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Harriet Shephard/Shepherd

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Christopher

Christopher Report 26 Jul 2013 17:43

I am looking for a Harriet Shephard/Shepherd born november 1891 according to her death details..her father was Herbert Shephard/Shepherd he was a groundsman on a race course according to her marriage certificate in 1912. It does not say that Herbert is deceased. Harriet had a son before marriage to Harry Ward the son's name was Charlie/Charles Shepherd...can find nothing on 1911. Although Harriet was living in Southall at time of marriage...any help appreciated. Thanks

kira112

kira112 Report 26 Jul 2013 18:04

0nly this one for date given

Births Dec 1891 (>99%)
Shepherd Harriet Manchester 8d 267

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 26 Jul 2013 18:55

Hi Christopher - when and where was Charlie born?

Was it Harry Ward that she married in 1912, or someone else?

Vera

Vera Report 26 Jul 2013 19:00

Marriages Mar 1912 (>99%)

Is this your Harriett.....?

Shephard Harriett Ward Uxbridge 3a 76
Ward Harry Shephard Uxbridge 3a 76



Regards Vera

Catherine

Catherine Report 26 Jul 2013 20:02

What address and occupation does Harriet give on her marriage certificate?

Catherine

Catherine Report 26 Jul 2013 20:56

Now, I have been having a look and I have a theory:-

What do you think about this one?

1911

He is single and noted as being a Labourer but his address is interesting as he is living at the Racecourse.

SHEPHARD, Herbert Head Single M 45 1866 General Labourer Haddenham Bucks VIEW

RG number: RG14
Piece: 7272
Reference: RG14PN7272 RG78PN354 RD132 SD2 ED27 SN5
Registration District: Edmonton
Sub District: Wood Green Enumeration
District: 27 Parish: Wood Green
Address: Grand Stand Alexandra Park Racecourse Wood Green
County: Middlesex

....................................................

Following him back:-

1901 England Census about Herbert Shephard
Name: Herbert Shephard
[Herbert Shepherd]
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866
Relation: Brother-in-law
Gender: Male
Where born: Haddenham, Buckinghamshire, England
Civil Parish: Hornsey
Ecclesiastical parish: Hornsey St Mary
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Registration District: Edmonton
Sub-registration District: Hornsey
ED, institution, or vessel: 32
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 293
Piece: 1242
Folio: 26
Page Number: 43
Household Members:
Name Age
William Emery 40
Harriet Emery 39
Harriet Emery 6
Herbert Shephard 35
...............................................................................

Your Harriet was born in 1891 and this Herbert was lodging in 1891 with a Jane Fareham, but notice she has daughter aged 4 months old called Harriet :-

1891 England Census about Herbert Shepherd
Name: Herbert Shepherd
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: Haddenham, Buckinghamshire, England
Civil Parish: Wombwell
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: Wombwell
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation: Clay Miner

Registration District: Barnsley
Sub-registration District: Darfield
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3778
Folio: 73
Page Number: 29
Household Members:
Name Age
Jane A Fareham 24 born: Thorne, Yorkshire (Widow)
George H Fareham 3
Harriet Fareham 4/12
Herbert Shepherd 26

.........................could it be possible that this Harriet and your Harriet are one in the same????

Catherine

Catherine Report 26 Jul 2013 21:15

This looks to be George H. Fareham in 1901:-

1901 England Census about George Faireham
Name: George Faireham
[Goerge Faireham]
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1888
Relation: Grandson
Gender: Male
Where born: Darfield, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Darfield
Ecclesiastical parish: Darfield All Saints
Town: Low Valley
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Registration District: Barnsley
Sub-registration District: Darfield
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 218
Piece: 4319
Folio: 84
Page Number: 43
Household Members:
Name Age
William Fletcher 67
Mary A Fletcher 68
William Faireham 17
Mary J Faireham 14
George Faireham 13
............................................

Wondering if this could be the marriage for Jane A. from 1891 census?

Marriages Jun 1883 (>99%)
xxxx Fareham William Henry Barnsley 9c 215
Findlow Elizabeth Barnsley 9c 215
xxxx Fletcher Jane Ann Barnsley 9c 215
SQUIRES Thomas Barnsley 9c 215

..............................................

.....................and this could possibly be the death of her husband William Henry?

Deaths Jun 1889 (>99%)
FAREHAM William Henry 29 Barnsley 9c 141

.................so if all of this is true, then Jane was a widow from the 1889 so was probably the father of George Fareham:-

Births Dec 1887 (>99%)
Fareham George Henry Barnsley 9c 218

..................................but who was the father of Harriet????

Births Dec 1890 (>99%)
Fairham Harriet Barnsley 9c 226

(although she was born in last quarter of 1890 and not 1891)?

But, as I said before, it is just a theory!

Catherine

Catherine Report 26 Jul 2013 21:22

Carrying on from my theory.........................

Couldn't find a Harriet Fareham in 1901, but I did find this:-

1901 England Census about Harriet Shepard
Name: Harriet Shepard
[Harriet Shepherd]
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1891
Relation: Granddaughter
Gender: Female
Where born: Wombwell, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Haddenham
Ecclesiastical parish: Haddenham St Mary
Town: Haddenham
County/Island: Buckinghamshire
Country: England
Street Address:
Registration District: Aylesbury
Sub-registration District: Haddenham
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 158
Piece: 1354
Folio: 32
Page Number: 25
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Shepard 73
Emma Shepard 63
Harriet Shepard 10

................Harriet born same date and place as Harriet Fareham but here living with Herbert Shepard's parents and noted as Grandaughter.

..........................................


This is Herbert in 1881 with his parents, Joseph and Emma (same as above census):-

1881 England Census about Herbert Shepherd
Name: Herbert Shepherd
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Joseph Shepherd
Mother's Name: Emma Shepherd
Gender: Male
Where born: Haddenham, Buckinghamshire, England
Civil Parish: Haddenham
County/Island: Buckinghamshire
Country: England
Street Address: Croft
Occupation: Ag Lab
Registration District: Aylesbury
Sub-registration District: Haddenham
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1471
Folio: 13
Page Number: 20
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Shepherd 50
Emma Shepherd 44
Herbert Shepherd 17
Sarah Ann Shepherd 12
William Shepherd 10

Catherine

Catherine Report 26 Jul 2013 21:31

In 1911, above Harriet (born 1890, Wombwell, Yorkshire) is living in Middlesex as was Herbert Shepherd:-

TAYLOR, Louise Head Married F 55 1856 Private Means Harrogate Yorks VIEW
TAYLOR, Chales William Son Unmarried M 16 1895 Student Of Chemistry Tefracombe Devon VIEW

xxxx SHEPPERD, Harriet Servant Single F 20 1891 General Servant Domestic Wombwell Yorks VIEW xxxx

RG number: RG14 Piece: 6894 Reference: RG14PN6894 RG78PN343A RD128 SD4 ED27 SN196 Registration
District: Brentford
Sub District: Brentford
Enumeration District: 27
Parish: Ealing Address: 25 Carew Road Ealing County: Middlesex

....................and Brentford is just a few miles from Southall !!!!

alviegal

alviegal Report 26 Jul 2013 21:47

Think this may be Jane Ann in 1901.

Civil Registration event: Marriage
Print Close
Name: FAIRHAM, Jane Ann
Registration district: Barnsley
County: Yorkshire
Year of registration: 1897
Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun
Spouse's last name: Not available before 1912
Volume no: 9C
Page no: 313

MarriageFinder: Jane Ann Fairham married one of the following people:

CHAPPELL, Reuben

HARRISON, Harry



1901 census transcription details for: Highfield Road, Horbury
Print Close

National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG13
Piece: 4287
Folio: 78
Page: 25
Reg. District: Wakefield
Sub District: Horbury
Parish: Horbury
Enum. District: 4
Ecclesiastical District: Horbury St Peter's
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Highfield Road, Horbury
County: Yorkshire (West riding)
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
CHAPPELL, Reuben Head Married M 35 1866 Platelayer's Labourer
Horbury, Yorkshire
CHAPPELL, Jane A Wife Married F 35 1866
Doncaster, Yorkshire
CHAPPELL, Edith Daughter Single F 3 1898
Horbury, Yorkshire

alviegal

alviegal Report 26 Jul 2013 21:50

And her death.


Civil Registration event: Death
Print Close
Name: CHAPPELL, Jane Ann
Registration district: Wakefield
County: Yorkshire
Year of registration: 1903
Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun
Age at death: 56
Volume no: 9C
Page no: 48

Catherine

Catherine Report 26 Jul 2013 21:52

1901 Harriet was living reg.dist. Aylesbury. There was a Charles Shepherd born in 1907 same reg.dist. :-

Births Jun 1907 (>99%)
Shepherd Charles Aylesbury 3a 1021

....................which would make Harriet 17yrs old so is possible?

Need to find him in 1911 now to confirm or eliminate!

alviegal

alviegal Report 26 Jul 2013 21:53

That certainly looks good to me Catherine. A great piece of sleuthing!

Catherine

Catherine Report 26 Jul 2013 21:55

This could very well be him in 1911????

HARRIS, H Frederick George Father Widower M 72 1839 Warickshire VIEW
CARVETH, Annie Daughter Widow M 45 1866 Dressmaker Kilburn VIEW
HARRIS, Amy Daughter Single F 26 1885 Card Board Box Hand N Kilburn VIEW
CARVETH, Jessie Granddaughter Single F 22 1889 Card Board Hand Box Chelsea VIEW

SHEPHERD, Charlie Nurse Child M 3 1908 Aylesbury VIEW

RG number: RG14 Piece: 206 Reference: RG14PN206 RG78PN7 RD3 SD1 ED12 SN307
Registration District: Fulham
Sub District: North Hammersmith Enumeration
District: 12 Parish: Hammersmith Address: 14 Wilton Road Hammersmith W County: London

Catherine

Catherine Report 26 Jul 2013 22:09

Thanks alviegal,
It does all seem to fit together nicely but Christopher's going to have to buy a few certs. to prove it all I'm afraid.
Hope he comes back to see what he thinks.

Christopher

Christopher Report 27 Jul 2013 08:05

Thank you all. Plenty to go on :-)

Catherine

Catherine Report 27 Jul 2013 13:25

Christopher,
You haven't answered any of the questions posed.

What did Harriet give as her address and occupation on the marriage cert. ?
When and where was Charles born?

Do you think my theory is plausable?

Do you have any other information, no matter how small, that fits with any of the information I found?

Christopher

Christopher Report 28 Jul 2013 21:37

Catherine, sorry I am looking at the information that you have all supplied and collating it with the information I have as soon as i have completed running your findings against my own i shall get back to you...but in the mean time in answer to your above questions: Her address was the same as her husbands at the time of marriage, she had no occupation. Still checking on Charles.
Regards
Chris