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James Griffith/s born about 1811 in Pulford

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CassieB

CassieB Report 3 Jul 2013 14:28

I have recently discovered James was my great great grandfather from my great grandmother Eliza Eastwood's death certificate. Via Family Search I have found the household in the 1881 census - James, wife Sarah, stepson Stephen Randall and a lodger William Goodall.
It would be good to know if anyone else researching this family please.

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 3 Jul 2013 14:35

Hello Cassie - to find out if anyone else on this site is researching this family, use the "Search" facility - top right hand corner of his page

Reggie

Reggie Report 3 Jul 2013 14:41

For info

1881 census

Person: RANDALL, Stephen Address: Pulford Old Farm, Pulford

GRIFFITH, James Head Married M 69 1812 General Laborer
Pulford, Cheshire VIEW
GRIFFITH, Sarah Wife Married F 75 1806
Trevallyn, Denbighshire, Wales VIEW
RANDALL, Stephen Step Son Widower M 49 1832 General Laborer
Trevallyn, Denbighshire, Wales VIEW
GOODALL, William Lodger Widower M 58 1823 Coachman (Dom)
Conderton, Worcestershire

Reggie

Reggie Report 3 Jul 2013 14:51

When and where was Eliza born?

When and where did she die?

Reggie

Reggie Report 3 Jul 2013 14:54

Is this the right Eliza?

Marriages Sep 1880 (>99%)
Eastwood Henry Birkenhead 8a 622
GRIFFITHS Eliza Birkenhead 8a 622


Can you say why you've picked on the man born in Pulford to be her father?

England/Wales death certs do not name fathers of deceased persons

Reggie

Reggie Report 3 Jul 2013 15:08

No record in 1851 or 1861 of a James Griffith/s born in Pulford

Tenerife Sun

Tenerife Sun Report 3 Jul 2013 17:14

Re marriage found by Reggie

parents: James Griffiths
spouse: Henry Eastwood
other: Luke Eastwood
Name Henry Eastwood
Event Type Marriage
Event Date 30 Aug 1880
Event Place St Anne, Birkenhead, Cheshire, England
Gender Male
Age (Formatted) 60y
Marital Status
Father's Name Luke Eastwood
Mother's Name
Spouse's Name Eliza Griffiths
Spouse's Marital Status
Spouse's Father's Name James Griffiths
Spouse's Mother's Name
GS Film number 2104041
Digital Folder Number 004018953

CassieB

CassieB Report 4 Jul 2013 11:07

Thank you for your responses. I had a quick search but not found anything - I know that Randall has also been shown as Randles but don't now if Sarah was married before she married my GG grandfather as she had a son. So, don't know if I have her maiden name. Also, whilst I'm not researching him, I had picked up the 1881 census info about the coachman and you never know, perhaps someone is and wondered about his landlord's family. Long shots sometimes pay off!
I have Henry Eastwood & Eliza's marriage certificate and both their death certificates. On Eliza's death certificate her father was "in attendance" and his residence is show as Pulford.

Reggie

Reggie Report 4 Jul 2013 13:57

No record on freebmd of a marriage for James to Sarah

As asked earlier....when did Eliza die?

When was she born?

Also....who witnessed her marriage?

Reggie

Reggie Report 4 Jul 2013 14:07


Name: Stephen Randles
Event Type: Burial
Event Date: 29 Apr 1882
Event Place: Pulford, Cheshire, England
Gender: Male
Age: 49
Marital Status:
Father's Name:
Mother's Name:
Spouse's Name:
Spouse's Marital Status:
Spouse's Father's Name:
Spouse's Mother's Name:
GS Film number: 1751559
Digital Folder Number: 004011882
Image Number: 00088

Reggie

Reggie Report 4 Jul 2013 14:08

????????


Surname: Randles
Given Name: Stephen
Father's Name: James Randles
Mother's Name: Sarah Randles
Birth Date:
School: Pulford School
Residence Place: Lavister, Cheshire, England
Event Date: 01 Apr 1838

safc

safc Report 4 Jul 2013 14:16

Name: James Griffith
Event Type: Marriage
Event Date: 17 Dec 1833
Event Place: St Mary, Chester, Cheshire, England
Gender: Male
Age (Formatted):
Marital Status: Single
Father's Name:
Mother's Name:
Spouse's Name: Sarah Randles
Spouse's Marital Status: Single
Spouse's Father's Name:
Spouse's Mother's Name:
GS Film number: 2045843
Digital Folder Number: 004200803
Image Number: 00280

Reggie

Reggie Report 4 Jul 2013 14:31

Good find, safc....................

So the odds are that Sarah was Eliza's mother..........although we still don't know when Eliza was born

Reggie

Reggie Report 4 Jul 2013 14:49

???????

Name: Eliza Griffith
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 22 Feb 1835
Christening Place: St. Mary, Chester, Cheshire, England
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: James Griffith
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Sarah Griffith
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I05297-0
System Origin: England-EASy
GS Film number: 2045840
Reference ID: item 5 p 71

CassieB

CassieB Report 6 Jul 2013 09:30

The present has been getting in the way of the past - as it so often does!
Thank you for the finds re James' marriage and Eliza's christening.
In reply to Reggie's questions - the marriage of Henry & Eliza was witnessed by a couple surnamed Cooke. When they married, Henry was a 60 year old widower and Eliza a 40 year old spinster (though already had two children - Sarah Griffiths Eastwood born 16 May 1876 at 106 Oliver St, Birkenhead and Herbert my grandfather - don't have his birthdate but he was about 2 or 3 yrs older)
Eliza died on 25 Jul 1882, Henry had already died on 28 Jan 1881, both died at 93 Oliver St, Birkenhead - Eliza, Herbert & Sarah were at no. 93 at the 1881 census.
Apologies in advance if I don't respond quickly to any postings - it'll be a few days before I'll get any free time!

CassieB

CassieB Report 13 Apr 2014 16:57

A GR member has recently contacted me as her friend was seeking info about James and Sarah. The friend is descended from Eliza's sister. We have been emailing and as far as I can work out, she's my third cousin twice removed! So.......hope springs eternal!!