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Alex McIntosh

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Joy

Joy Report 6 Jul 2013 06:26

I am looking for information on my great-great-great-grandfather Alex McIntosh. According to the 1851 Scottish Census he was a Farm Manager aged 52 and was born in Nairn-Ardclach. The census was for Cawdor Ecclesiastical Parish and the address was Newlands of Torrich. His wife's name was Jane, aged 59 and she was born in Nairn-Cawdor - I know that her maiden name was McKenzie and if possible any information on her would also be appreciated.

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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 6 Jul 2013 08:09

Scottish records are on Scotlands People which is a pay to view site

You could try Family Search site though that's a free site

patchem

patchem Report 6 Jul 2013 08:30

Welcome to the boards, Joy.

Where have you already looked for information about them, so that we do not duplicate any work that you have done?

Thank-you

Astra

Astra Report 6 Jul 2013 09:41

is this the one you found

1851 census transcription details for: Newlands Of Torrich, Newlands Of Torrich, Cawdor


National Archive Reference:
RG number:
Piece: 122
Folio: 33
Page: 8
Reg. District:
Sub District:
Parish: Cawdor
Enum. District: 3
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Newlands Of Torrich, Newlands Of Torrich, Cawdor
County: Nairn
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
MCINTOSH, Alex Head Married M 52 1799 Farm Mannager
Ardclach, Nairnshire
MCINTOSH, Jane Wife Married F 59 1792 Wife To Mannager
Cawdor, Nairnshire
MCINTOSH, John Son Unmarried M 21 1830 Farm
Nairn, Nairnshire
MCINTOSH, George Son Unmarried M 15 1836 Scholar
Cawdor, Nairnshire
MUNRO, Isobella Niece Unmarried F 12 1839 Scholar
Edinkillie, Morayshire

1841

1841 census transcription details for: 28, Lonich, Lonich, Cawdor


National Archive Reference:
RG number:
Piece: 122
Book/Folio: 2
Page: 5
Reg. District:
Sub District:
Parish: Cawdor
Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 28, Lonich, Lonich, Cawdor
County: Nairn
Name Relation Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
MCINTOSH, Alexr M 40 1801 Ag Lab Nairn
MCINTOSH, Jane F 40 1801 Nairn
MCINTOSH, Isabella F 13 1828 Nairn
MCINTOSH, Alexr M 9 1832 Nairn
MCINTOSH, Donald M 7 1834 Nairn
MCINTOSH, George M 5 1836 Nairn

Astra

Astra Report 6 Jul 2013 09:46

His baptism

Name: Alexander Mc Intosh
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 07 Sep 1798
Christening Place: ARDCLACH,NAIRN,SCOTLAND
Birth Date: 06 Sep 1798
Father's Name: John Mc Intosh
Mother's Name: Isabel Stuart
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C11120-2
System Origin: Scotland-ODM
GS Film number: 990673, 990674
Reference ID:

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 6 Jul 2013 10:03

Joy.....Have you seen this....?




http://www.mackintosh.org.au/more/buninyong2.php

Astra

Astra Report 6 Jul 2013 10:28

I will re-post that marriage. Although I am still not sure. I have a feeling her name should be Grant but she may have been previously married.


Name: Alex Mcintosh
Spouse's Name: Jean Mckenzie
Event Date: 24 Dec 1824
Event Place: Edinkillie,Moray,Scotland:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M11134-4
System Origin: Scotland-ODM
GS Film number: 990797
Reference ID:

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 6 Jul 2013 11:55

Astra....

Didnt want to send Joy on wrong path so have checked out some names on link I posted.....Next door at 28 Torrach is Alex Jane and family.......

1841...

Piece: SCT1841/122 Place: Cawdor -Nairn Enumeration District: 2
Civil Parish: Cawdor (Nai) Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: -
Folio: 2 Page: 5
Address: 27 Torrich



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Surname First name(s) Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
MCINTOSH John M 60 Independent Outside Census County (1841)
MCINTOSH Grace F 40 Nairn
MCINTOSH Grace F 20 Outside Census County (1841)
MCINTOSH Christina F 17 Outside Census County (1841)
MCINTOSH Ann F 15 Outside Census County (1841)
MCINTOSH William M 5 Nairn
CAMPBELL Bell F 20 Female Servant Outside Census County (1841)
GRANT Margraet F 20 Female Servant Nairn
CAMERON Sarrah F 25 Female Servant Nairn
SMITH Margraet F 20 Female Servant Outside Census County (1841)
MCINTOSH John M 12 Ag Lab Outside Census County (1841)
MCRITCHIE William M 15 Ag Lab Nairn


Helen

Helen Report 6 Jul 2013 12:31

Scotlandspeople .. possible

Death:
Jane M*intosh / M*Kenzie (cross-ref name) age 82yrs
1873
County: Nairn
District: Nairn

Parents names should be recorded on the death certificate .. if known by the informant.


1861 Scotland Census about Jane Mackintosh ?
Name: Jane Mackintosh
Age: 68
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1793
Relationship: Mother-in-law
Gender: Female
Where born: Ardclach, Nairnshire
Registration number: 137
Registration District: Forres
Civil Parish: Forres
County: Moray
Address: Pilmuir
Occupation: Ag Lab
ED: 1A
Household Schedule Number: 22
Line: 22
Roll: CSSCT1861_19
Household Members: Name Age
James Smith
24
Jane Smith
27
Andrew Smith
10 Mo
Jane Mackintosh
68
Isabella Mackintosh
29
Ewen Bisset
10
Simon Bisset
6

According to familyseach, Andrew is the son of James Smith and Jane McIntosh



1871 Scotland Census about Jane Mcintosh ?
Name: Jane Mcintosh
Age: 80
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1791
Relationship: Mother
Gender: Female
Where born: Nairn, Nairnshire
Registration number: 123/1
Registration District: Nairn Burgh
Civil Parish: Nairn Burgh
County: Nairnshire
Address: 1 & 2 Wilson's Court
Occupation: Annuitant
ED: 5
Household Schedule Number: 217
Line: 8
Roll: CSSCT1871_23
Household Members: Name Age
Isabella Fraser
43
Charles Fraser
15
Anne Fraser
9
Jane Mcintosh
80
Ann Mcdonald
18
Maria Cumming
71










Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 6 Jul 2013 13:07

I am bamboozled to say the least...!

John McIntosh and Grace Grant McIntosh also had a son Alex. 1816....they also appear to be the parents of Grace Grant McIntosh who went onto marry Simon Morrison ...
Could Alex at No 28 (1841) be a Brother to John....???



Joy

Joy Report 7 Jul 2013 07:08

Thank you to everyone who have researched and replied to my post.

Shirley I had previously tried Scotlands People and Family Search without much success.

Patchem I have looked as I have said at Scotlands People and Family Search, also have looked at Ancestry.com and Census records.

Astra yes the 1851 Census record is the one I found. The baptism record that you have found with father as John and mother as Isabel Stuart may be the Alex McIntosh I am looking for. The McIntosh web site you gave does have all the other information correct. The marriage of Alex and Jean McKenzie I believe is correct. In the IGI Record of his marriage it has his birth about 1801 Of Firhnie, Nairn.

Eringobragh1916 like you I am bamboozled with all the different information. You say that it appears that Grace Grant McIntosh who married Simon Morrison was the daughter of John McIntosh and Grace Grant McIntosh, but she was definitely the daughter of Alex and Jane McIntosh - IGI Record birth 21/10/1825 father Alexander Mackintosh and mother Jane Mackenzie I have been trying to find out why John and Grace both the children of Alex and Jane have their second names as Grant and believe that it must be connected somehow to their parents.

Helen the 1861 and 1871 Census details that you have found I believe do show Jane McIntosh and also the death details I believe are her. I had been trying to find when both Alex and Jane died but had not had any success.

I am sorry to answer all the posts with this one reply, but was unsure of any other way to do it.

I am most grateful to you all.

Joy

Joy Report 7 Jul 2013 07:48

My apologies Eringobragh for crediting Astra for the McIntosh web site - I was reading all the different replies and got a little confused.

Quite some time ago I was given the names of the parents of Alexander McIntosh as Alexander McIntosh and Elizabeth Wallace and that he was born in 1802 in Edinkillie, Moray, Scotland - I definitely do not believe that this is correct.

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 7 Jul 2013 09:09

Joy....No apologies necessary... We all "work" together so to speak ..

Grace Grant McIntosh married Simon Morrison below....

Simon Morrison
Spouse's Name: Grace Mackintosh
Event Date: 25 Sep 1846
Event Place: Cawdor,Nairn,Scotland

It may be worthwhile checking their marriage to see who her parents were....

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 7 Jul 2013 09:18

Joy.....

John and Grace plus family 1851....Grace "Grant" McIntosh wouldnt have been their daughter their Grace is still at home....

Address: Torrich



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Surname First name(s) Rel Status Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
MCINTOSH John Head M M 70 Farmer Of 84 Acres Inverness-shire - Inverness
MCINTOSH Grace Wife M F 58 Farmers Wife Nairn - Cawdor
MCINTOSH Grace Dau U F 26 Farmers Daughter Nairn - Auldearn
MCINTOSH Christina Dau U F 24 Farmers Daughter Nairn - Auldearn
MCINTOSH William Son U M 14 Farmers Son Nairn - Cawdor
MCINTOSH Jessie Rose Servnt U F 18 Housemaid Nairn - Cawdor
FRASER Betty Servnt U F 25 Kitchen Maid Inverness-shire - Kiltarlity
MCLEOD Ann Servnt U F 24 Dairy Maid Ross and Cromarty - Knockbain
MATHESON John Servnt U M 18 House Boy Ross and Cromarty - Lochalsh
BAIN William Servnt U M 17 Ploughman Inverness-shire - Dors
MCINTOSH Alexr Servnt U M 16 Herd Boy Inverness-shire - Petty

Joy

Joy Report 8 Jul 2013 05:53

Eringobragh1916
Quite some years ago I did an IGI search on Familysearch which gave details of the children of Alexander Mackintosh and Jane Mackenzie and Grace Grant Mackintosh is named there and her birth was on the 21st October 1825 and christening on 28/10/1825 Forres, Moray, Scotland. I have just done a death search on Ancestry.com and there is a record of her death there and her parents are named as Alex McIntosh and Jane McKenzie.
The Jessie Rose housemaid in the above 1851 Census married Grace's brother John (my great-great-grandfather) on 2/9/1853.

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 8 Jul 2013 08:16

Joy....I found this and believe it relates to John and Grace....may be of value if you connect to that family at some stage......

Cawdor Graveyard...

: Mackintosh John - Grace

Erected / by / Alexander MACKINTOSH Esq. / Calcutta / to the Memory of his
Father / John Mackintosh Esq. / Who departed this life / on the 21st October
1854 / Aged 81 Years / and of his brother John / Who Died June 18?? / Aged
22 / ?????? / Also / To the Memory of his Mother / Mrs. Grace Mackintosh /
who died / on the 15th April 1858(?) / Aged 64(?) Years / And of his sister
Grace / Who Died ?? March 18??

Joy

Joy Report 9 Jul 2013 05:27

Eringobragh1916

Thank you very much for that information on John and Grace Mackintosh from the Cawdor Graveyard. It is possible that John was Alexander's brother, just guessing here though, but is worth looking into.
If John and Grace are buried in the Cawdor Graveyard then it is quite likely that Alexander and Jane are also.

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 9 Jul 2013 08:18

Joy...Thats what I was looking for but couldnt find anything relating to them..only the above but will have another trawl around

Joy

Joy Report 9 Jul 2013 10:38

Eringobragh1916

I am grateful for all that you are doing. I live in Australia and find it a little difficult finding where to search.