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Samuel Charles 1795 Swansea Not Answered

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Renes Report 7 Jul 2013 00:18

Not sure is you have this --possible marriage for Stephen ... ¿¿¿

Name: Stephen Charles
Spouse's Name: Jane Washington
Event Date: 06 May 1844
Event Place: Wrockwardine, Shropshire, England
Father's Name: Samuel Charles
Spouse's Father's Name: James Washington
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I04338-7
System Origin: England-EASy
GS Film number: 1702245
Reference ID: item 18 p 150 .


Renes Report 7 Jul 2013 00:24

Just posting this here for ref
1841 census transcription details for: Cow Wood, Wellington
National Archive Reference:
RG number: HO107Piece: 907Book/Folio: 5/29 Page: 4
Reg. District: WellingtonSub District: WellingtonParish: Wellington
Address: Cow Wood, Wellington County: Shropshire
Name Relation Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
CHARLES, Samuel M 45 1796 Shropshire
CHARLES, Elizth F 45 1796 Shropshire
CHARLES, Stephen M 20 1821 Shropshire
CHARLES, Emma F 15 1826 Shropshire
CHARLES, Enoch M 11 1830 Shropshire
CHARLES, Ann F 7 1834 Shropshire
CHARLES, Isaac M 5 1836 Shropshire
CHARLES, Harriet F 3 1838 Shropshire


BeverleyW Report 7 Jul 2013 08:52

Just a thought and probably a red herring -
I'm looking at this, I know it's totally the wrong county but in 1841 when his memory was still good (!!) he said he was born in Shropshire and Shropshire and Staffordshire are next to each other!

County Staffordshire
Place Bilston
Church St Leonard
BaptismDate 27 Mar 1796
Forename Samuel
Sex M
FatherForename Samuel
MotherForename Mary
FatherSurname CHARLES


Renes Report 7 Jul 2013 09:50

Yes I saw that he had said "born in county" on 1841 .... Beverley
So its possible I suppose, although Michael said he had the details from St Mary Swansea, but it was lost when the the detail to America but who knows it should definitely be left here it - although he says Swansea 1851

Looked thru the Dawley Magna baptisms last night ... And there is a second family with the surname Charles .... From memory it was a Joseph Charles ... Coincidence or a brother ....... Will post it later

Chris Ho Kindly sent me this
Possible in 1841 ... Mother in law Martha .. Living with father in law ? Or husband ...

PRICE, Richard M 85 1756 Shropshire (Lab)
PRICE, Martha F 60 1781 Shropshire >>>>>>>>>>
HARRIS, Richar M 24 1817 Shropshire
HARRIS, Eliza F 20 1821 Shropshire
HARRIS, George M 0 (2 months) 1841 Shropshire
Piece: 907
Book/Folio: 5/6
Page: 4
Registration District: Wellington
Civil Parish: Wellington
Municipal Borough:
Address: Kettley Dingle, Wellington >>>>>>Love these addresses
County: Shropshire

Also Cow Wood for Samuel

Off out now ... Laters ...


ChristinaS Report 7 Jul 2013 11:19

Family search have Elizabeth Price bap. Wellington, Shropshire 1796 - parents Richard and Martha.

They also have a marriage 27th October 1816 at Madeley, Salop for Samuel Charles and Elizabeth Price

No extra information given though.


Renes Report 7 Jul 2013 13:28

Brilliant Christina

Goodness knows how many times I searched for
baptism Elizabeth Price with mother Martha ... And got nothing ....

and at Wellington, Dawley Magna ... Etc

i must be going blind or doo lally .. Possibly both



Renes Report 7 Jul 2013 13:51

And I still cannot get a result up for Wellington .........

Just now re searching and found this ... There are others being baptised ith Richard and Martha as patents at Dawley Magna -

Name: Elizabeth Price
Christening Date: 07 Jul 1799
Father's Name: Richard Price
Mother's Name: Martha
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: P00859-1
System Origin: England-ODM
GS Film number:

Emma was christened here in 1825

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 7 Jul 2013 19:38

(sends thanks to Renes for adding 1841, couldn't stay in chair here today!)

You all seem to have done well...

Chris :)


Renes Report 7 Jul 2013 19:43

Hi Chris

No records found for Name: Price, Country: England, State or Province: Shropshire, Event: Birth, Place: Wellington, Event Range: 1790-1799, Father Name: Richard Price, Mother Name: Martha Price
Number of results to show: 20 | 50 | 75

why .....

Edit to add this No Results

Search Results from Historical Records
No records found for Name: Samuel Charles, Country: England, State or Province: Shropshire, Event: Marriage, Place: Madeley
Number of results to show: 20 | 50 | 75

Christna can you post the links to the records please .... Before I go bonkers
<3 <3 :-D


Michael Report 7 Jul 2013 20:21

Thank you Renes, Christina and Chris Ho:)
I have at least a date of Marriage now for Samuel and Elizabeth. I will send for a Marriage certificate and see what that leads to.
Thank you seems little to say for all of your efforts.
I did not get what I was looking for (Samuel's Birth in Swansea) I think that I have exhausted all know avenues there to this point; but due to your invaluable help I draw close.
Mike J Charles


Renes Report 7 Jul 2013 20:55


I am sorry to tell you that marriage certificates are only avaliable since 1st July 1837
this leaflet should explain all ---- prior to that - entries were only made in the parish church records - to see the entry you will either need to email the church to see if the registers are there and then visit .. Or ask them to make you a copy and send it to you

I think also you should be able to take the Price line back abit ... You need to search for free at and

Good luck


Michael Report 7 Jul 2013 22:02

Many thanks
I did realise after I posted that there would be no cert available for their marriage.
I have looked everywhere for the parish records and they would appear to be in London
No chance of a local visit then.
Many thanks


ChristinaS Report 8 Jul 2013 10:46

Renes - I've only just come back to this thread. I hope I'm not too late to safe your sanity! 2)


ChristinaS Report 8 Jul 2013 10:52 2)


Renes Report 8 Jul 2013 11:43

Thank you Christina

no idea why my searches did not work ...

Not too worry ....

The bald patch hardly notices :-D :-D

x Renes


Janet Report 8 Jul 2013 17:11

Hello Michael.
There are two Samuel Charles baptised in Swansea St. Mary's. The originals can be viewed on Find My Past.

Samuel Charles baptised 12/11/1806 birth date 6/3/1806 father Samuel

Samuel Charles baptised 2/7/1809 birth date 27/4/1808 father Samuel.

Good luck


Michael Report 8 Jul 2013 17:56

Hi Janet
thanks for looking for Samuel for me.
if he had been either of these he would been 10 when he married in 1816.
It is a headache.
Many thanks again.