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William Pope( b.1816 d Dec 1848 )

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Brian

Brian Report 12 Aug 2013 11:24

The Pope Family Tree of Kent

With your help

I have found William pope he was b 1816 in Ashford Kent England,and died December 1848. He married Frances Andrews on the 20th March 1837 in St Mary North Canterbury Kent England

William was a blacksmith...Can anybody suggest how I find the names of his parents ? I note that William Pope appears several times, but does not appear to be the William Pope I am looking for.

Reggie

Reggie Report 2 Jul 2013 21:18

Glad you found your way back...............

I would suggest that he was born somewhat earlier than 1818............the 1837 marriage was his second............and his age in 1841 was at least 25

My money would be on the baptism safc posted.................

Brian

Brian Report 2 Jul 2013 18:23

William Pope b 1818 d 1848

Thank you to all concerned with there reply's I am very new to all this. ( Green you might say )

Kind regards

Brian Pope

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 2 Jul 2013 11:58

Possibly William's death:-

Name: POPE, William
Registration district: East Ashford
County: Kent
Year of registration: 1848
Quarter of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Volume no: 5
Page no: 7

Kath. x

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 2 Jul 2013 11:57

William Pope must have died between 1841 and 1851 as this is Francis as a widow in the 1851 census:-

1851 census transcription details for: Smeeth, Smeeth

National Archive Reference:
RG number: HO107
Piece: 1622
Folio: 178
Page: 8
Reg. District: East Ashford
Sub District: Brabourne
Parish: Smeeth
Enum. District: 5
Ecclesiastical District:

City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Smeeth, Smeeth
County: Kent

Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born

POPE, Frances Head Widow F 35 1816 Widdow Of A Veterinary Surgeon
Smeeth
POPE, Edward W Son M 13 1838 Scholar
Wye
POPE, Caroline Daughter F 11 1840 Scholar
Ashford
POPE, Henry D Son M 8 1843 Scholar
Ashford
POPE, William C Son M 7 1844 Scholar
Smeeth
POPE, Fanny E Daughter F 4 1847
Smeeth
GRAY, Robert Servant Unmarried M 30 1821 Veterinary Surgeon
Princes Risborough, Buckinghamshire

Kath. x

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 2 Jul 2013 11:30

The marriage date is the 24th March and not the 20th March (according to the image on Findmypast).

Kath. x

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 2 Jul 2013 11:26

This could be Philip Foord (the witness) in the 1841 census:-

1841 census transcription details for: White Horse Lane, St Mary Bredman, Canterbury

National Archive Reference:
RG number: HO107
Piece: 486
Book/Folio: 13/7
Page: 8
Reg. District: Canterbury
Sub District: Canterbury
Parish: St Mary Bredman
Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough: Canterbury

Address: White Horse Lane, St Mary Bredman, Canterbury
County: Kent

Name Relation Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born

FOORD, Philip M 36 1805 Kent
FOORD, Elizabeth Ann F 20 1821 Kent
FOORD, Silas M 15 1826 Kent
FOORD, Charlotte F 12 1829 Kent
FOORD, Frances F 1 1840 Kent

This could be the other witness's death:-


Name: FOORD, Caroline
Registration district: Canterbury
County: Kent
Year of registration: 1838
Quarter of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Volume no: 5
Page no: 39

Kath. x

Mike *

Mike * Report 2 Jul 2013 11:26

Ancestry version

1841

Susan Pope
[Francis Pope]
[User-submitted-comment]

Age:25
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1816
Where born:Kent, England

Civil Parish:Ashford
Hundred Chart and Longbridge
County/Island:Kent


William Pope 25
Susan Pope 25 - definitely Frances on original
Edw Pope 4
Caroline Pope 1
Henry Pope 2 Mo


all born in county






KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 2 Jul 2013 11:17

The witnesses were a Philip and Caroline (Foord??)

Kath. x

Reggie

Reggie Report 2 Jul 2013 11:17

According to 1841, he was born in Kent.....................at any time from 1812 to 1816 (ages of over-15's rounded down to nearest 5)

1841 census


Person: POPE, Frances Address: New Street, Ashford



POPE, William M 25 1816 Kent VIEW
POPE, Frances F 25 1816 Kent VIEW
POPE, Edwd M 4 1837 Kent VIEW
POPE, Caroline F 1 1840 Kent VIEW
POPE, Henry M 0 (2 months) 1841 Kent VIEW
DENIS, Susana F 14 1827 Kent

Mike *

Mike * Report 2 Jul 2013 11:16

As the marriage was before July 1837 there won't be a marriage certificate unfortunately

Marked As Answer Marked as Answered

safc

safc Report 2 Jul 2013 11:10

????

Name: William Pope
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 11 Sep 1812
Christening Place: Ashford, Kent, England
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: William Pope
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Maria
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C04163-7
System Origin: England-EASy
GS Film number: 1736523
Reference ID: 198-2

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 2 Jul 2013 11:06

Kent, England, Extracted Parish Records about Wm Pope Fran Andrews

Text: Wm Pope of Ashford wid & Fran Andrews of St Mary North Cant sp, at St Mary N. 20 Mar 1837.
Book: Volume 36
Collection: Kent, Surrey, London: - Canterbury Marriage Licences, 1810-1837 (Marriage)

So at the time of his 2nd marriage, he was living in Ashford (Kent).

+++DetEcTive+++

+++DetEcTive+++ Report 2 Jul 2013 10:57

A tree on Ancestry has this attached for his baptism

England & Wales Christening Records, 1530-1906
Name: William Pope
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 14 May 1815
Christening Place: Yalding, Kent, England
Father's Name: Richard Pope
Mother's Name: Sarah

EDIT - safc's Ashford bap below is a more likely option considering his place of residence

Who were the witnesses on the MC? Do you have the names of any children as they may be named after their grandparents?

Brian

Brian Report 2 Jul 2013 10:42

William Pope I looking for his parents.I have come up against a brick wall. William Pope was married to Frances Andrews on the 20 march 1837 in St Mary North Canterbury Kent England