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Dorman/McCormick

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Senga

Senga Report 15 Jul 2013 12:50

Looking for clarification on Elizabeth Dorman. All census say she was born in Scotland but went to records office and I can't find certificate. Her birth year 1844. She married Thomas McCormick in 1864 in Scotland. Her parents were Thomas Dorman and Ann Neil. She died in Govan 14.5.1926.
The Dormans originally came from Ireland and I now suspect she was born there but I don't know which County.
I am also looking for Alexander McCormick born in Ireland. Again all census don't give County. He was born 1806 and married Helen Thomson (Thompson). He was an Agricultural Labourer. His father was William McCormick and mother Catherine Jamieson. He died 2.3.1874 in Wigtownshire, Scotland. Their children were Mary Jane McCormick b.1826 William b.1828 Helen 1830 Alexander 1832 John 1834 Robert 1837 Janet M. 1839 Catherine 1841 and the said Thomas McCormick above 1844 - They were all born in Scotland.

Any help appreciated - thanks

Senga

Senga Report 15 Jul 2013 12:51

I like to have the certificates

Potty

Potty Report 15 Jul 2013 13:03

If she was born in 1844, you won't find a birth cert - civil registration did not start in Scotland until 1855. You will need to look for a baptism. Where in Scotland does the census say she was born?

safc

safc Report 15 Jul 2013 13:06

Thomas Dormon, "Scotland, Marriages, 1561-1910"
Name: Thomas Dormon
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Age:
Spouse's Name: Annie Neill
Spouse's Birth Date:
Spouse's Birthplace:
Spouse's Age:
Event Date: 15 May 1843
Event Place: Leswalt,Wigtown,Scotland
Father's Name:
Mother's Name:
Spouse's Father's Name:
Spouse's Mother's Name:
Race:
Marital Status:
Previous Wife's Name:
Spouse's Race:
Spouse's Marital Status:
Spouse's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M11891-4
System Origin: Scotland-ODM
GS Film number: 1068038, 0102350
Reference ID:

Maddie

Maddie Report 15 Jul 2013 13:06

is this her in 1861
Name: Elizabeth Dormon
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844
Relationship: Daughter
Father's Name: Thomas Dormon
Mother's Name: Ann Dormon
Gender: Female
Where born: Leswalt, wigtonshire
Registration number: 896
Registration District: Portpatrick
Civil Parish: Portpatrick
County: Wigtownshire
Address: Lagganmore
Occupation: Shoemaker
ED: 3
Household Schedule Number: 58
Line: 9
Roll: CSSCT1861_148
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Dormon 37
Ann Dormon 36
John Dormon 19
Elizabeth Dormon 17
Jane Dormon 15
Michael Dormon 13
Ann Dormon 11
Martha Dormon 9
Agnes Dormon 7
Margaret Dormon 5
Susan Dormon 3
Mary Dormon 2 Mo
Barney Mcginnes 19

both parents born in scotland

safc

safc Report 15 Jul 2013 13:08

Elizabeth Dorman, "Scotland, Marriages, 1561-1910"
Name: Thomas Mccormick
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Age:
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Dorman
Spouse's Birth Date:
Spouse's Birthplace:
Spouse's Age:
Event Date: 02 Sep 1864
Event Place: Leswalt,Wigtown,Scotland
Father's Name:
Mother's Name:
Spouse's Father's Name:
Spouse's Mother's Name:
Race:
Marital Status:
Previous Wife's Name:
Spouse's Race:
Spouse's Marital Status:
Spouse's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M11891-1
System Origin: Scotland-ODM
GS Film number: 6035516
Reference ID:

Thelma

Thelma Report 15 Jul 2013 13:08

From Mundia,



Elizabeth Dorman

1844 - 1926

Born: Leswalt, Wigtownshire, Scotland

Lived in: Govan, Lanarkshire, Scotland

Died: Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland

Potty

Potty Report 15 Jul 2013 13:09

Is this her in 1851:

1851 Scotland Census
about Elizth Derman
Name:Elizth Derman
[Elizth Dorman]

Age:6
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1845
Relationship:Daughter
Father's Name:Thos Derman
Mother's Name:Ann Derman
Where born:Leswalt, wigtonshire
County:Wigtownshire
Address:Auchneel
Thos Derman 28
Ann Derman 27
Elizth Derman 6
Jane Derman 5
Mikle Derman 3
Annie Derman 1


Potty

Potty Report 15 Jul 2013 13:22

These Dorman are living at the same address in 1841:

1841 Scotland Census
Thomas Dorman
Age:15

Estimated Birth Year:bt 1826
Wigtownshire, Scotland
Civil Parish:Leswalt
County:Wigtownshire

Address: Auchneel
Occupation:Ag Lab
Michael Dorman 60 b Ireland
Elizabeth Dorman 50 b Ireland
Thomas Dorman 15 b Wigtownshire
Agnes Dorman 10 b Wigtonshire
James Dorman 2 b Wigtonshire

So it looks as if Thomas's grandparents were Irish

Reggie

Reggie Report 15 Jul 2013 13:23

You'll need to look for a baptism....................too early for Civil registration

I would have thought that the staff at the records office would have advised you about that

Potty

Potty Report 15 Jul 2013 14:11

Living at Auchneel in 1861 - Agnes could be the 10 year old from the 1841 - Elizabeth is shown as Mother-in-law:

Name:Elisabeth Dorman

Age:70
Estimated Birth Year:
abt 1791

Relationship:Mother-in-law
Where born:Ireland
Registration District:Leswalt
Civil Parish:Leswalt

County:Wigtownshire
Address:Auchneel

Occupation:Crofter W

James Welch 35 b Ireland
Agnes Welch 30
James Welch 11 b Ayr
Susan Welch 9 b England
Thomas Welch 7 b Leswalt
Elisabeth Dorman 70 b Ireland


Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 15 Jul 2013 17:17

Senga...Have you got this.....


WIGTOWNSHIRE BIRTHS

DORMAN/NEIL
Mary Dorman born 30/1/1861 at Lagganmore, Portpatrick, daughter of Thomas Dorman, Ploughman, and Ann Neil..

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 15 Jul 2013 20:40

Senga....You dont mention if you have the info.relative to Anne Neil's parents...so here it is....
There were other children as well born same area....

Name: Ann O'Neil
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 15 Jun 1823
Christening Place: , LESWALT, WIGTOWN, SCOTLAND
Birth Date: 14 Jun 1823
Father's Name: John O'Neil
Mother's Name: Elizabeth Kennedy

Marked As Answer Marked as Answered

Senga

Senga Report 15 Jul 2013 21:56

Dear All
Many thanks for the information, you are all 'spot on'.
When I mentioned certificates, I class all print outs as certificates. I have looked for Baptism for Elizabeth but without success.

Many thanks again.