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Thank you very much for your replies, sorry about the delay in my response. I have the information that you gave to me other than what is a marine fireman ? The other was regarding the last sighting of JJW. I have a cutting from the local Ashton paper about the death of JJW's mother in which it states " she was worried about her son who was in the Navy". This was dated in 1921. Other that I'm stumped. Thanks anyway but if you find anymore let me know. Cheers Ian.

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Wonder if this is him in 1905?

UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960 about Lance Corp Wilkshire
Name: Lance Corp Wilkshire
Departure Date: 9 Dec 1905
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Destination Port: Sierra Leone
Ship Name: Mendi
Search Ship Database: Search the 'Mendi' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database


Wasn't sure if there was a Lance Corporal in the navy but there is:-

Lance Corporal is the third enlisted rank in the Marine Corps, equivalent to a Private First Class in the Army.

Another version of marriage:-

Liverpool, England, Marriages and Banns, 1813-1921 about John Joseph Wilkshire
Name: John Joseph Wilkshire
Birth Year: abt 1879
Age: 22
Occupation: Mariner
Address:- 3 Gilbal Street
Marriage Date: 17 Sep 1901
Parish: Liverpool, St Nicholas
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Hughes
Age:- 21yrs.
Address:- 62 Gilbal Street
Father's Name: Job Wilkshire
Occupation:- Carter
Spouse Father's Name: Thomas Hughes
Occupation:- Labourer (deceased)
Reference Number: 283 NIC/3/106

A further child born in 1912.

Presumably the 1921 'sighting' was at his father's funeral?

Deaths Jun 1921 (>99%)
Wilkshire Job 62 Ashton 8d 524

1911 census


Person: WILKSHIRE, Elizabeth Address: 34 Hampton Liverpool

HUGHES, Hannah Head Widow F 53 1858 Lancs Toxteth Park L Pool VIEW
WILKSHIRE, Elizabeth Daughter Married9 years F 30 1881 Lancs Toxteth Park L Pool VIEW
WILKSHIRE, John Grandson M 9 1902 Lancs Toxteth Park L Pool

1891 census

Person: WILKSHIRE, John Address: 59, Boodle Street, Ashton Under Lyne

WILKSHIRE, Job Head Married M 50 1841 Carter
Ireland VIEW
WILKSHIRE, Katherine Wife Married F 40 1851
Ireland VIEW
WILKSHIRE, John Son M 11 1880
Yorkshire VIEW
WILKSHIRE, Katherine Daughter F 8 1883
Lancashire VIEW
WILKSHIRE, David Son M 6 1885
Lancashire VIEW
WILKSHIRE, James Son M 4 1887
Lancashire VIEW
BATIGAN, Michael Lodger Single M 35 1856 Navys Labourer
Ireland Co Mayo VIEW
BURDIKER, Richard Lodger Single M 35 1856 Tool Maker
Yorkshire VIEW
MURPHY, Michael Lodger Married M 24 1867 Spindle Maker
Lancashire VIEW
MURPHY, Lucy Lodger Married F 23 1868 Cotton Weaver
Lancashire

Is this the right family in the 1891 census? :-

1891 census transcription details for: 59, Boodle Street, Ashton Under Lyne

National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG12
Piece: 3278
Folio: 95
Page: 13
Reg. District: Ashton under Lyne
Sub District: Ashton Town
Parish: Ashton under Lyne
Enum. District: 24
Ecclesiastical District: Christchurch
City/Municipal Borough: Ashton under Lyne

Address: 59, Boodle Street, Ashton Under Lyne
County: Lancashire

Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born

WILKSHIRE, Job Head Married M 50 1841 Carter
Ireland
WILKSHIRE, Katherine Wife Married F 40 1851
Ireland
WILKSHIRE, John Son M 11 1880
Yorkshire
WILKSHIRE, Katherine Daughter F 8 1883
Lancashire
WILKSHIRE, David Son M 6 1885
Lancashire
WILKSHIRE, James Son M 4 1887
Lancashire
BATIGAN, Michael Lodger Single M 35 1856 Navys Labourer
Ireland Co Mayo
BURDIKER, Richard Lodger Single M 35 1856 Tool Maker
Yorkshire
MURPHY, Michael Lodger Married M 24 1867 Spindle Maker
Lancashire
MURPHY, Lucy Lodger Married F 23 1868 Cotton Weaver
Lancashire

Kath. x

From LancsBMD

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1901
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
WILKSHIRE John J HUGHES Elizabeth Liverpool, Our Lady & St. Nicholas & St. Anne Liverpool 2053LP/88/135

Have you looked for info on freebmd?

His marriage is on there.............

A marine fireman is not the same as a stoker

I'm trying to find out what happened to JJW. He was born in England, registered birth in Barnsley in 1880, parents Job and Catherine Wilkshire. He lived in Liverpool and was a marine fireman, presumably that means a stoker, and was last heard of in 1921 whilst still serving in the Navy, Royal or merchant I don't know. If anyone has any info. please let me know. Thanks. Ian.