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Albert George Gibson and Loretta Lilia Robson

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Christine

Christine Report 1 Jul 2013 01:54

I am trying to find information on both Albert George Gibson and Loretta Lilia Robson - both from Scarborough, Yorkshire and from Prospect Road, Scarborough.

Loretta was a servant there at the time of the birth of her daughter Doreen June Robson on the 9th June 1929. When June and her husband Robert Henry Peckitt departed to Australia 16 March 1957, both cited the Prospect Road as their address. On the marriage certificate June cites Albert as her father although he was not on the birth certificate. June is my husband's ex mother-in-law and grandmother of my step children who I am researching this for. June's daughter Janis (dec) always wanted to know about her family as June was always evasive. As June is now deceased, her Granddaughter now feels it is now ok to start working out the family heritage (regardless if it is embarrassing!) :-S

I hope I can get information as I have limited ability to find out as Loretta and Albert have no birth or death record nor census (maybe they were born shortly after the 1911 census).
regards
Christne Hopkins (nee Moore)

jax

jax Report 1 Jul 2013 02:36

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Civil registration event: MarriageView the original image
MarriageFinder™: Albert G Gibson married Sadie Robson [?]
Name: GIBSON, Albert G
Registration district: [?] Scarborough
County: Yorkshire
Year of registration: 1926
Quarter of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Spouse's last name Robson
Volume no: [?] 9D
Page no: [?] 891

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Name: ROBSON, Sadie
Registration district: Scarborough
County: Yorkshire
Year of registration: 1926
Quarter of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Spouse's last name: Gibson
Volume no: 9D
Page no: 891

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Christine

Christine Report 1 Jul 2013 04:01

Thank you so much for your information, I will pursue this further. It further adds to the mystery (and possible scandal though! ;-) ). I had not been able to receive this amount of information on Albert George Gibson, so I thank you.

Another ingredient into this interesting mix - the general registry office has not been able to find a birth certificate on Mary Elizabeth Gibson who in 1918 married Thomas Peckitt and are the parents of June's spouse Robert Henry Peckitt.
Because of the similarity of surnames between Robert's Spouse Doreen June Robson's alleged father Albert Gibson and Robert's own mother Mary Elizabeth, we are trying to find out if Albert and Mary are related as well.
As it is important to my step-daughters to determine their maternal heritage, I am trying to unmuddy the waters as much as possible -not to create embarrassment - but an explanation as to their grandmother's story and why certain things are as they are.

So I hope I do NOT create upset to anyone who may be connected to this story . If some-one wishes to contact me privately on this matter please do so.


Again thank you for the information already offered _ I really appreciate it.
kind regards
Christine Hopkins

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 1 Jul 2013 04:06

Christine ...............


when researching marriages around WW1, it is important to remember that many marriages, especially for women, were second marriages.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 1 Jul 2013 04:17

for information ............


Marriages Sep 1918 (>99%)

Gibson Mary E Peckitt York 9d 110
Peckitt Thomas Gibson York 9d 110



If you have ancestry, you can see Thomas Peckitt's Probate record ........


England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966 about Thomas Peckitt

Name: Thomas Peckitt
Probate Date: 21 Mar 1946
Death Date: 13 Oct 1944
Death Place: Scarborough
Registry: Yorkshire, England

The image shows .................

Peckitt, Thomas, of 50 Cross Street, Scarborough, died 13 October 1944 on war service. Administration [granted} York 21 March 1946 to Mary Elizabeth Peckitt (wife of Thomas Peckitt).
Effects £162 16s 4d


You will have to buy the will to see any more than this.


For more information on how to buy a will, go to

http://www.justice.gov.uk/courts/probate/copies-of-grants-wills

Christine

Christine Report 1 Jul 2013 04:29

A huge thank you - initially I had no extra information other than what is stated above - attempted marriage certificates etc to no avail. but I now have something to work with and again I appreciate any information given.

kind regards
Christine

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 1 Jul 2013 04:29

I wonder .........................


Deaths Sep 1958 (>99%)

PECKITT Mary E 68 Scarboro' 1b 657



If it is Mary Elizabeth, that would make her born about 1890 ....... assuming that the informant knew her real age.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 1 Jul 2013 04:55

Two Public Family Trees on ancestry have the following.

However ........... neither of them are showing any back up documentation, but it may be worth trying to trace through


Loretta Lilias ROBSON
Birth 2 NOV 1910 in Gateshead, Durham, England
Death 25 FEB 1989 in Ely, Cambridgeshire, England


Marriage to Horace Robert GRIGGS
1931 24 Dec — Age: 21
Registry Office, Gateshead, Durham, England


IF true, these are shown as her parents ............

Parents

William Worley ROBSON 1867 – 1953
Sarah NEEVE 1868 –



Again , if true ............ this looks to be her family in 1911, with a very bad mistranscription of her name!


1911 Census

Name: William Worley Robson
Age in 1911: 44
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Gateshead, Durham, England
Civil Parish: Gateshead
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Street Address: 2 Chatsworth Parede Low Fell Gateshead
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Bicplayer <<<<< Bricklayer (House Builder)
Registration District: Gateshead
Registration District Number: 557
Sub-registration District: Gateshead
ED, institution, or vessel: 80
Piece: 30490

William Worley Robson 44
Sarah Robson 43
Thomas Henry Robson 22 Bricklayer
George Robson 21 House Painter
William Worley Robson 20 Boot Repairer, Deaf and Dumb
Chester Porter Robson 16 Coal Miner (underground)
Sarah Elizabeth Robson 14
Clarlnec Norman Robson 3
Corette Cilias Robson 4/12 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Horace John Jackson 77
Hannah Robson 2


It IS Lorette Lilias on the image


and Clarinec is Clarence

I will send in Alternate Name Reports. (done!)

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 1 Jul 2013 05:07

I bet this is her birth registration ...... with yet another misspelling!


Births Dec 1910 (>99%)

ROBSON Larette L Gateshead 10a 1003


I looked at the original, the GRO INdex to birth registrations, and it is typed as Larette L .................. so is not a mistranscription by the modern-day transcriber, but goes back to the GRO Index in 1910/1911.


You could order this birth certificate, using EXACTLY the same spelling as shown above, and I'm betting it will be the correct one.


In case you did not know, order all bmd certificates only from GRO (web address below) .............. the cost will be £9.25, including postage and handling.

It is the official Government site, most other sites charge much more.

GRO = General Register Office

http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/

Reggie

Reggie Report 1 Jul 2013 08:39

You will not be able to send to freebmd a correction re the birth, as there is no error in transcription, however, you can add a postem stating that you believe the correct forename to be ************

Marriages Jun 1886 (>99%)

NEEVE Sarah Newcastle On Tyne 10b 180
Robson William Worley Newcastle T. 10b 180

Dea

Dea Report 1 Jul 2013 08:43



It seems Thomas was in the Navy:

PECKITT, THOMAS

Rank:
Leading Seaman
Service No:
C/SSX 33242
Date of Death:
14/10/1944
Age:
26
Regiment/Service:
Royal Navy

H.M.S. Scott
Panel Reference
75, 1.
Memorial
CHATHAM NAVAL MEMORIAL


Additional Information:

Son of Thomas and Mary Elizabeth Peckitt, of Scarborough, Yorkshire.


Info from http://www.cwgc.org site

Dea x

Reggie

Reggie Report 1 Jul 2013 08:46

1901 census


Person: ROBSON, William W Address: 33, Norley Terrace, Gateshead

ROBSON, William W Head Married M 33 1868 Stone Mason
Washington, Durham VIEW
ROBSON, Sarah Wife Married F 32 1869
Southwold, Suffolk VIEW
ROBSON, Thomas Son Single M 12 1889
Low Fell, Durham VIEW
ROBSON, George Son M 11 1890
Low Fell, Durham VIEW
ROBSON, Chester Son M 6 1895
Low Fell, Durham VIEW
ROBSON, Sarah Daughter F 4 1897
Low Fell, Durham VIEW
WRIGHT, George Father-In-Law Married M 60 1841 Iron Factory Labourer
N K

Births Jun 1867 (>99%)
Neeve Sarah Blything 4a 702

Reggie

Reggie Report 1 Jul 2013 08:48

1871 census


Person: NEEVE, Sarah Address: Southwold Road, West Side, Wrentham

NEEVE, George Head M 32 1839 Norfolk VIEW
NEEVE, Sarah Wife F 26 1845 Suffolk VIEW
NEEVE, Chester H Son M 6 1865 Suffolk VIEW
NEEVE, Sarah Daughter F 3 1868 Suffolk

Reggie

Reggie Report 1 Jul 2013 08:52

1881 census


Person: NEEVE, Sarah Address: 3, Elizabeth Street, Byker

NEEVE, Sarah Head Married F 35 1846
Cratfield, Suffolk VIEW
NEEVE, Chester H Son Single M 16 1865 Labourer In Works
Halesworth, Northumberland VIEW
NEEVE, Sarah Daughter Single F 14 1867
Southwold, Suffolk VIEW
WRIGHT, George Boarder Single M 45 1836 Miller
Lowstoft, Suffolk

Reggie

Reggie Report 1 Jul 2013 08:56

A GR member named Miranda has Sarah Neeve in her tree.............try contacting her through the site.

Christine

Christine Report 1 Jul 2013 08:57

:-D WoW - thank you for so many leads to chase up -that is awesome! I really appreciate everyone's time taken to look it up and to post it. I do not take it for granted .

kind regards
Christine Hopkins

Reggie

Reggie Report 1 Jul 2013 08:58

Death
Name: GRIGGS, Lorrette Lilias
Registration district: Ely
County: Cambridgeshire
Year of registration: 1989
Month of registration: February
Date of Birth:2 November 1910
Volume no: 9
Page no: 995
Reg no: 289

Reggie

Reggie Report 1 Jul 2013 08:59

Use freebmd to look for possible children for Griggs/Robson

It would seem that there were 7.........3 in the north-east, and 4 in Cambs

They are too recent to post on here..............

3 members have at least one of them in GR trees

Of those three, one also has Loretta in his tree.

If you send a contact message, delete GR's text, and put in your own.........preferably not actually stating the 'link' until such time as you have had a chance to 'test the water', as it were.

Christine

Christine Report 1 Jul 2013 11:39

again Thank you everyone :-)

Marked As Answer Marked as Answered

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 2 Jul 2013 00:53

Christine


you are, and were, very welcome!