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Patrick Callaghan 1890 Eire >Staffordshire

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Sarah

Sarah Report 21 Jul 2013 19:09

Hello everyone, I'm looking for some help to fill in the gaps about Patrick Callaghan.
I have a death certificate for him which states the following:

Born 1890 Eire, father named as Thomas callaghan
Died 8/2/1970 at Lichfield hospital
Usual address, Whittington, Staffordshire.
He married Ethel Illsley and they had 5 children

The death certificate names another daughter with a different surname. I'd like to know if he and Ethel divorced? I'm not sure why he came to England or where in Ireland he was from.....Many thanks.

Stuart

Stuart Report 21 Jul 2013 19:14

Marriage 1919 Burton on Trent, Staffs.
Civil Registration event: Marriage

MarriageFinder: Patrick Callaghan married Ethel Illsley
Name: CALLAGHAN, Patrick
Registration district: Burton upon Trent
County: Staffordshire
Year of registration: 1919
Quarter of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Spouse's last name: Illsley
Volume no: 6B
Page no: 510

Stuart

Stuart Report 21 Jul 2013 19:16

Death cert gives DOB - this is to the best of knowledge of the informant and may not be accurate

Civil Registration event: Death

Name: CALLAGHAN, Patrick
Registration district: Lichfield
County: Staffordshire
Year of registration: 1970
Quarter of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Date of birth: 17 July 1890
Volume no: 9B
Page no: 864

Stuart

Stuart Report 21 Jul 2013 19:26

1911 census shows 3 Patrick Callaghans b Ireland 1890 +/- 2 years. All are in the Army
Age 19 b 1892 Dublin Army Service Corps Driver/Fitter. In Farnham, Surrey
Age 19 b 1892 Dublin. 2 R Dublin Fusiliers Private. In Hartney Witney, Hampshire
Age 21 b 1890 Ireland - can't read exact place. Private 2nd Battalion The Leinster Regt serving in Jullundar, Punjab, India


He may not be in England in 1911 though

Sarah

Sarah Report 21 Jul 2013 19:27

Thanks! Never thought of the date being inaccurate......

Sarah

Sarah Report 21 Jul 2013 19:31

Interesting......I've seen the India information before when researching but it's hard to know if it's him without knowing why, and where he came to after leaving the Army - assuming he was in the Army.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 21 Jul 2013 19:33

Hello Sarah, I might be being really dim here but could the other daughter's surname be different because she was married?

Sarah

Sarah Report 21 Jul 2013 19:46

Hi there,
the other daughter was a half-sibling to his other children. Her maiden name and her married name are different. She is the informant on the death certificate.

Sarah

Sarah Report 21 Jul 2013 20:01

Hello again. Just thinking.... Is it likely that any of the regiments listed on the previous post would have been posted to the Midlands area for some reason? That might explain why Patrick ended up in Staffordshire and married a woman from Derbyshire.

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 21 Jul 2013 20:17

Sarah....If you check Free BMD you will see there were 7 children born to that couple between 1920 and 1927.

Stuart

Stuart Report 21 Jul 2013 20:19

you may know -
Burton on Trent is on the Derbys/Staffs border and it's RD covers both counties. Lichfield is 10-12 miles along the A38, the RD's adjoin each other.

There are/were certainly Army Barracks at Lichfield, not necessarily of units mentioned above. However if he was not part of a Battalion he could have been posted anywhere he was needed and be attached to them

Patrick could have come to England for work at any time and ended up in the Burton area. The marriage certificate should give his occupation at time of marriage and occupation of his Father which may help

Sarah

Sarah Report 21 Jul 2013 20:27

Unfortunately they are both recorded as labourers!

Stuart

Stuart Report 21 Jul 2013 20:37

I'll just throw into the mix, that as they married immediately post WW1, could it have been Ethel was involved in War work away from home and that is how they met, returning to the Burton area to marry and settle?

Stuart

Stuart Report 21 Jul 2013 20:42

??? a coincidence
1911 census transcription details for: 56 Hearthcote Road Swadlincote

National Archive Reference:
RG14PN16773 RG78PN1041 RD365 SD3 ED4 SN145
Reg. District: Burton upon Trent
Sub District: Gresley
Parish: Church Gresley
Enum. District: 4
Address: 56 Hearthcote Road Swadlincote
County: Staffordshire
Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
CALLAGHAN, Margaret Head Married F 68 1843 Ireland
CALLAGHAN, Thomas M 72 1839 Collier Labourer Retired Irland

Stuart

Stuart Report 21 Jul 2013 20:56

Another Thomas in the area 1881, a better age to have an 1890 child. (And they are in Whittinghton, which is the usual place of abode on your Patrick's death cert. ?????????

1881 census transcription details for: Whittington Barracks Military Depot, Whittington

National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG11
Piece: 2776
Folio: 95
Page: 6
Reg. District: Lichfield
Sub District: Lichfield
Parish: Whittington
Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Whittington Barracks Military Depot, Whittington
County: Staffordshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
WRIGHT, Bridget Mary Wife Married F 27 1854 Dressmaker & Machinist Ireland
POACHER, James Head Married M 35 1846 Private 64 Regiment Woodbridge, Suffolk
POACHER, Catherine Wife Married F 27 1854 Scotland
POACHER, James Son Single M 4 1877 Scholar Portsmouth, Hampshire
POACHER, Effie Ann Daughter Single F 2 1879 Colchester, Essex
POACHER, Sophia Daughter Single F 0 1881 Ireland
CALLAGHAN, Thomas Head Married M 37 1844 Soldier Ireland
CALLAGHAN, Isabella Wife Married F 30 1851 Newcastle, Northumberland
CALLAGHAN, Minnie Daughter Single F 8 1873 Scholar Barbados, West Indies
CALLAGHAN, Thomas Son Single M 4 1877 ScholarMalta
CALLAGHAN, George Son Single M 1 1880 Channel Islands, Jersey, Channel Islands
MAGEE, Hugh Head Married M 27 1854 Color Sergeant 98 Regiment Ireland
MAGEE, Jane Wife Married F 21 1860 Dressmaker Malta
MAGEE, Mabel Daughter Single F 0 1881 Malta

And many more than this, too many to print out

Need to follow these up but un fortunately have to sign off for now, but a couple of ideas for you.

Sarah

Sarah Report 21 Jul 2013 20:58

Thanks for your research, never seen that info before! Seems too much of a coincidence not to be them.

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 21 Jul 2013 21:18

There is a Marriage of a Thomas Callaghan to an Isabella Nichol recorded Ncle. for Sept.1870 10b 222 and again to the same Isabella Nichol Ncle Dec 1870 10b 80

Name: Thomas Callaghan
Birth Date: 1843
Birthplace:
Age: 27
Spouse's Name: Isabella Nichol
Spouse's Birth Date: 1847
Spouse's Birthplace:
Spouse's Age: 23
Event Date: 26 Dec 1870
Event Place: St. Andrew'S, Newcastle-Upon-Tyne, Northumberland, England
Father's Name: Thomas Callaghan
Mother's Name:
Spouse's Father's Name: Thomas Nichol

Sarah

Sarah Report 21 Jul 2013 21:57

Thanks for your research. Bit confused though! -1870 and 1970?? Same names?

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 21 Jul 2013 22:16

Sorry sarah...should both read 1870..!

That family is in Morpeth 1891 Census but I dont have access to view details...there is also a son Hugh Callaghan

Name: Minnie Callaghan
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1891
Gender: Female
Age: 18
Relationship to Head of Household: Daughter
Birthplace: Barbadoes
Schedule Type: Household
Registration District: Morpeth
Sub-District: Morpeth
Ecclesiastical Parish: Morpeth
Parish: Morpeth
County: Northumberland

Someone may be able to check it out for verification/elimination purpose to determine if it is connected to your Patrick

Sarah

Sarah Report 21 Jul 2013 22:23

Haha, thought I was going mad reading those dates! Thanks so much for your time and research, it is very much appreciated.
Heres hoping there is someone out there who can connect some of the information and see if it leads back to Patrick.