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Are you saying the picture you have of Eliza Leary/Higgs is in Ireland during the potato famine, because the one we seem to have found is supposedly from Middlesex???

Irish potato famine was in 1845 so maybe it was Eliza Higgs senior whose family was affected by it.

Yep...I do remember him well...although i was young then....I have always known his real name...he never used it...and always went by the name of Leary...my brother swapped his war medals for 2 white mice....!!...lol....but thats another story...!!...lol...

just looking at the photo of Eliza ...she reminds of the wicked witch in the wizard of oz...but this lady has her fur coat and hat on and is laughing...its gotta be at me..!!

Why on earth does it say Ireland potatoe famine...?
Maybe her mum or dad originated from there...?

Gonna keep looking for any info on Edward Higgs or possibly it might be her mother with the name of Higgs...lol.....sooooooo confusing..!!...lol.. :-D

Just to clarify - though I know it's nothing to do witih the Higgs question! -


If William Charles Leary was born Schnackenberg, do you mean that the birth posted by Astra (today 16:16) is not the right person?

Just to throw the cat among the pigeons.....could this be Eliza's baptism but as a 'Leary'?!

Name: Eliza Leary
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 14 Oct 1866
Birth date: 24 September 1866
Father's Name: Edward Leary occ Silk Trimmer
Mother's Name: Eliza Leary
Parish or Poor Law Union: Limehouse Fields St John
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Register Type: Parish Registers

Address: 7 Catherine Terrace

What relation is she to you?
Which of her children is your next in line?

Guess I must soldier on and try to find Edward Higgs..if this is her real father and not a mistake on the marraige cert ....and that she gave her mothers maiden name of Higgs...?...lol :-S

You're saying that William Charles Leary was born as Schnackenberg?

oooo...it just gets better and better....I have a photograph and on the back it says Eliza Leary / Higgs....Ireland potatoe famine...family from Ireland...!!...can you believe this lady is actually laughing at me....!!... I will solve this puzzle...even if she is turning me grey...!!...lol..What a family...so mixed up...!!..... :-D

Edited. Posted same census as Maddie.

On her marriage to Humm she states her father as Edward Leary. On her marriage to William Leary she states her father as Edward Higgs.

wrong.....?...lol....this lady is sending me nuts....to confirm...
Eliza Leary.was born1866
Her mother is Eliza Higgs...?
Her father is Edward Leary...?
Yet on Eliza's marraige certs to both Robert Humm and Willaim Charle Leary she states her fathers name is HIGGS...?...

my thoughts was that her mother was first married to a Higgs then she married a Leary and her children took the name Leary...

Then I know that when Eliza 's husband Robert died she married William Charles Leary ....her step brother...he was also a lot younger than her and I do remember him William Charles Leary but not Rliza as she had died .

Ha Ha ,,,it gets better Willaim Charles Leary was a polish jew who adopted this name ...his real name is Schnackenberg.....

Oh dear oh dear ...this lady sure led some kinda life...!!....But back to her father HIGGS...?...was this just a mistake on her marraige certs...?...but twice...?....lol

Jeez guys ....thank you for all your help....!!...It sure is appreciated...what a puzzle...lol...

?????

1891 England Census about William Leary
Name: William Leary
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Edward Leary
Mother's Name: Elizabeth Leary
Gender: Male
Where born: Bethnal Green, London, England

Civil Parish: Bethnal Green
Ecclesiastical parish: St James the Less
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration District: Bethnal Green
Sub-registration District: Bethnal Green East
ED, institution, or vessel: 3b
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 267
Folio: 114
Page Number: 7
Household Members:
Name Age
Edward Leary 42
Elizabeth Leary 51
John Leary 21
George Leary 19
William Leary 10
Florance Leary 6

?? Something wrong here. They can't have had the same father!

Name: William Charles Leary
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 31 Jan 1883
Father's Name: Edward Leary
Mother's Name: Elizabeth Leary
Parish or Poor Law Union: Bethnal Green St John
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Register Type: Parish Registers

Birth date given as 5th October 1880 which matches with his birth registration in the December quarter

Who did Eliza senior marry after Edward Leary died?

More details of the possible marriage posted by Maddie

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Edward Larey
Name: Edward Larey
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839
Age: 23
Spouse Name: Eliza Higgs
Spouse Age: 20
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 8 Jun 1862
Parish: Bethnal Green St Bartholomew
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Father Name: John Larey
Spouse Father Name: John Higgs
Register Type: Parish Register

Edward Leary is a Silk Weaver which would fit the 1871 census
John LArey is a Gaslighter
John Higgs a Ropemaker

I can't read the address of bride and groom

So on her marraige cert.... that must be an error and she gave her mothers name instead of her father....oooooo and what a fibber my nanny was...and jeez this lady's life is so confusing she has me going round in circles...!!...lol... :-D...thank you all for your help...!!... :-D

if the 1862 marraige i posted is correct her mothers name is Higgs ????????

Thats her first husband Robert Humm and second is William Charles Leary...but the Higgs birth 1867 was male...?....Eliza was born in 1866...guess Eliza could have been born out of wedlock...?.... :-D

The marriage of Eliza Humm to William Charles Leary was on 19 July 1910 and she gave her age as 39.....I suppose she could have told a porky because her husband was 30!

EDIT

Name: Eliza Humm
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871
Age: 39
Spouse Name: William Charles Leary
Spouse Age: 30
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 19 Jul 1910
Parish: Old Ford St Paul
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Father Name: Edward Higgs
Spouse Father Name: Edward Leary
Register Type: Parish Register

Edited. On her Humm marriage her father is stated as Edward Leary. Where does the name Higgs come from?