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Hannah Trinder in Abingdon workhouse

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Unknown

Unknown Report 5 Jul 2013 20:22

I am trying to add some meat to the bones of my tree. I have found that my Great (x3) Grandmother was in Abingdon Workhouse on the 1841 census. She was just 15 years old and is with her son and daughter, but no other member of her family. Does anyone know how to find more details about this? Thank you.

Mike *

Mike * Report 5 Jul 2013 20:29

Is this her ?


1851
:
Hannah Trinder

Age:26
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1825

Relation:
Spinster (Single)

Where born:Abingdon, Berkshire, England
Civil Parish:Abingdon St Helen
Town:Abingdon


Hannah Trinder 26
Jesse Trinder 11
Selina Panting Trinder 3
Mary Ann Robinson 19

Mike *

Mike * Report 5 Jul 2013 20:36

This appears to be the above Hannah in 1841 so possibly not yours

Joseph Trinder 55
Martha Trinder 60
Jonathan Trinder 19
Hannah Trinder 17
Jessee Trinder 1


****EDIT

So this IS the correct family after all.

Mike *

Mike * Report 5 Jul 2013 20:41

There are 2 Hannah Trinders born Abingdon of same age and here are their marriages



Hannah Trinder

Date of Registration:Jul-Aug-Sep 1854
Registration District:Abingdon
Inferred County:Berkshire
Volume Number:2c
Page Number:414

Records on Page:
Elizabeth Burgess
William Panting
James Ricketts
Hannah Trinder



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Hannah Trinder
Date of Registration:Apr-May-Jun 1848

Registration District:Bermondsey
Inferred County:London
Volume Number:4
Page Number:6

Records on Page:

Mary Ann Ebsworth
Mary Evans
Matthew Hearn
John Thos Lefevre
Harriet Jane North
Thomas Relf
James Spurgin
Hannah Trinder

Mike *

Mike * Report 5 Jul 2013 20:44

1851

John Thos Lefever 25
Hannah Lefever 25 - Berkshire
Jno Wm Lefever 2
Sten Jas Lefever 5 Months

Mike *

Mike * Report 5 Jul 2013 20:45

It would help to know her children's names and ages in 1841

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 6 Jul 2013 17:34

Hello Sarah and welcome to the Community boards.




As Sarah is a new poster, I will send her a friendly message on how to return to her thread. :-)

Potty

Potty Report 6 Jul 2013 18:07

Relationships are not shown on the 1841, so the younger children could be her siblings. Could you post the 1841 that you have please as I can't find her.

Potty

Potty Report 6 Jul 2013 18:13

Could this be her - the charge looks like fraud and she was sentenced to 6 months:


England & Wales, Criminal Registers, 1791-1892
about Hannah Trinder
Name:Hannah Trinder
Age:15
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1827
Date of Trial:1 Jul 1842
Trial Year:1842
Location of Trial:Berkshire, England
Sentence:Imprisonment

Beejay

Beejay Report 7 Jul 2013 09:06

From the parish records of St Helens Abingdon

Christening 18 July 1824 Hannah Trinder dau of Joseph a labourer, & Martha of Ock Street

Marriage 3 Sept 1854
William Panting age 26 Cordwainer to Hannah Trinder (made her mark) age 29
Witnesses William Gerring & Sam Simpson
Fathers John Panting a miller & Joseph Trinder a labourer

Christening 22 Oct 1826 Hannah Trinder dau of William a labourer & Sarah of Vineyard

Marriage 12 Sept 1822 William Trinder to Sarah Caradine

Marriage at St Mary's Bermondsey
8 June 1848
John Thomas Lefevre full age labourer of King Street
Hannah Trinder full age
Witnesses Stephen Barraclough & Mary Lefevre
Fathers Edward Lefevre a porter & William Trinder a gardener

Dea

Dea Report 7 Jul 2013 10:16

Can anyone see this 1841 census which she mentions because I can't find it ???

Dea x

Pam

Pam Report 7 Jul 2013 10:38

1841

TRINDER, Joseph M 55 1786
TRINDER, Martha F 60 1781
TRINDER, Jonathan M 19 1822
TRINDER, Hannah F 17 1824 Berkshire
TRINDER, Jane M 1 1840 Berkshire

Piece: 32

Book/Folio: 3/7

Page: 8

Registration District: Abingdon Union

Civil Parish: St Helen

Municipal Borough: Abingdon

Address: ???, St Helen, Abingdon

County: Berkshire

Pam

Pam Report 7 Jul 2013 10:41

...and there is also this one :

1841

TRINDER, William M 35 1806
TRINDER, Martha F 25 1816 Berkshire
TRINDER, John M 5 1836 Berkshire
TRINDER, Joseph M 2 1839 Berkshire
TRINDER, Hannah F 13 1828 Berkshire
TRINDER, Ann F 0 (5 months) 1841 Berkshire

Piece: 32

Book/Folio: 10/8

Page: 15

Registration District: Abingdon Union

Civil Parish: St Nicholas

Municipal Borough: Abingdon

Address: The Abbey, St Nicholas, Abingdon

County: Berkshire

Dea

Dea Report 7 Jul 2013 10:43

Thanks Pam but it can't be the one OP is talking about because 'that' Hannah is not 15 and in the Workhouse with her son and daughter??

We really need OP to return and post the census she has seen.

Thanks,

Dea x

Mike *

Mike * Report 7 Jul 2013 10:46

The Hannah the poster is looking for was 15 in 1841 but I can't find that entry

Pam

Pam Report 7 Jul 2013 11:37

There is a family tree elsewhere but would consider it suspect as Hannah is recorded in both London and Abingdon on the 1851. The 1841 census records her born in 1824 but owner has changed that to 1826

Flip

Flip Report 7 Jul 2013 12:08

Well, according to the workhouse transcript there is no Hannah there in 1841-

http://www.workhouses.org.uk/Abingdon/Abingdon1841.shtml

Tenerife Sun

Tenerife Sun Report 7 Jul 2013 12:35

Not necessarily the same Hannah Trinder.

Berkshire Chronicle 03/08/33 (This one cant be her if she was born c1827 but perhaps fits in somewhere).

On Monday last an amorous pair, viz. Thomas Wells a rag merchant and widower and Hannah Trinder, a venerable spinster, both of Abingdon, whose united ages amounted to 130 years were married at St Ebb's church Oxford, to which edifice it is presumed they repaired to hide the modest blushes which might otherwise have been exposed to vulgar gaze at St Helens church. Some 40 or 50 years ago Miss Trinder was a female of considerable notoriety.

Berkshire Chronicle 11/06/1842 (right age)

(This is a long entry and I can't C & P it so basically)

Hannah Trinder about 16 years old charged with obyaining goods on false pretences to the calue of 8 or 9 shillings from a drapers store in Abingdon. Hannah stated that she had been sent by Miss Woodbridge and the items were given to her. She returned a second time for more goods and was again given them. Later checking with Miss Woodbridge this was proved to be untrue.
When charged she said nothing in her defence and was commited to take her trial for both offences at the ensuing quarter sessions.

Berkshire Chronicle 09/07/1942 (following on from the above)

Hannah Trinder was charged with obtaining by false pretences 2 bonnets and other articles the property of John Hyde the elder and John Hyde the younger. Pleaded guilty, sentence 6 months omprisionment to hard labour, and to be kept in solitary confinement the first two and last two days of such period.

There is also this 11/06/1842

Accident - Miraculous Escape
GEORGE Trinder - thrown from a waggon which he was driving near Marcham he was riding on the shafts and the wheels passed over his head. taken to Oxford Infirmary with a prospect of a speedy recovery from the bruises he Sustained.

Unknown

Unknown Report 24 Jul 2013 21:38

Thank you so much, everyone, for all your very kind research on my behalf. I seem to have got very muddled. Hannah Trinder is on the 1841 census with her son, Jesse, living with her parents, Joseph and Martha Trinder, along with her brother, Jonathon, in Abingdon, Berkshire. By 1851, she was a slopworker (a maker of cheap ready-to-wear clothing) she by then had a daughter, Selina Panting Trinder, who was aged three years in 1851; Jesse by then was 11 years old. Hannah went on to marry William Panting, a railway foreman by 1861. They married in 1854 in Abingdon in Berkshire. So, from this, Hannah never was in a workhouse. This all ties in with what I have found about the family in latter years. Jesse became a tailor in Regents Street, London, where my Great Grandmother was born. His son became a master cutter in the tailoring trade in York. My apologies to you all and thank you again for helping me to untie the mess I had got my tree into.