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greengrocers ran by finks in kingston

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Geoffrey

Geoffrey Report 25 Aug 2013 13:22

hi the finks used to own a greengrocers in red lion road tolworth in the 1960s if that is any help :-D

Stephanie

Stephanie Report 30 Jul 2013 23:39

Thank you all so much you have answered many questions which i didnt know the answer to. I got confused between the deaths and didnt realise they lived above the shop thanks very much xx

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 30 Jul 2013 20:47

This may be one of George and Annie's children who died:

Surrey, England, Baptisms, 1813-1912

Name: Richard George Fink
Baptism Date: 31 Oct 1890
Archive Provided Parish: Surbiton Hill, Christ Church
Parish as it Appears: Surbiton Hill, Christ Church
Father: George Fink - Salesman
Mother: Annie Fink
Reference Number: 2741/1/3

Address 1 Etwell Place. It was a private baptism.


Surrey, England, Burials, 1813-1987

Name: George Richard Fink
Birth Year: abt 1890
Burial Age: 5/12
Burial Date: 20 Jan 1891
Archive Provided Parish: Kingston Upon Thames, All Saints
Parish as it Appears: Kingston Upon Thames
Reference Number: P33/1/37

Address 1 Etwell Place.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 30 Jul 2013 20:38

Have sent Stephanie a pm in case she wants images.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 30 Jul 2013 20:29

The witnesses at Ernest's marriage seem to be his brother with his wife. William's surname got mangled on the transcription! It's Fink on the image.

Surrey, England, Marriages, 1754-1937

Name: William Richard Frick - greengrocer of Christchurch, Surbiton
Age: 20
Birth Year: abt 1892
Marriage Date: 10 Jun 1912
Archive Provided Parish: Long Ditton, St Mary
Parish as it Appears: Long Ditton
Spouse: Alice May Clifford of Long Ditton
Spouse Age: 20
Father: George Frick (Fink) - Greengrocer
Spouse Father: Frederick Clifford - Labourer
Reference Number: 3833/1/16

Neither married before.

Witnesses: W C Fry and E Clifford

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 30 Jul 2013 20:01

Looking at the enumerator's list for the 1911 census the address of 13 Alpha Road was listed as a shop. George Fink had also put on the form that he worked at home. It seems likely, therefore, that the family lived over the shop.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 30 Jul 2013 19:52

They seem to be an unfortunate family for the men dying young:

England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007

Name: Ernest E Fink
Birth Date: abt 1892
Date of Registration: Sep 1933
Age at Death: 41
Registration District: Kingston
Inferred County: Surrey
Volume: 2a
Page: 476

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 30 Jul 2013 19:32

This is the marriage of Ernest Fink:

Surrey, England, Marriages, 1754-1937

Name: Ernest Fink - Greengrocer
Age: 21
Birth Year: abt 1892
Marriage Date: 14 Apr 1913
Archive Provided Parish: Kingston Upon Thames, All Saints
Parish as it Appears: Kingston Upon Thames
Spouse: Elsie May Rickwood
Spouse Age: 21
Father: George Fink DECEASED - Greengrocer
Spouse Father: William Rickwood (Deceased) - Coal Merchant
Reference Number: 3148/1/1

Neither previously married. Both give address as 4 Vicarage Road.

Witnesses: Alice May Fink and William Fink.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 30 Jul 2013 19:21

This is the probate for the 1928 death:

England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966
Name: Albert George Fink
Probate Date: 29 Nov 1928
Death Date: 5 Nov 1928
Death Place: Surrey, England
Registry: London, England

Of 11 James Street, Surbiton. Died in Kingston General Hospital.. Administration, with will, to Ernest Edward Fink, dealer. Effects £108 12s

ADDED: Death record for the above

Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page
Deaths Dec 1928
Fink Albert G 27 Kingston 2a 552

This wasn't the death of Ernest's father - it was his brother. (Father already died in 1912)

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 30 Jul 2013 19:11

Stephanie, you said your George died died 1928 so I'm a bit puzzled by this:

He lived 13 Alpha Road, which is the same address as on the 1911 census.

Surrey, England, Burials, 1813-1987

Name: George Fink
Birth Year: abt 1867
Burial Age: 45
Burial Date: 14 Oct 1912
Archive Provided Parish: Kingston Upon Thames, All Saints
Parish as it Appears: Kingston Upon Thames
Reference Number: P33/1/42

ADDED: Death index for the above

Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page
Deaths Dec 1912
Fink George 45 Kingston 2a 484

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 30 Jul 2013 16:45

No mention of being a greengrocer per se..........
1911 census


Person: FINK, Ernest Address: 13 Alpha Road Surbiton




FINK, George Head Married M 42 1869 General Dealer New Malden Surrey VIEW
FINK, Annie Wife Married21 years F 38 1873 Surbiton Surrey VIEW
FINK, William Son Single M 20 1891 Assisting In Business Surbiton Surrey VIEW
FINK, Ernest Son Single M 18 1893 Assisting In Business Surbiton Surrey VIEW
FINK, Dorothy Daughter Single F 16 1895 Surbiton Surrey VIEW
FINK, Frederick Son M 14 1897 Surbiton Surrey VIEW
FINK, Albert Son M 9 1902 Surbiton Surrey

Two other children born in marriage have died.........

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 30 Jul 2013 16:43

So not necessarily Kingston?

Stephanie

Stephanie Report 30 Jul 2013 16:42

So this is what i know so far it was run george fink who was from new malden and lived in surbiton and then it passed down to his son ernest fink. george was born george fink but was also shown on docments as albert george fink he died in 1928 on the 5th of november. Birth year for him was 1869 and ernest was born 1893.

so the greengrocers was around the kingston upon thames area. surbiton or new malden

thanks

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 30 Jul 2013 14:23

Give us some forenames, birth years and birthplaces.............

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 30 Jul 2013 13:52

But which Kingston as there are quite a few in England

Or check out this site
http://www.historicaldirectories.org/hd/

Stephanie

Stephanie Report 30 Jul 2013 13:30

Both i dont know the address i just know that it was ran by my ancestors.
Thank you for the chamber of trade tip ill do that next. I dont know the address either

thanks

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 30 Jul 2013 13:29

The 1911 census does not show anyone named Fink living in Kingston who professes to be a greengrocer

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 30 Jul 2013 13:26

Not sure what you're after

Do you wish to know about people.............or just the shop?

If the latter, you'll need to contact the Chamber of Trade

What was the address of the shop?

Stephanie

Stephanie Report 30 Jul 2013 13:22

Im looking for any information about a greengrocers ran by the fink family from 1910ish.

Any info would be appreciated

thanks

steph