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Peter

Peter Report 15 Jul 2013 08:43

I have posted the 1871 census for Thomas Walne 1836. It shows his wife Alice and daughter Elizabeth. He also had a daughter Margaret Alice in 1873.

I cannot find this family in the 1881 or 1891 census.

Help appreciated
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1871 census transcription details for: Park Lane Orrell Cottage, Orrell & Ford

RG number: RG10 Piece: 3838 Folio: 37 Page: 6
Reg. District: West Derby
Sub District: Litherland
Parish: Orrell & Ford
Enum. District: 3
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Park Lane Orrell Cottage, Orrell & Ford
County: Lancashire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
WALNE, Thomas Head M 35 1836 Lancashire
WALNE, Alice Wife F 29 1842 Lancashire
WALNE, Elizabeth Daughter F 3 1868 Lancashire
STOCTON, Charles Lodger M 23 1848 Lancashire


ErikaH

ErikaH Report 15 Jul 2013 09:05

Have you looked for deaths?

Did they perhaps emigrate?

How did you work back to them?

Where was Margaret Alice born?

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 15 Jul 2013 09:06

Have you tried searching using only forenames and birth info?

The surname would appear open to being mis-heard.............

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 15 Jul 2013 09:09

Thomas was born THORNLEY - Occupation : Farm Labourer
Alice was born KIRBY
Elizabeth was born LIVERPOOL

Peter

Peter Report 15 Jul 2013 09:09

Reggie

Thanks for reply

I am looking for deaths
They didn't emigrate
They both married the same man, Elizabeth in 1891 died 1900 and Margaret in 1901.
Margaret was born Lancashire, registered W Derby

safc

safc Report 15 Jul 2013 09:09

????

Thomas Walne, "England and Wales Census, 1881"
Name: Thomas Walne
Age (Original): 42
Gender: Male
Birth Year: 1839
Birthplace: Chipping, Lancashire, England
Relationship to Head of Household: Head
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Stone Quarryman
Address: 2 Green Lane
Event Place: Dilworth, Lancashire, England
Disability:
Record Type: Household
GS Film number: 1342016
Affiliate Publication Number: RG11
Piece/Folio: 4245 / 73
Page Number: 58
Household Gender Age Birthplace
Head Thomas Walne M 42 Chipping, Lancashire, England
Wife Alice Walne F 46 Whittingham, Lancashire, England
Daughter Maria Yates F 22 Whittingham, Lancashire, England
Son William Yates M 18 Goosnargh, Lancashire, England
Son Thomas Yates M 15 Whittingham, Lancashire, England
Son Thomas Walne M 12 Dalgarth, Cumberland, England
Daughter Margaret Yates F 9 Whittingham, Lancashire, England
Daughter Ellen Walne F 8 Dalgarth, Cumberland, England
Son Robert Yates M 6 Longridge, Lancashire, England
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"England and Wales Census, 1881," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XQ62-MZJ : accessed 15 Jul 2013), Thomas Walne, 1881.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 15 Jul 2013 09:13

He re-married

1901 census


Person: WALNE, Thomas Address: 26, Warbreck Avenue, Walton On The Hill, Liverpool

WALNE, Thomas Head Married M 64 1837 Gardener
Thornley, Lancashire VIEW
WALNE, Mary Wife Married F 39 1862
Billinge, Lancashire VIEW
WALNE, Thos J Son Single M 22 1879 Militia Man South Lancs
Orrell Ford, Lancashire VIEW
NEVIN, William Boarder Single M 23 1878 Iron Turner
Wigan, Lancashire

Peter

Peter Report 15 Jul 2013 09:13

Thank you SAFC

Did find that one ???????????????

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 15 Jul 2013 09:16

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1889
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference

WALNE Thomas LITTLER Mary Walton, St. Mary Liverpool 2012WD/15/218

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 15 Jul 2013 09:17

Deaths Dec 1881 (>99%)
Walne Alice 36 W. Derby 8b 413

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 15 Jul 2013 09:18

Births Jun 1879 (>99%)
Walne Thomas James W. Derby 8b 474

safc

safc Report 15 Jul 2013 09:20

Name: Thomas Walne
Birth Date: 1838
Birthplace:
Age: 51
Spouse's Name: Mary Littler
Spouse's Birth Date: 1859
Spouse's Birthplace:
Spouse's Age: 30
Event Date: 12 Oct 1889
Event Place: Walton-On-The-Hill, Lancashire, England
Father's Name: Thomas Walne
Mother's Name:
Spouse's Father's Name: John Littler
Spouse's Mother's Name:
Race:
Marital Status: Widowed
Previous Wife's Name:
Spouse's Race:
Spouse's Marital Status: Single
Spouse's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M00867-5
System Origin: England-EASy
GS Film number: 1647989
Reference ID: no.19, pg109-218

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 15 Jul 2013 09:21

That 1881 is not the right family, sorry to say, safc

Peter

Peter Report 15 Jul 2013 09:21

Thank you Reggie

Just arrived at same conclusions after using your 1901 census output

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 15 Jul 2013 09:22

1891 census

Person: WALNE, Thomas J Address: 1, Rawcliffe Road, Walton On The Hill

WALNE, Thomas Head Married M 54 1837 Labourer
Thornby, Lancashire VIEW
WALNE, Mary Wife Married F 30 1861
Billinge, Lancashire VIEW
WALNE, Thomas J Son M 13 1878 Scholar
Walton, Lancashire VIEW Piece: 2976 Folio: 88 Page: 16 Registration District: West Derby Civil Parish: Walton on the Hill Municipal Borough

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 15 Jul 2013 09:23

This is Alice Yates with her children in 1871....

1871 England Census
about Maria Yates Name: Maria Yates
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Robert Yates
Mother's Name: Alice Yates
Gender: Female
Where born: Whittingham, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Whittingham
Ecclesiastical parish: Goosnargh
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration District: Preston
Sub-registration District: Broughton
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Household Schedule Number: 9
Piece: 4217
Folio: 42
Page Number: 1
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Yates 38
Alice Yates 36
Henry Yates 14
Maria Yates 12
William Yates 8
Thomas Yates 5
Henry Glover 47
James McPhillips 23
Benjamin Tobin 51
Edward Wood 19
Edward Rigby 16
Edward McMann 23


So not the right 1881.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 15 Jul 2013 09:25

1891 census

Person: WALNE, Margaret Address: 12, Grey Road, Walton On The Hill

ROSE, George Head Married M 40 1851 Corn Merchants Clerk
Liverpool, Lancashire VIEW
ROSE, Ellen Wife Married F 37 1854
Camden Town, London VIEW
ROSE, George C Son Single M 16 1875 African Merchants Clerk
Liverpool, Lancashire VIEW
ROSE, Ellen E Daughter F 14 1877 Scholar
Melling, Lancashire VIEW
ROSE, Perry Isaac Son M 12 1879 Scholar
Melling, Lancashire VIEW
JESSE, David Wm Boarder Married M 30 1861 Corn Merchants Clerk
Guernsey VIEW
JESSE, Emily Ann Sister In Law Married F 30 1861
Camden Town, London VIEW
JESSE, Ellen Emily Niece F 1 1890
Walton on the Hill, Lancashire VIEW
WALNE, Margaret Servant Single F 17 1874 General Servant Domestic
Walton on the Hill, Lancashire VIEW

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 15 Jul 2013 09:25

England & Wales Christening Records, 1530-1906
about Thomas James Walne Name: Thomas James Walne
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 5 May 1879
Christening Date: 18 May 1879
Christening Place: Walton on the Hill, Lancashire, England
Age at Christening: 0
Father's Name: Thomas Walne
Mother's Name: Alice

Peter

Peter Report 15 Jul 2013 09:48

Thank you Everyone

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 15 Jul 2013 09:50

I have looked on Ancestry and FMP..........still no luck with the 1881. Sorry.

:-(