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Hi does anybody know if Ancestry Canada has the soldiers war records or are they the attestation papers like on the Canadian Archives web site, if they are the records would someone mind looking at My Great Grandfathers brother WILLIAM HAIZELDEN.

Thank you Colette

Hi Colette....Just checked at both sites you have named & they are the same re William Haizelden, the following from Ancestry Canada....


Canada, Soldiers of the First World War, 1914-1918
about William Haizelden




Name:
William Haizelden

Residence:
Hamilton, Ontario

Birth Date:
26 Mar 1885

Birth Location:
Liverpool, England

Relative:
Florence Haizelden

Relationship:
Wife

Regiment Number:
240425

This from Canadian Archives....

Name: HAIZELDEN, WILLIAMRank: CPLRegimental number(s): 240425Reference: RG 150, Accession 1992-93/166, Box 3927 - 48Date of Birth: 26/03/1885

K/Regards,
A/Canuck

You can search at:
http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/cef/index-e.html

There are some service records online - less than 10% of soldiers at present is my guess - searching at the above link will get them as well as the attestation papers if they're already online. See also:
http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/cef/001042-130-e.html#h


For Canadian WW1 dead, in addition to the CWGC site:
http://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead.aspx
also check out:
http://www.veterans.gc.ca/eng/collections/virtualmem
There is sometimes some extra stuff there. E.g., for my dad's cousin, it says:

There is a digital collection relating to CHARLES PATERSON MASSIE

with an embedded link that gets me a pic of Charles.

Hello Collette, Ancestry also has this:

Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935
Name: William Haizelden
Date of Arrival: 9 May 1919
Vessel: Mauretania
Port of Arrival: Halifax, Nova Scotia
Port of Departure: Southampton, England
Roll: T-14795

It looks like the Mauretania was being used as a troop ship to return soldiers to Canada. Details on the manifest say Sailing no 53 proceeding from Kinmel Park. They embarked 03 May 1919.

This is the additional info for William:

No = 240425
Rank = cpl
Rgt or Cor = CGA
Service Unit = 1 CE
Orig Unit = 205 bn
NOK = wife
Residence = Hamilton


Some info on Kinmel Park

http://www.abergelepost.com/kinmel-park-camp.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinmel_Park_Riots

There are more articles on Google. Apparently there were riots in 1919 at the camp due to the delays in repatriating Canadian soldiers. Going by the date William sailed he would have been there when that happened.

Do you have this?

Canada, Voters Lists, 1935-1980
Name: William Haizelden
Location: Hamilton, Ontario
Occupation: Retired
Electoral District: Hamilton West
Year: 1968
Address: 24 Orchard Hill

At the same address is Florence, Vera (a teacher) and Eric (an Int. Harvester)

They were also at this address in 1949. Same occupations except William was an Insurance Agent.

EDIT: By 1972 William is no longer listed. Miss Vera Haizelden is retired and Eric is in maintenance. Florence is still there.


and


Canada, Voters Lists, 1935-1980
Name: William Haizelden
Location: Hamilton, Ontario
Occupation: Agent
Electoral District: Hamilton West
Year: 1935
Address: 497 King W (bordered by King St, Main St, Locke St and Strathcona Avenue)

At the same address is Mrs William (housewife) and William jnr, a clerk

Birth of William junior:

Ontario, Canada Births, 1869-1913

Name: William Haizelden
Date of Birth: 22 Apr 1913
Gender: Male
Birth County or District: Wentworth
Father's Name: William Haizelden
Mother's Name: Florence Bayley
Archive Name: Archives of Ontario
Archive Series: MS929
Archive Reel: 244

Underneath his name is also written Eric so I guess William jnr on the voters list and Eric may be one and the same person.

He was born 62 William Street but the address of father William registering the birth on 05 May 1913 was 580 James North. William snr was a transfer agent.

Parents were married 1908 Liverpool.

EDIT: There's a 1996 phone directory entry for a W E Haizelden so guess his full name was William Eric.

Death of a daughter:

Ontario, Canada, Deaths, 1869-1938 and Deaths Overseas, 1939-1947

Name: Florence Iris Haizelden
Death Date: 17 Oct 1921
Death County or District: Wentworth
Age: 11
Gender: Female
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1910
Birth Location: England

She died of diptheria with contributory myocarditis. She was buried 18/10/1921 in Hamilton cemetery.

Father William lived 97 Hillyard Street. Mother was Florence Bailey.

You may already have this:

UK, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960

Name: William Haizelden
Birth Date: abt 1885
Age: 66
Port of Departure: Quebec, Canada
Arrival Date: 8 Aug 1951
Port of Arrival: Liverpool, England
Ports of Voyage: Quebec
Ship Name: Franconia
Shipping Line: Cunard White Star
Official Number: 145216

Travelling with Florence age 60. They were going to the Bradford Hotel, Liverpool.

This is the free copy of the passenger list - Wm is on line 4 at right.
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/e/e244/e006086043.jpg
However, the resolution's so low, you'll really need the Ancestry digitalization to read any details.


Births Jun 1885 (>99%)
Haizelden William W. Derby 8b 615

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1909[q4]
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
HAIZELDEN William BAYLEY Florence Bootle, St Andrew South Sefton A12/2/39

1911 England Census Transcription
Years Of Marriage:1
Address:56 CARMEL ST EVERTON LIVERPOOL
Parish:EVERTON
County:Lancashire
Country:ENGLAND
Registration District:WEST DERBY
Registration District Number:455
Registration Sub-District: North Everton
SubDistrict Number:7
Enumeration District:20
Census Reference:RG14PN22503 RG78PN1324 RD455 SD7 ED20 SN369

WILLIAM HAIZELDEN 1885 26 Liverpool, Lanc HEAD M Boarding House Waiter
FLORENCE HAIZELDEN 1891 20 Seaforth, Lanc WIFE M
FLORENCE HAIZELDEN 1911 0[8m] Liverpool, Lanc DAUGHTER
[marr 1y; 1 live birth; 1 still living]

Births Sep 1910 (>99%)
HAIZELD[OE]N Florence I W. Derby 8b 4[56]1


http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/passenger/001045-100.01-e.php
View Image
Ship: EMPRESS OF BRITAIN
Shipping Line: Canadian Pacific Railway Co.
Departure Port and Date (yyyy/mm/dd): Liverpool, England - 1912-06-14
Port and Date of Arrival: Quebec, Que. - 1912-06-21
Reference: RG 76
Microfilm: T-4787
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/e/e144/e003579648.jpg

Vernon's city of Hamilton directory (1922)
For decent resolution here, magnify 3 clicks, then save image:
http://archive.org/stream/vernonhamilton00vernuoft#page/n537/mode/1up

A search at http://ocfa.islandnet.com/ocfa-search.php gets:
Name Cemetery County Township Reference
HAIZELDEN, Florence (Bayley) Woodland Wentworth Flamborough East HM-344-1
HAIZELDEN, William Woodland Wentworth Flamborough East HM-344-1

For REFERENCE FIELD numbers beginning with "HM-", write to...
Hamilton Branch, OGS
P.O. Box 904, LCD 1
Hamilton, Ontario, Canada.
L8N 3P6

Thank you all for your imput, knew about his life before Canada, but very little whilst he was there,my Great Grandparents did go over to visit once and my Grandfather also went.
Wondering now about the son William Eric and did he marry and do I have some family still in Ontario..

once again cheers
Colette xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx