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Keith Report 3 Jul 2013 09:58

could some kind person tell me how to get a marriage certificate for a marriage that took place in wales in 1800s
I have all info to send for it but the sites I go on want £25 for this certificate
and promise express delivery
I just want to send to the records office for it there is no rush
I know the marriage was in Anglesey


Jonesey Report 3 Jul 2013 10:01

Order certificates from the GRO they only cost £9.25 including postage.


Reggie Report 3 Jul 2013 10:05

Never get certs from anywhere except the GRO...........

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 3 Jul 2013 10:06

It will only tell you when they married probably so there may not be any fathers listed.

There may be witnesses names.

I am curious to know why your post is headed birth certs when you wish a marriage cert?

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 3 Jul 2013 10:07

Have you found the GRO ref for the one you want ?

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 3 Jul 2013 10:14

(wonder if below is relating, is so, Marriage details added)

Marriages Dec 1872 (>99%)
GRIFFITHS John Anglesey 11b 1091
Roberts Mary Anglesey 11b 1091

Chris :)


Reggie Report 3 Jul 2013 10:14

The marriage record is on Keith's other thread.


Keith Report 3 Jul 2013 10:37

oh I am disappointed I thought I would get the mothers fathers occupation and the grooms fathers occupation
my mistake putting birth instead of marriage
I will not bother if it will only tell me where they married as I already know this thanks to people on genes reunited

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 3 Jul 2013 10:39

Think you only get that on marriages after 1837.


Graham Report 3 Jul 2013 11:13

All the marriage certificates I have record the occupations of the bride & groom and each of their fathers. They also record the date and place of marriage and the ages of the happy couple.

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 3 Jul 2013 11:17

My fault I think I read it as a marriage in 1800 and not the 1800's!!!

Some are just recorded as a marriage between the two being the bride and groom on earlier marriages.

Trust me to throw a spanner in the works!! :-(


Graham Report 3 Jul 2013 11:30

If the marriage was before 1837 it would be unlikely that you would be able to get a certificate.


Reggie Report 3 Jul 2013 14:05


Discount all comments regarding marriages pre-1837 - there were no certs then, anyway

The 1872 marriage cert will tell you the ages and occupations of the bride and groom, and the NAMES and OCCUPATIONS of both fathers.........if they were known.

You would benefit from looking at freebmd, and reading the info about what details are on certs........of all kinds

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 3 Jul 2013 14:11

Grooms Last Name:Griffiths
Grooms First Name:John (Bachelor) (Labourer)
Grooms Fathers First Name:Henry (Labourer)
Grooms Fathers Last Name:Griffiths
Grooms Parish:
Grooms Age:21
Brides Last Name:Roberts
Brides First Name:Mary (Spinster)
Brides Fathers First Name:Owen (Labourer)
Brides Fathers Last Name:Roberts
Brides Parish:
Brides Age:19
Place / Parish:Holyhead
Marriage Year:1872
Marriage Month:Oct
Marriage Day:1
Record source:Anglesey Marriages - Transcripts
Data provider:Welsh Archive Services / Gwasanaethau Archifau Cymru

(witnesses, Owen Roberts, William Hughes. Residence at time for both, Holyhead)

Chris :)

(not sure if this is what Keith is after, did add it this morning, on 'Thread' above)


Reggie Report 3 Jul 2013 14:17

That must be it, Chris..............nice one

Perfect illustration of the importance of keeping all requests about one topic to one thread............


Potty Report 3 Jul 2013 14:45

Actually, it wasn't Keith who posted the details of the marriage. He was just asking a general question about obtaining certs.


Keith Report 3 Jul 2013 17:08

thank you so much for the marriage info Chris
sorry to sound stupid
is it better to put all requests for a family on one post or is it better to do a post for each person
thank you again for your help and patience
do you need ancestry to get the details you are providing as all I have is basic Genes Reunited
I am on pension and find doing family tree helps pass the time and is interesting
but I realise people pay a lot of money to access these sites and know I am taking advantage
but once again thank you all

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 3 Jul 2013 17:22

No worries Keith, happy to help, your'e not taking advantage at all!.

Find My Past had the info., would be on GR, but probably Platinum (I don't know these things!)

If you keep same family to your existing 'Thread', it keeps everything together, which in turn helps us to help you.

Chris :)

(we like helping, so don't ever feel stupid, hopefully we can come up with answers, but not always!)


Graham Report 3 Jul 2013 17:38

Keith - if you want us to look up the records just tell us all you can about the people you are researching (apart from those still living - in which case only tell us names, years and area; not exact dates or addresses) :-)


mgnv Report 4 Jul 2013 02:41

The easiest place to get BMD certs is thru the GRO as per Jonesey's post above.

They can also be ordered thru the local registery office that now holds the original registers, in this case:
Registration Office,
Shire Hall,
Lôn Glanhwfa,
Isle of Anglesey.
LL17 7TW

The local office costs a couple of extra quid - you can't order online, and some (like this one) don't take credit cards, and postage is often extra, so I go along with Jonesey.

Since you can buy them locally, some local offices do have their own indexes online, at least partially - see:
and in particular

Anglesey only seem to have births online, but their indexes aren't identical to the GRO's, and do have extra info, including as a minimum, the subdistrict a B or D was rego'ed in.(and, in Anglesey, the mum's maiden surname). They typically are less precise abt the date cf the GRO.

The local registers office has the original registers that the informant signed in the case of B's & D's, but in the case of M's, only those performed before the registrar (which included all rego office marrs, all non-conformist marrs thru 1898 (1980s for RCs)).

For a C of W (or C of E) marr, the original register the couple signed was held by the church, but when it was full, it was sent to the superintendent registrar for checking his copy, and then deposited in some archive, usually the county records office.

If we're talking abt a church marr, you can order an m.cert from the minister if its in his current rego, and if it's on deposit in the CRO, you can view it there. Sometimes these CRO records are online, like Chris Ho's post from FMP - in this case, the image is also online thru FMP, and I've pm'ed a copy to you.

There are examples of BMD certs online at:
[paste the above 3 lines together to get the URL]