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Hi I also had a look and there is one in 1942 in London - David 'Colin' W Richardson... with the mother maiden name Cooke as - but i agree the surry one's also look possible too. I think i am going to apply for the birth certificate of the David Colin one and then the surry ones.

Ill let you know what comes back


Many Thanks as always
Emma

Hi Emma, I'm pleased everything was upfront about the previous marriage - it avoids the dilemma about whether to say anything or not.

I've had a look on FreeBMD and there are two Richardson births in Surrey 1944/1945 with mother's maiden name Cooke. However, they aren't unusual surnames......

Hi I got the marriage certificates today and you were right Colin Arthur Richardson did have a previous wife and it looks as though Chris grandma knows about it as it was on her marriage certificate that Colin had been previously married.

Hillary had been married to Leslie JamesTaylor previously and had obtained a divorce from him. he maiden name was Cooke. Her full name was Hilary Compton...

Do you think it was possible they had any children as i cant find any myself?

Margaret THOMAS nee EDDY died in 1954 aged 92! More to follow...

Just repeating Margaret May's siblings (note from her father's death cert that she was known as May)

Francis Albert 1882 Sandhurst, d. 1882 aged 4 months
Henrietta Louise 1883 Sandhurst {Ettie], m. Unknown MORGAN, d. ?
Frederick Victor 1886 Richmond [Fred], m. Isabel May DEW 1911, d. 1 Oct 1953 East Malvern

The Argus, Friday 2 October 1953
THOMAS, Frederick Victor. - On October 1 (suddenly), at his residence, 779 Dandenong road, East Malvern, beloved husband of Isobel May Thomas and loved father of Frederick, Alan, Kenneth, Leonard, Douglas and Maxwell (deceased).
-Peacefully sleeping.

The Argus, Thursday 14 June 1951
THOMAS - On June 13, at her residence, 779 Dandenong road, Malvern, Isobel May, beloved wife of Frederick Victor Thomas, loved mother of Fred, Alan, Kenneth, Leonard, Douglas, and Maxwell (killed in action), loved mother-in-law of Betty, Rene, Lorna, Gwen, and Laura, aged 61 years.
-Mother and son united.

Both memorialised at Springvale Botanical Cemetery, as are 3 sons.

Children of Frederick & Isobel/Isabel (all births show her as Isabel):
1. Frederick Victor 1907 Dandenong (as DEW, then reg as THOMAS in 1918), m. Hilda Margaret LLOYD 1933, d. 1978 Dandenong aged 71
2. Alan Francis 1913 Melb South, m. Elsie Irene BROWNING 1940 [known as Rene], d. 1977 Prahran aged 63
3. Kenneth Alfred 1915 Benalla, m. Lorna UNKNOWN, d. 31 Aug 1995 aged 79
4. Leonard Arthur 1917 Benalla, m. Gwen Louvaine INNES 1941, d. 2 May 2004 aged 86
5. Ronald Douglas 1919 Castlemaine [known as Douglas], m. Laura UNKNOWN
6. Vincent Maxwell 1920 Echuca [known as Maxwell], KIA 1945 Italy

Four sons served in WWII. Youngest son was killed during air operations over Italy in 1945 (he was an airman in the RAAF).

THOMAS FREDERICK VICTOR : Service Number - 56430 : Date of birth - 11 Aug 1907 : Place of birth - KEW VIC : Place of enlistment - MELBOURNE : Next of Kin - THOMAS HILDA

THOMAS KENNETH ALFRED : Service Number - V40334 : Date of birth - 22 Oct 1915 : Place of birth - BENALLA VIC : Place of enlistment - ARMADALE VIC : Next of Kin - THOMAS FREDERICK

THOMAS RONALD DOUGLAS : Service Number - 67903 : Date of birth - 04 Nov 1919 : Place of birth - CASTLEMAINE VIC : Place of enlistment - MELBOURNE : Next of Kin - THOMAS FREDERICK [also as born 11/4/1919, other details same]

THOMAS VINCENT MAXWELL : Service Number - 400944 : Date of birth - 09 Nov 1920 : Place of birth - ECHUCA VIC : Place of enlistment - MELBOURNE : Next of Kin - THOMAS FREDERICK

The Argus, Friday 26 January 1945
Mr and Mrs F. V. Thomas, 779 Dandenong rd, East Malvern, have been notified that their youngest son, Flying-Officer V. Maxwell Thomas, is missing as a result of air operations on January 9. He was pilot of a Mustang detailed to bomb a road bridge north-west of Ravenna, Italy, He did his initial training at Somers, Victoria, and then went to Southern Rhodesia, where he gained his wings. Thence he went to Aden. Later, joining the famous No 3 Squadron, he went across North Africa to Tunisia, Sicily, and Malta. It was the first squadron to enter Italy. Flying Officer Thomas left Australia in February, 1941. Before enlisting he was employed by the Shell Co, and was a member of Malvern Harriers.

*Malvern Harriers was an athletics club.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No._3_Squadron_RAAF

There is a photo accompanying this article, he looked very handsome:
The Argus, Friday 8 June 1945
DEATH OF AIRMAN
Flying-Officer V. Maxwell Thomas, who was reported missing over Alsonine, North Italy, on January 9, is now known to have lost his life. Flying Officer Thomas, who was a member of No. 3 Squadron, was the youngest son of Mr and Mrs F. V. Thomas, Dandenong rd, East Malvern. He trained at Somers, and embarked in Februa y, 1941. Before enlisting he was employed by the Shell Company.

:-(

Yes I would love as much information as possible. I'm keeping upto date with all if it now... I'm hoping to have a good look tonight. I am a store manager for m and s so it's been quite busy at work. Many thanks Emma

I'd say it's definitely Eddy, Cherilyn.

Thanks for the certificate Emma.

Looking at it magnified, I am pretty sure that Margaret May's mother is written as Eliz EDDY. What do you think, MC?

Put together with the fact that her father is shown as a constable makes me think that we do have the right parents for her in Francis and Elizabeth.

Also if you notice, one of the witnesses was Hetty Thomas - if I remember rightly Margaret May had a younger sister named Henrietta? :-D

Let me know when/if you want more about her siblings, I know your head is probably spinning by now!

I think this the outward voyage for the 1908 arrival:

UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960
Name: Mr S O Richardson (definitely A O on image)
Gender: Male
Age: 33
Birth Date: abt 1875
Departure Date: 4 Jun 1908
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Destination Port: Sydney, Australia
Ship Name: Suevic
Shipping Line: White Star Line
Official Number: 113456
Master: John Mathias

Occupation is "Agent".

thanks... again my brain is not working tonight... been a busy day at work... Emma :-)

A possible:

Victoria, Australia, Assisted and Unassisted Passenger Lists, 1839–1923

Name: Arthur Richardson
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875
Age: 33
Arrival Date: 17 Jul 1908
Arrival Port: Melbourne and Sydney, Australia
Departure Port: Liverpool, England
Ship: Trevic
Nationality: British

Emma - Alex would be Alexandrina, I think. It's a female Alex on the list.

Still trying to find out more about Arthur Osmond Richardson's background.

Emma has kindly sent me a scan of his marriage certificate, as previously mentioned his father was Frederick Richardson - Gent. His mother is listed as Ethel Louisa (UnKnown) - how inconsiderate not to know his other's maiden name to help us.

Arthur's residence at time of marriage was Surrey Hills but usual residence is given as Oxford Chamber, Bourke Street, Melbourne. Birthplace Northampton, England.

The witnesses were Hetty Thomas and James Middlecoat Mundell (found on later ERs as variously a traveller and a manager).

So, when did Arthur Osmond come to Australia?

Not sure who Alex Richardson is on the passanger list???? in 1949

(Odd how they'd all aged 2 years by the time they left - I guess family visits can do that). :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D

Looks like they'd stayed a few months as they arrived in April:


UK, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960
Name: Paul E Richardson
Birth Date: abt 1937
Age: 12
Port of Departure: Brisbane, Australia
Arrival Date: 14 Apr 1949
Port of Arrival: Southampton, England
Ports of Voyage: Brisbane [Sydney] [Melbourne] [Colombo]
Ship Name: Esperance Bay
Shipping Line: Aberdeen and Commonwealth Line
Official Number: 151802

with Arthur (73, retired photographer), Alex (49)

(Odd how they'd all aged 2 years by the time they left - I guess family visits can do that).

I wonder if that 1949 trip had been for Colin and Gwen's wedding?


UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960

Name:
Mrs Alex I Richardson
Gender: Female
Age: 50
Birth Date: abt 1899
Departure Date: 29 Sep 1949
Port of Departure: Southampton, England
Destination Port: Adelaide, Australia
Ship Name: Esperance
Shipping Line: Shaw Savill Line
Official Number: 151802

With Arthur O (75, retired) and Master Paul E (14). Their address while in UK had been c/o Bank of Australasia.

I think Cherilyn found an article that mentioned Arthur Lincoln as "elder son of" so Paul Edward clarifies that.

Well done Thelma.

Paul - hm think he is a new one...thanks, Thelma!

Possible death in SA (recently):
Advertiser
RICHARDSON Paul Edward (Tall) 2010

He was 75 so it fits.

A notice was also placed in the Melbourne newspaper (The Age).

It is listed at Ryerson Index so you can request a lookup.

Another voyage on FMP in 1949
RICHARDSON Alex I 1899 F 1949 Southampton Australia Adelaide
RICHARDSON Arthur O 1876 M 1949 Southampton Australia Adelaide
RICHARDSON Paul E 1935 M 1949 Southampton Australia Adelaide

Well, if he's anything like mine ..........

I've taken to saving images on cloud storage e.g. Google Drive so I can access them anywhere. I used to save them on desktop pc and then found I was away and took the lappy I couldn't get them .