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ErikaH

ErikaH Report 4 Jul 2013 22:22

The parents' forenames are not on the index.

................the only way to get that info is to invest £9.25 in a cert

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 4 Jul 2013 19:57

(have continued on your other 'Thread' Keith)

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1327294

Chris :)

Keith

Keith Report 4 Jul 2013 13:38

Hello it is me again
I have looked of the freeBMD (I am learning) for John Griffiths born 1851 Anglesey
I can find John Griffiths but the fathers name is not Henry
I cannot find a John with a father named Henry
could somebody else look for me to see if it is there and I am not seeing it
thank you so much

Keith

Keith Report 4 Jul 2013 11:31

mgnv
thank you so much for the certificate
I have no idea how you got it but I am very gratfull for it
best regards

Dea

Dea Report 4 Jul 2013 08:41

mgnv,

I cannot get your link at the bottom to work - perhaps it's just me ?

BUT, I thought you might be interested to know of this site


http://goo.gl/

When you get a very long URL and have to split it - this is a site which will shorten it , thus removing the problem.

You just paste the long one in a box and out comes a teeny weeny one !!! :-D :-D

Do have a look, it is quite fascinating ! - Let me know what you think.

Dea x

mgnv

mgnv Report 4 Jul 2013 02:41

The easiest place to get BMD certs is thru the GRO as per Jonesey's post above.

They can also be ordered thru the local registery office that now holds the original registers, in this case:
Registration Office,
Shire Hall,
Lôn Glanhwfa,
Llangefni,
Isle of Anglesey.
LL17 7TW
UK

The local office costs a couple of extra quid - you can't order online, and some (like this one) don't take credit cards, and postage is often extra, so I go along with Jonesey.

Since you can buy them locally, some local offices do have their own indexes online, at least partially - see:
http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/local_bmd
and in particular
http://www.northwalesbmd.org.uk/

Anglesey only seem to have births online, but their indexes aren't identical to the GRO's, and do have extra info, including as a minimum, the subdistrict a B or D was rego'ed in.(and, in Anglesey, the mum's maiden surname). They typically are less precise abt the date cf the GRO.

The local registers office has the original registers that the informant signed in the case of B's & D's, but in the case of M's, only those performed before the registrar (which included all rego office marrs, all non-conformist marrs thru 1898 (1980s for RCs)).

For a C of W (or C of E) marr, the original register the couple signed was held by the church, but when it was full, it was sent to the superintendent registrar for checking his copy, and then deposited in some archive, usually the county records office.

If we're talking abt a church marr, you can order an m.cert from the minister if its in his current rego, and if it's on deposit in the CRO, you can view it there. Sometimes these CRO records are online, like Chris Ho's post from FMP - in this case, the image is also online thru FMP, and I've pm'ed a copy to you.

There are examples of BMD certs online at:
http://
www.direct.gov.uk/prod_consum_dg/groups/
dg_digitalassets/@dg/@en/documents/digitalasset/dg_186584.pdf
[paste the above 3 lines together to get the URL]

Graham

Graham Report 3 Jul 2013 17:38

Keith - if you want us to look up the records just tell us all you can about the people you are researching (apart from those still living - in which case only tell us names, years and area; not exact dates or addresses) :-)

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 3 Jul 2013 17:22

No worries Keith, happy to help, your'e not taking advantage at all!.

Find My Past had the info., would be on GR, but probably Platinum (I don't know these things!)

If you keep same family to your existing 'Thread', it keeps everything together, which in turn helps us to help you.

Chris :)

(we like helping, so don't ever feel stupid, hopefully we can come up with answers, but not always!)

Keith

Keith Report 3 Jul 2013 17:08

thank you so much for the marriage info Chris
sorry to sound stupid
is it better to put all requests for a family on one post or is it better to do a post for each person
thank you again for your help and patience
do you need ancestry to get the details you are providing as all I have is basic Genes Reunited
I am on pension and find doing family tree helps pass the time and is interesting
but I realise people pay a lot of money to access these sites and know I am taking advantage
but once again thank you all

Potty

Potty Report 3 Jul 2013 14:45

Actually, it wasn't Keith who posted the details of the marriage. He was just asking a general question about obtaining certs.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 3 Jul 2013 14:17

That must be it, Chris..............nice one

Perfect illustration of the importance of keeping all requests about one topic to one thread............

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 3 Jul 2013 14:11

Grooms Last Name:Griffiths
Grooms First Name:John (Bachelor) (Labourer)
Grooms Fathers First Name:Henry (Labourer)
Grooms Fathers Last Name:Griffiths
Grooms Parish:
Grooms Age:21
Brides Last Name:Roberts
Brides First Name:Mary (Spinster)
Brides Fathers First Name:Owen (Labourer)
Brides Fathers Last Name:Roberts
Brides Parish:
Brides Age:19
County:Anglesey
Place / Parish:Holyhead
Marriage Year:1872
Marriage Month:Oct
Marriage Day:1
Record source:Anglesey Marriages - Transcripts
Data provider:Welsh Archive Services / Gwasanaethau Archifau Cymru

(witnesses, Owen Roberts, William Hughes. Residence at time for both, Holyhead)

Chris :)

(not sure if this is what Keith is after, did add it this morning, on 'Thread' above)

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 3 Jul 2013 14:05

Keith

Discount all comments regarding marriages pre-1837 - there were no certs then, anyway

The 1872 marriage cert will tell you the ages and occupations of the bride and groom, and the NAMES and OCCUPATIONS of both fathers.........if they were known.

You would benefit from looking at freebmd, and reading the info about what details are on certs........of all kinds

Graham

Graham Report 3 Jul 2013 11:30

If the marriage was before 1837 it would be unlikely that you would be able to get a certificate.

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 3 Jul 2013 11:17

My fault I think I read it as a marriage in 1800 and not the 1800's!!!

Some are just recorded as a marriage between the two being the bride and groom on earlier marriages.

Trust me to throw a spanner in the works!! :-(

Graham

Graham Report 3 Jul 2013 11:13

All the marriage certificates I have record the occupations of the bride & groom and each of their fathers. They also record the date and place of marriage and the ages of the happy couple.

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 3 Jul 2013 10:39

Think you only get that on marriages after 1837.

Keith

Keith Report 3 Jul 2013 10:37

oh I am disappointed I thought I would get the mothers fathers occupation and the grooms fathers occupation
my mistake putting birth instead of marriage
I will not bother if it will only tell me where they married as I already know this thanks to people on genes reunited

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 3 Jul 2013 10:14

The marriage record is on Keith's other thread.

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 3 Jul 2013 10:14

(wonder if below is relating, is so, Marriage details added)

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1327294


Marriages Dec 1872 (>99%)
-----------------------------------------------------
GRIFFITHS John Anglesey 11b 1091
Roberts Mary Anglesey 11b 1091

Chris :)