William Garner
Mary Gullivan


PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 16 Jun 2013 08:57

1901 England Census
about Mary Garner Name: Mary Garner
Age: 45
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: William Garner
Gender: Female
Where born: St Helens, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: St Helen
Ecclesiastical parish: Eccleston Christchurch
Town: St Helen
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration District: Prescot
Sub-registration District: St Helens
ED, institution, or vessel: 29
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 233
Piece: 3523
Folio: 170
Page Number: 42
Household Members: Name Age
William Garner 47 (Bricklayer)
Mary Garner 45
Thomas Garner 19
William Garner 15
Amelia Garner 13
Daniel Garner 12
William Garner 7




Flip

Flip Report 16 Jun 2013 09:02

His sister is on 1910 US census, states they have been married 36 years, 9 children (all still alve) and they arrived in US 1905. Maybe your answer lies in the US?

William Garner
Age in 1910: 54
Birth Year: abt 1856
Birthplace: England
Home in 1910: Lackawanna Ward 4, Erie, New York
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1905
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Mary Garner
Father's Birthplace: England
Mother's Birthplace: England
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
William Garner 54
Mary Garner 50
William Garner 23
Amelia Garner 21
Daniel Garner 20
William North 22 (boarder)

Flip

Flip Report 16 Jun 2013 09:10

Daniel Garner
Arrival Date: 19 Jan 1906
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890
Gender: Male
Ethnic Background: English
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Ship Name: Ivernia
Port of Arrival: Boston, Massachusetts
Friend's Name: Thos Garner
Last Residence: England

Travelling with father William (bricklayer) and sister Amelia - going to brother Thomas 96 Fith st, Buffalo and his wife Mary.

Flip

Flip Report 16 Jun 2013 09:16

Mary arriving with son William (18, bricklayer) going to son Thomas, I think it says he has been in US 5 years:

Mary Garner
Arrival Date: 6 Nov 1905
Age: 47 Years
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858
Gender: Female
Ethnic Background: English
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Ship Name: Friesland
Port of Arrival: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Friend's Name: Thos Garner
Last Residence: St Helens
Microfilm Roll Number: T840_50

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 16 Jun 2013 09:43

Found this on Google - but it may have been posted by you......


http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=mediaphotopublic&rank=1&sbo=t&gsbco=Sweden&gsln=Gullivan


http://www.sthelens-connect.net/forums/topic/35339-ggg-grandparents-go-missing/

Flip

Flip Report 16 Jun 2013 10:05

He's not with nephew Thomas either - it states he arrived 1905, Mary in 1906. married 3 years, 3 children all born NY.

Thomas Garner
Age in 1910: 28
Birth Year: abt 1882
Birthplace: England
Home in 1910: Lackawanna Ward 3, Erie, New York
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1905
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Mary Garner
Father's Birthplace: England
Mother's Birthplace: England
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Garner 28
Mary Garner 35
Eileen Garner 3
Herbert Garner 2
Doris Garner 0
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merri_59

merri_59 Report 16 Jun 2013 12:39

thank you so much every body, for garner info, had lost them too.
cornelius is my brick wall.

Flip

Flip Report 16 Jun 2013 12:46

Not exactly getting anywhere with Cornelius are we?

Have you found what happened to his brother Paul(or rather half brother I would think)?

If Cornelius moved to the continent or Ireland we couldn't find him on shipping lists, and there appears to be a France connection. There's no death I can see for his father Peter either.

merri_59

merri_59 Report 16 Jun 2013 12:47

have lost peter, paul and cornelius gullivan have been told paul may have been born france 1847 but unlikely susan/sussanah cannon/ canning is his birth mother
dont have deaths for any of them, will now look in usa

Astra

Astra Report 16 Jun 2013 13:35

I think Paul changed his name to that of his mother. He was born in France so this looks like him.

1881 England Census
Name: Paul Cannon
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Relation: Brother (Head) (Head)
Gender: Male
Where born: (B S), France
Civil Parish: Sutton
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address: 36 Appleton St
Condition as to marriage: Married
Occupation: Glass Lab
Registration District: Prescot
Sub-registration District: St Helens
ED, institution, or vessel: 28
Neighbors:
Piece: 3739
Folio: 53
Page Number: 58
Household Members:
Name Age
Paul Cannon
30
Sarah A. Cannon
25
John Cannon
3
Mary Cannon
1

and the 1911. State married 36 years. 11 children born 3 living 7 died. The maths doesn't add up!

1911 England Census
Name: Paul Cannon
Age in 1911: 65
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: France
Civil Parish: Ince in Makerfield
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address: 20 Bird St Off Manchester Rd Hr Ince Nr Wigan Ince
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Labourer Above Ground Collery
Registration District: Wigan
Registration District Number: 458
Sub-registration District: Hindley
ED, institution, or vessel: 33
Piece: 23048
Household Members:
Name Age
Paul Cannon
65
Sarah Ann Cannon
54
Susan Ann Cannon
27
Annie Cannon
20
Mary Ellen Pennington
24
Daniel Pennington
25
Matha Pennington
3
Sarah Ann Pennington
2