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Reuben Saunders circa 1809 Chesham

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Grahamwfc

Grahamwfc Report 23 Jul 2013 16:54

New to building my tree and seeking info on Reuben Saunders father of Hannah Riddle

Hannah Riddle is my 2nd great Grandmother

1851 census aged 16 appears as Hannah Ridle, born chesham, living in Hawridge Chesham, occupation Straw Plaiter.

1861 census aged 27 spelt Riddel

Married Eli Final Chesham 11/11/1861 Chesham, brides fathe quoted a Reuben Saunders, labourer, witnesses, Edwin Dwight & Mary Dwight, not names I know.

There is Reuben Saunders in 1851 census living as lodger with Topping family, head of family Thomas, Burrows, Hendon , Middx - aged 42. Found on random google search

Family search, shows christening of a Reuben Saunders, 29/4/1810, Cholesbury, chesham, bucks, parents James Saunders & Elizabeth Saunders

Trying to establish, parents of Reuben and mother of Hannah Riddle

Thank you

Graham Smth

Grahamwfc

Grahamwfc Report 23 Jul 2013 16:56

Sorry , the Hendon, census quotes as born in Chesham and a labourer, not therefore a random choice :-0

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 23 Jul 2013 17:19

Name: Reuben Saunders
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 29 Apr 1810
Christening Place: CHOLESBURY,BUCKINGHAM,ENGLAND
Father's Name: James Saunders
Mother's Name: Elisabeth
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C07318-1
System Origin: England-ODM
GS Film number: 919225

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 23 Jul 2013 17:23

Name: Hannah Final
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1871
Gender: Female
Age: 35
Relationship to Head of Household: Wife
Birthplace: Chesham, Buckinghamshire
Schedule Type: Household
Registration District: Amersham
Sub-District: Chesham
Parish: Chesham
County: Buckinghamshire
Household Gender Age Birthplace
Head Eli Final M 33 Chesham, Buckinghamshire
Wife Hannah Final F 35 Chesham, Buckinghamshire
Son George Final M 10 Chesham, Buckinghamshire
Daughter Jane Final F 8 Chesham, Buckinghamshire
Son Alfred Final M 5 Chesham, Buckinghamshire

Mike *

Mike * Report 23 Jul 2013 17:55

There is also this baptism ...


Name:
Reuben Sanders

Gender:Male
Birth Date:25 Feb 1810

Christening Date:12 Apr 1810
Christening Place:Dinton, Buckinghamshire, England

Age at Christening 0
Father's Name:Francis Sanders
Mother's Name:Mary

Mike *

Mike * Report 23 Jul 2013 18:09

The original 1851 census has no occupation for Hannah who is described as Niece.


Mary Plested 48 - pauper
James Plested 12 - son
Hannah Ridle 16 - niece


3 doors away lives James and Ann Riddle and their daughter Eliza is a straw Plait maker




Mike *

Mike * Report 23 Jul 2013 18:16

For our ref

1861

Edwin Dwight 29
Mary Dwight 29
Hannah Riddel 27- unmar - Lodger
Elizabeth Riddel 3 - lodger
George Riddel 4 Months - lodger

Assume the children belong to Hannah

Tenerife Sun

Tenerife Sun Report 23 Jul 2013 18:19

I think Hannah died in 1879,Amersham covers Chesham, even though Eli is recorded as married in the 1881 census


Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page
Deaths Mar 1879 (>99%)
Final Hannah 44 Amersham 3a 361

Mike *

Mike * Report 23 Jul 2013 18:20

1841

Ann Riddle 27
Anna Riddle 6 - born:Buckinghamshire, <<<<<


Could this be Hannah ?

Grahamwfc

Grahamwfc Report 23 Jul 2013 18:27

Thank you so much everyone that is just fantastic, really appreciate all the kind help :-) :-) <3

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 23 Jul 2013 18:28

Name: Reuben Saunders
Age (Original): 71
Gender: Male
Birth Year: 1810
Birthplace: Ford Dinton, Buckinghamshire, England
Relationship to Head of Household: Head
Marital Status: Widower
Occupation: Shepherd & Ag Labourer
Address: Ford Dinton
Event Place: Dinton, Buckinghamshire, England
Disability:
Record Type: Household
GS Film number: 1341357
Affiliate Publication Number: RG11
Piece/Folio: 1473 / 114
Page Number: 1
Household Gender Age Birthplace
Head Reuben Saunders M 71 Ford Dinton, Buckinghamshire, England
Daughter Sarah Saunders F 38 Moreton Dinton, Buckinghamshire, England
Son James Saunders M 42 Ford Dinton, Buckinghamshire, England

Grahamwfc

Grahamwfc Report 23 Jul 2013 19:45

Thank you Anncardiff, I think I managed just now back to establish the Dinton Reuben married in Dinton, so as unusual as the name is, not my old rogue,

Really impressed with the information you all produce. Had my first visit to a bucks record office today and quickly discovered I need a set plan and not to butterfly around. The big database that you can drill into is only available on a Tuesay but the local Family History Society help on a Tuesday and they found RS in the marriage records for me.

So much to learn and understand but a worthwhile exercise I'm finding.

Thank you all again xx :-)

Penny

Penny Report 24 Jul 2013 08:16

to add a bit of meat to the bones, witnesses


Name:Edwin Dwight

Date of Registration:Jul-Aug-Sep 1852

Registration District:Amersham

Inferred County:Buckinghamshire

Volume Number:3a

Page Number:444

Edwin Dwight
Mary Finall

At a guess I'd say Mary was Eli's sister.

( Dwight I can lay claim to!)

Co-incidentally Hannah is with them in 1861 census, lodger


Name:Hannah Riddel
Age:27

Estimated Birth Year:bt 1834

Relation Lodger

Gender:Female

Where born:
Chesham, Buckinghamshire, England



Civil Parish:Chesham

County/Island:Buckinghamshire

Country:England

Condition as to marriage: UNMARRIED!


Registration District:Amersham

Sub-registration District:
Chesham
ED, institution, or vessel:
11b


Household Schedule Number:49

Piece:846

Folio:8

Page Number10

Household Members

Edwin Dwight 29
Mary Dwight 29
Hannah Riddel 27
Elizabeth Riddel 3
George Riddel 4 Months






Grahamwfc

Grahamwfc Report 24 Jul 2013 08:59

Thank you Penny, very detailed and all helpful, the search for a on for Mum

Graham x

Tenerife Sun

Tenerife Sun Report 24 Jul 2013 14:14

This has to be a connection somewhere

Pallot's Marriage Index for England: 1780 - 1837 about Jas Plested
Name: Jas Plested
Spouse: Mary Riddle
Marriage Date: 1831
Parish: Chesham

The following was found by MIke* earlier in the thread

1851

Mary Plested 48 - pauper
James Plested 12 - son
Hannah Ridle 16 - niece


3 doors away lives James and Ann Riddle and their daughter Eliza is a straw Plait maker


Tenerife Sun

Tenerife Sun Report 24 Jul 2013 14:52

Graham are you still looking for Hannaha mother?


1841 with possibly her mother

Name: Mary Plessed (corrected to Plested)
[Mary Plested]
Age: 38
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1803
Gender: Female
Civil Parish: Chesham
Hundred: Burnham
County/Island: Buckinghamshire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

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Registration District: Amersham
Sub-registration District: Chesham
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 47
Book: 12
Folio: 6
Page Number: 7
Household Members:
Name Age
Mary Riddles 73
Mary Plessed 38
Jas Plasled 3

Grahamwfc

Grahamwfc Report 24 Jul 2013 15:10

Thank you Tenerife Sun

Is the possible deduction, Mary' s brother is James Riddle and Hannah is the child of his wife Ann albeit by Reuben Saunders? I guess more likely another sibling of Mary?

I have some scribbled notes that Hannah may have siblings. I have C 1851 by them which indicates I used that census, Eliza 19, Jane 13, Sophia 7. I think on the 1861 there is an Ann Riddall aged 67. I may have taken these from the UKcensusonline website as don't have ability to drill into, so surmising

I really appreciate your help thank you

Graham :-)

Grahamwfc

Grahamwfc Report 24 Jul 2013 15:20

Tenerife Sun, I have just see your subsequent message, thank you and yes still looking for mum

Am I being a clutz here, who is mum from the information provided on your 1841 search.?

:-)

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 24 Jul 2013 15:26

Bucks marriages -

Danl. Roberts, labr., & Frances Saunders . . 20 July ,1702,

Christopher Saunders, w., victualler, & Anne Clark, w. . . . . . . . . 27 Jan. ,, 1712

Wm. Sanders & Mary Gravney 1677

Wm. Sanders & Isabel Hickman 1677

Jos. Saunders, of Amersham, & Eliz. Osborne,1798

Full text of "Buckinghamshire parish registers. Marriages"
Full text of "Buckinghamshire parish registers. Marriages"
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AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 24 Jul 2013 15:26

The National Archives | Access to Archives
Her father Leonard Saunders, ... Marriage settlement of the Rev. Benjamin Plummer Pratton of Boxmoor, Herts, and Mary Anderson of Chesham, Bucks, 1843, ...
www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/A2A/?records.aspx?cat=008-dx... - Cached
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The following names of witnesses to the Charter appear in Feet of Fines for Bucks., 7 ... yeoman, Nicholas Bennett of Chesham, surgeon ... Frauncis Saunders of ...
www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/a2a/?records.aspx?cat=008-d... - Cached